Re: [DNG] A problem with a license

that we received special permission to redistribute the software in Devuan under different terms. Let's try, hopefully they are reasonable people and will prefer having their software more widely circulated and used. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 02:48:31 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >>> 'It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some >>> proprietary firmware that cannot legally

Re: [DNG] [solved] Re: USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 12:33:55 +0300 Lars Noodén <lars.noo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/05/2017 12:17 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote: > [snip] > >> There are no Ethernet controllers in the list. See if unplugging and >> re-plugging it produces log messages, and if i

Re: [DNG] USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 11:47:28 +0300 Lars Noodén <lars.noo...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 07/05/2017 11:36 AM, Alessandro Selli wrote: >> On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 10:57:51 +0300 >> Lars Noodén <lars.noo...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I had been using Ethernet ove

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Wed, 5 Jul 2017 at 01:16:46 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> It was and it stayed centered there, no matter how much you insist in >> stating the opposite. I already provided proof of it. > >

Re: [DNG] USB ethernet device disappeared on Ascii

t back to using > Ethernet. What should I be looking at? First thing is verifying that the USB adapter is recognized. You can do that running lsusb. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys:

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 23:55:30 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > > It is relevant in proving you cannot do that and *lawfully* distribute > > the module, which is what I have kept saying. > &

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

On 05/07/2017 at 03:40, Nate Bargmann wrote: > * On 2017 04 Jul 18:59 -0500, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Nate Bargmann (n...@n0nb.us): >> >>> * On 2017 04 Jul 13:27 -0500, Evilham wrote: >>> >>> Well, it still doesn't read mail. >>> >>> Or does it? >> >> Well, it _does_ now include a shell

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On 05/07/2017 at 01:52, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > [b43 firmware BLOB] > >> It goes there *after* is was extracted out of the proprietary driver. > > I'm of course aware of that -- but that's irrelevant to wh

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 15:33:57 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> You are still failing the easiest way to demonstrate your point: > > Non-sequitur argument noted in passing. You fai

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 14:41:28 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 13:06:41 -0700 >> Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: >> >> > Your upthr

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 09:08:11 -0500 dev wrote: > Sounds like a "won't fix", too: > > "So, yeah, I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here." >- Poettering > > Not sure what's more troubling here[1]; the lack of concern, the > digression from POSIX, or the

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

t Parent SOA Serial Number Format appears valid SOA Refresh Value is within the recommended range SOA Retry Value is within the recommended range SOA Minimum TTL Value is within allowed values No Open Recursive Name Server Detected No Open Zone Transfer

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 14:12:09 +0200 Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: [...] > They are advanced, mostly SAS and FC controllers, maybe some iSCSI > device too. Mostly Enterprise hardware, not consumer-PC. I did a quick search, all (or at least most) devices

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 12:44:34 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 01:08:24PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> Right, which brings up the issue that you cannot produce a distibution >> without an initram

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 at 13:22:47 +0200 Joachim Fahrner <j...@fahrner.name> wrote: > Am 2017-07-04 12:46, schrieb Alessandro Selli: >> I still think it's a bug that systemd runs a process as root when >> adduser is >> configured to prevent creation of a user with a giv

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 11:41:05 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 12:18:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > didn't involve a right > > > reserved under copyright in the first place, > >

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

I still think it's a bug that systemd runs a process as root when adduser is configured to prevent creation of a user with a given name but such a user does exist. systemd ought to default to "nobody" were there issues determining what user a process should be run as. -- Alessandro

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 at 17:51:48 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some >> proprietary firmware that cannot legally be embedded in

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 01:03:13 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 00:42:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20170703004252.748a9c7f@ayu>: > >> Il giorno Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:11 +0200 >> Didier Kryn ha scritto: >> >>> Le 28/06/2017 à 15:40,

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Mon, 3 Jul at 2017 01:03:13 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 00:42:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20170703004252.748a9c7f@ayu>: > >> Il giorno Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:11 +0200 >> Didier Kryn ha scritto: >> >>> Le 28/06/2017 à 15:40,

