Re: [DNG] Stupid boot question

2022-09-01 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 1 Sep 2022 08:48:02 -0400 Curtis Maurand wrote: > Hello, > This question has probably been answered many times before. I'm looking > for the boot logs on my system.  During the boot process I see all sorts > of messages go by, but I'm seeing a list of "whitelisted" ip addresses > and

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-31 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 31 Jul 2022 13:29:18 +0100 Peter Duffy wrote: > On Sat, 2022-07-30 at 06:07 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > > https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ > > > > > > I think t

Re: [DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-30 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 30 Jul 2022 06:07:53 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 2022-07-29 at 14:27 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ > > > > I think the author knows nothing about devuan and spreads FUD > > > > I

[DNG] article about devuan

2022-07-29 Thread tito via Dng
https://linuxiac.com/best-systemd-free-linux-distributions/ I think the author knows nothing about devuan and spreads FUD Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] missing trick for upgrading to daedalus

2022-07-12 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 21:30:01 -0400 tempforever wrote: > crich...@blackfoot.net wrote: > > missing trick for upgrading to daedalus I’m setting up a new box which > > I installed Chimaera.  I also > > > > wanted to get that upgraded to Daedalus.  Following the regular update > > instructions, > >

Re: [DNG] do I need drivers for

2022-06-21 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 17:10:51 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Bought a mobo that said that there was room for 8 SATA ports and 2 M2 drives. > > It took looking in the fine print to find that when using M2 drives > that one loses an > SATA port for each M2 drive. > > So in a

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

2022-06-02 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 17:16:05 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jun 1, 2022 at 4:57 PM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 16:34:21 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > When the pa

Re: [DNG] install on a raid 1 array

2022-06-01 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 1 Jun 2022 16:34:21 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > When the parts get here I'm going to be installing Devuan testing on > the system. > > I have not ever installed like this so first the configuration. > > Ryzen 7 3800X > Asus TUF Gaming X570-Pro mobo > 64 GB ram >

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

2022-05-31 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 31 May 2022 05:27:37 -0500 o1bigtenor wrote: > On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 1:00 AM tito via Dng wrote: > > > > On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > I am investing

Re: [DNG] New build + extras

2022-05-31 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 30 May 2022 17:03:56 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > I am investing in a new system. > (Ryzen 7 5800X + Ryzen 570 gpu) > > The old system has a raid 10 array that I would like to put into the new > system. > > The new system is going to add 2 M2 drives that I want to

Re: [DNG] help ath3k athrBT firmware

2022-05-15 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 15 May 2022 10:27:00 +0200 (CEST) Jessie Pucci via Dng wrote: > Hello, > I've run into an issue upgrading from beowulf into chimaera. > regarding firmware.dmesg is outputting > usb 6-1 firmware: failed to load ar3k/AthrBT_01102.dfu (-2) > ... failed with error -2 > then usbcore

Re: [DNG] resolv.conf

2022-05-09 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 09 May 2022 11:52:14 +0100 Rowland Penny via Dng wrote: > On Mon, 2022-05-09 at 12:31 +0200, al3xu5 via Dng wrote: > > Mon, 9 May 2022 04:49:35 -0400 - Steve Litt < > > sl...@troubleshooters.com>: > > > > > Antony Stone said on Sun, 8 May 2022 16:28:38 +0200 > > > > > > > On Sunday 08

Re: [DNG] no access to router administation page

2022-04-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 23 Apr 2022 18:09:31 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > I find that I now cannot access my router administration page. The > router provides access to internet, but when I run 192.168.1.254 (this > IS the correct address), the connection times out. This happens both > with Chromium and

Re: [DNG] information request

2022-04-20 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 20 Apr 2022 06:58:35 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 6:37 AM Antony Stone > wrote: > > > > On Wednesday 20 April 2022 at 13:17:48, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > In the process of upgrading my system I now am stuck at a point where >

Re: [DNG] Wifi problem - dhclient times out with no reply - SOLVED

2022-03-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 22 Mar 2022 16:06:49 -0700 Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 12:38:05AM -1000, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > > In any case, by enabling the 5GHz radio with AC mode, > > WPA2-PSK and 80MHz signal width my BCM43228 associated with > > the router and received an IP

Re: [DNG] Why do I need xdg-desktop portal?

2022-03-12 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 11:06:44 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > I don't use flatpak, so yesterday I removed xdg-desktop-portal from a machine > where it was causing df to err trying to access a fuse mount. I wandered how > came xdg-desktop-portal was installed. > > Today I

Re: [DNG] Web md RAID monitoring [was: Re: Fake RAID]

2022-03-12 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 10:32:53 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 12/03/2022 à 02:05, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng a écrit : > > On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 09:33:01 +1100 > > Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > > >> On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:04:45 +0100 > >> Didier Kryn wrote: > >>>     Its almost done. I have added a few

Re: [DNG] NetworkManager Applet 1.24.0 on daedalus quite broken with multiple interfaces

2022-03-11 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 11 Mar 2022 11:51:59 +0200 Lars Noodén via Dng wrote: > It appears that the NetworkManager Applet 1.24.0 built into XFCE4 on > daedalus is quite broken and can't route properly across multiple > interfaces. Indeed the icon only shows a single interface even if > "route -n" shows the

Re: [DNG] Fake RAID

2022-03-09 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 19:18:13 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 09/03/2022 à 17:12, d...@d404.nl a écrit : > > On 09-03-2022 16:55, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 09, 2022 at 02:42:07PM +0100, aitor wrote: > >> > >>> Did you read the following guide? > >>> > >>>

Re: [DNG] deb.devuan.org not reachable

2022-02-26 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 26 Feb 2022 13:49:50 +0100 Radisson via Dng wrote: > > > Am 24.02.22 um 18:35 schrieb goli...@devuan.org: > > On 2022-02-24 10:08, Radisson via Dng wrote: > >> Hi List, > >> i tried to update daedalus but i have problems > >> to reach deb.devuan.org 101 network is unreachable. > >> >

Re: [DNG] usb keyboard detection in initramfs

2022-02-18 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 18 Feb 2022 14:57:11 -0700 Gregory Nowak via Dng wrote: > Hello everyone. > > I have a raspberry pi 3b arm64 sd card which I recently upgraded in > stages from jessie to chimaera. This card has the second partition > encrypted, so I need an initramfs to decrypt it. > > The problem is

Re: [DNG] What is your take on finit?

2022-02-01 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 1 Feb 2022 09:50:31 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 31/01/2022 à 19:16, Steve Litt a écrit : > >>     Writing a self-daemonizing daemon in C was a routine when I was > >> still active, though I understand it could be more difficult in shell. > > But more difficult in Python. I try to stay

Re: [DNG] What is your take on finit?

2022-01-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 08:59:24 +0100