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Il giorno Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:11 +0200 Didier Kryn ha scritto: > Le 28/06/2017 à 15:40, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > > And today you should always encrypt your discs. > > I don't see any reason to encrypt /usr. You might like to encrypt > /etc because it contains user

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 at 08:09:21 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Stephan Seitz (stse+dev...@fsing.rootsland.net): > > > That the kernel can’t find the root filesystem if it is encrypted? > > And the kernel lacks the capability to ask you for the password. > > If you're

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 at 22:57:16 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting John Morris (jmor...@beau.org): > >> Nope, that negates one of the principle reasons to use an initramfs in >> the first place. You assume the stock kernel can see the drive where >> you intend to put this new

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 at 23:05:08 + Bruce Perens wrote: > It is the fact that the two actions are connected that makes it a breach. > There are very many actions that are legal in isolation, but not when one > is carried out as a consequence of another. The most common

Re: [DNG] Error updating ascii today

Il giorno Sat, 1 Jul 2017 23:35:08 +0100 Vincent Bentley ha scritto: > I updated a 32-bit Devuan Jessie system today (Saturday) to Ascii. After > rebooting I needed to fix a few package dependency problems and I got > the following message when using aptitude to

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 at 16:50:28 -0700 Bruce Perens wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult < > enrico.weig...@gr13.net> wrote: > >> >> By selling, I mean, you'll first have to pay before you get the code. >> But anybody republish it at will

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 at 00:24:59 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/06/2017 à 23:30, Vincent Bentley a écrit : > > Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be > > recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I worked at > > one place that was proud of

[DNG] systemd: good riddance!

Issues just keep piling up: https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3341-1/ Summary systemd-resolved could be made to crash or run programs if it received a specially crafted DNS response. Details An out-of-bounds write was discovered in systemd-resolved when handling specially crafted DNS responses.

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 33, Issue 46

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 at 18:39:26 +0100 (BST) "G.W. Haywood" wrote: > Hi there, > > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, parazyd wrote: > >> heads 0.3 released >> == >> >> Yet another featureful release! > > But what is it? > > (I did three searches, got nothing but

Re: [DNG] heads 0.3 released!

Il giorno Thu, 22 Jun 2017 17:41:34 +0200 "para...@dyne.org" <para...@dyne.org> ha scritto: > heads 0.3 released > == > > Yet another featureful release! Happy to read this, I will try it out. Thank you! -- Alessandro Selli http://aless

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 at 16:15:56 +0200 Radagast <thebr...@openmailbox.org> wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jun 2017 12:53:25 +0200 > Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: > >> they chose it because it was simple, easy to use >> and came with a large number of wal

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

changing the desktop's aesthetics. You do not empower non-technical users by forcing them into a "user experience" they do not like, they are vocally against, imposing them a new, unmodifiable GUI paradigm that disrupts the way they interacted with their desktop until they w

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

ze it, “I’ll just sue you.” "If you can't beat them on the technology/eyecandy, sue them!" -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Il giorno Thu, 22 Jun 2017 01:40:32 +0200 Antony Stone <antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it> ha scritto: > On Wednesday 21 June 2017 at 23:58:26, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > On 21/06/2017 at 18:06, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > > [...] > > > > >

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On 21/06/2017 at 18:06, Bruce Perens wrote: [...] > I do seem to hear a lot of the same sentiment as the pro-code guys in this > discussion. And I know where that goes. We didn't dumb anything down, we > just got people to participate. And everything was better for it. I take you read the

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

Il 21/06/2017 alle 07:20, KatolaZ ha scritto: > On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 11:12:32PM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> I will reiterate my earlier comment. For those who believe that Devuan >> is somehow lacking without GNOME et. al., Debian is a short download >> away. I say that

Re: [DNG] Onscreen keyboard

ce - extensible and scalable virtual keyboard for X [...] kvkbd - Virtual keyboard for KDE [...] xvkbd - software virtual keyboard for X11 -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9

Re: [DNG] trash

On Sun, 28 May 2017 at 09:28:22 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote: > On Sat, 27 May 2017 23:04:13 +0200 > info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > > > Nice if you missed it otherwise annoying. Thunar puts deleted files > > there, at

Re: [DNG] Bash keyboard shortcuts working really ugly

g, and/or with input library keybindings, that is with the .inputrc file. Under X I can replicate your problem when I comment this line in ~/.Xresources: *metaSendsEscape: true Try uncommenting or adding this line, then run: xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources open a new terminal and see if the pr

Re: [DNG] ...

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 at 01:52:04 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=trending > > HND Closing in to the double-digit placement. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 19:01, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:48:31PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > >>> There is really no other reasonable alternative, IMVHO. >> Yes, there is. It's called a good compromise. Then, outside of it, >> you fi

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 16:16, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:48:54PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: >> kato...@freaknet.org writes: >>> Unfortunately we are already paying the consequences of badly-written >>> software implementing oddly-designed solutions to non-existing >>> problems... >>

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 14:46, k...@aspodata.se wrote: [...] > Why srvmgt_daemonize(), use -f and daemon() and you'd be fine in > either camp, end case. This is well *if* the daemon has -f and does daemon(). I know the only programs that do not do it are those that were not intended to be run as

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 16:42, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alessandro: >> On 18/04/2017 at 15:11, k...@aspodata.se wrote: >>> Alessandro Selli: >>> ... >>>> And >>>> what I don't like of Karl Aspo's idea is that it takes any instrument of >>>>

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 15:11, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alessandro Selli: > ... >> And >> what I don't like of Karl Aspo's idea is that it takes any instrument of >> policy checking and enforcing out of the monitor, which ends up not >> being able to monitor anything,

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 12:32, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:21:05PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > >>> And why should a program/daemon care if >>> it has a monitor or not ? >> Why should a car driver care if the traffic light has

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 10:35, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alessandro Selli: >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 at 12:06:44 +0200 (CEST) >> k...@aspodata.se wrote: >>> Enrico Weigelt: >>> ... >>>> Let's just take some example: libsrvmgt with funcs like that: >>&g

Re: [DNG] Manjaro dropping consolekit

logind/19412/45 «I plan a elogind default on openrc instead of consolekit. This should give working wayland sessions on non systemd.» Sounds good, even if I don't know about elogind. -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

eel spinning, or perhaps an excuse for profit-driven complexification. I fully agree. Than you for having put down such a good manifesto. -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave PGP/GPG key: B7FD89FD _

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 at 12:06:44 +0200 (CEST) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Enrico Weigelt: > ... > > Let's just take some example: libsrvmgt with funcs like that: > > > > * srvmgt_daemonize() > > --> detach from controlling terminal, etc > > Why do any monitor program need to know if the

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Il 13/04/2017 16:55, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> This is what can be logically inferred from what you wrote. > No. Yep. > I'm sorry this conversation was not fruitful, which as mentioned is why I have > disengag

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 at 14:18:34 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> As sudo can be made to operate either requiring the user to type his >> own password or no password, stating (now) that just &quo

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Il 12/04/2017 03:32, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> I argued against the assertion by Rick Moen that sudo constitutes "a >> proxy for the root password"... > I did not so state. > > I character

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 12:55:37 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:34:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > One cannot avoid using at least once his own password at the start of > > the session, so this passwor

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 07:13:36 +0100 Klaus Ethgen <klaus+d...@ethgen.ch> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Mo den 10. Apr 2017 um 22:09 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password.

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

er password. Of course doing nothing is the most secure option, but if you have a PC I suppose you have it for a purpose, to run it and take advantage of it's capabilities. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Il giorno Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:17:46 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > > IMO, using root's password in those same cases is the worst possible > > password use case. One thing is your non-pr

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On 10/04/2017 at 23:43, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. >> Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more >> times you type i

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

and fast to type password. IMO the best solution is having sudo run scripts that mount unknown devices (i.e., not configured in /etc/fstab) on directories under /mnt, and maybe create them if needed. -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dh

Re: [DNG] anybody going to libreplanet?

a good time, with good people. I'm not sure I'll be able > to make it - I live in the area, but I'm currently in AZ for an extended > period, helping my 96-year-old Dad settle into a new house - not sure if > I'll be back in time. > > Hopefully someone from the Devuan team will be ther

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

nually setting agetty to /sbin yields a working console base for systemd on openwrt. Now im stuck on the " login: " as systemdlogin does not compile correctly.» -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys:

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

orgotten what freedom of choice is» Exactly for that reason, because we stand for freedom of choice, they used to and they have now have abandoned that noble cause to side with the majority (of wrongdoers). -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VO

Re: [DNG] New package

aMule (from ubuntu) > https://git.devuan.org/nioanto/amule > > > you can download from git or > > you can test them by installing from my external repository, hezeh.org > (thank you parazyd) aMule, hat's good to have. Thank you! -- Alessandro Selli <alessandro

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

;> project, demonstrated strongly by the systemd debacle, is what made me >>>> a >>>> former Debian user. >>>> Don Wright >>>> -- >>>> Sponsored by Berserker Express. At BE, we bring things to Goodlife. &g

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Il 09/03/2017 17:21, Alessandro Selli ha scritto: > Il giorno Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:14:56 -0500 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> ha scritto: > >> On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:47:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> Il 08/03/2017 18:33, goli...@dyne.org ha scr

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Il giorno Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:14:56 -0500 Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> ha scritto: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:47:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > Il 08/03/2017 18:33, goli...@dyne.org ha scritto: > > > This is a follow up to this old thread: > > &

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

to still oppose PA in favor of Alsa. Does anyone? Since it's going to be a fight to keep PA at bay, I think we need to argument our decisions against PA in stronger terms than "it was developed by Lennart Poettering", lest we sound just "irrational" and "stubborn" p

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

ut free speech because you have nothing to say.» Edward Snowden Thank you to all those who worked on Heads. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

ironments, Claws Mail, > > AbiWord, Chrome, Firefox, Midori, Pidgin and many more. > > I'll add orca to that list, given there's currently no equivalent for > the GNU/Linux desktop as far as I know. Not to mention Libreoffice. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP S

Re: [DNG] The Internet Wifi Daemon

systemd running on our > routers. How amazing that we will finally have one standard across all > devices . "Thou shalt have no daemon other than systemd!" (Ex.d, 20.3) -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@e

Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

zr at 0pointer.de Thu Jan 26 18:26:22 PST 2012 Ubuntu plans to take over maintainership (more precisely Martin Pitt from Canonical), to maintain it as long as they still need it, and will change the name while doing so. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP

Re: [DNG] Fwd: [kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.0.4 (stable)

Add .travis.yml > > Perry Thompson (1): > Add carpalx keymap > > Thomas Petazzoni (1): > Link against libintl when needed > > Vitezslav Crhonek (1): > Improve consistency of man pages and usage messages. > > Xose Vazquez Perez (1): >

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Thu, 5 Jan 2017 02:26:25 -0800 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> I followed the same logic when I listed 26 alternate public DNS servers to >> choose from. I know it contradicts my own a

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

nerated by resolvconf(8) # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN [alessandro@wkstn03 ~]$ lsb_release -drc Description:Ubuntu 16.10 Release: 16.10 Codename: yakkety [alessandro@wkstn03 ~]$ -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.co

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il 04/01/2017 20:45, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> "Your network stinks. What DNS servers do you want to use? > [amazing list, ending with:] > >> [ ] Pick random ones >> [ ] Pick the geographically closest o

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:34:20 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > I am strongly convinced that we don't want to (and we should not, by > > > any means)

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:24:40 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > I'm kind of envisioning this as part of the initial system setup, so a > > > little

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:26:35 +0100 Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> ha scritto: > > On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > > [ ] Pick random ones > > [ ] Pick the geographically closest ones > > [ ] Show a list of public DNS servers to choose f

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 06:25:51 -0500 Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com>: > > > Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500 > > Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> ha scritto: > > > >>

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500 Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com>: > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen > > <a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote: > > > >>

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen <a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote: > Alessandro Selli writes: >> This still doesn't explain why they decided to force-feed Google's DNS >> server on the user without prompting the poor fellow any possible choice. > &

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On 03/01/2017 at 22:38, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Alessandro Selli writes: >> Why are Debian >> folks so eager at increasing Google's traffic and "free" "services"? > > Just a guess: Because so many of the resolvers at random hotels suck, > and that suc

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On 03/01/2017 at 21:47, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >> What's wrong with 8.8.8.8? > Nothing at all if you want it. When asked for namservice IPs, just enter > '8.8.8.8' and '8.8.4.4'. Done. > > Jaromir's question amounted to 'If the installing sysadmin

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On 03/01/2017 at 18:20, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:06:53 +0100 > Jaromil wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2017, Jaromil wrote: >> >>> what a pity Debian has switched to Google's DNS by default. >> for the record and the sake of historical correctness: >> >>

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686.emi 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686.emi (make sure 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686.emi is the right kernel version string). -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 __

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

Il giorno Thu, 15 Dec 2016 12:14:06 -0300 Emiliano Marini <emilianomarin...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Tried the 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae kernel (enabling PAE/NX in VirtualBox > config) with same results. Did you try the debug option? > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:12 PM, A

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

Il giorno Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:51:05 -0300 Emiliano Marini <emilianomarin...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > How could I check the logs if the kernel isn't loading? There is any way to > see GRUB logs besides removing the "quiet" option? Try adding the debug option. --

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

which, I'd set this as a default GRUB setting. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

Il giorno Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:45:39 -0300 Emiliano Marini <emilianomarin...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > What could possibly be wrong with the new kernel? Please, check the logs of the failed boot. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net C

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

, you're only stating that now. > and once again, the same > guy who brought patents into the mix asserted that I had falsely > diagnosed the OP's problem. You surely did: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20161206.220637.24cd7edb.en.html |Author: Robert Storey |Date: 2016-12-0

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 11:28:13 -0500 Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:27:33 +0100 > Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: > > > Il giorno Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:12:34 -0300 > > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Il giorno Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:12:34 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> ha scritto: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 14:30:58 +0100 > Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: > > > Devuan was born with the intention of removing the ar

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

pplicant and wpa_gui/wicd in the install media, another thing is the lack of proprietary drivers. Nowhere in Robert Storey's email did I read any mention of specific hardware support missing due to the lack of proprietary drivers. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dha

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

ssphrase >> wpa_supplicant.conf > > 7) By hook or by crook, get a DHCP lease > a) If necessary, put DHCP server on this computer > > 8) Verify lookup of devuan.org > a) If not, run some intelligent diagnostic software That'd be a nice piece of software to have. I'd like

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

Il giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 17:28:03 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir.akpi...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On 1 December 2016 at 17:21, Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> > wrote: > > > Hello people, > > I'm writing on this ML about this issue I'

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

On giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 16:58:30 + Chris Kalin wrote: > Cacti isn’t dead – 0.8.8g came out in Feb 2016 and 0.8.8h came out in May. Well, it's not dead, but it is in intensive care: http://www.cacti.net/roadmap.php This roadmap is out of date. We are

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

Il giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 16:50:22 +0100 Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> ha scritto: > On giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:28:03 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar > <aldemir.akpi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Alessandro, > > I know this is not very helpful, but,

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

On giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:28:03 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > Hi Alessandro, > I know this is not very helpful, but, cacti is virtually a dead project > (still no 0.9 for about 10 years and still waiting). I suggest using > librenms which is much better and

[DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

Hello people, I'm writing on this ML about this issue I've had with cacti before I'll be able to edit https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages (if ever :-). The version of Cacti that ships with Jessie (0.8.8b) just wouldn't talk (or listen) to the SNMP agent. There is nothing wrong with

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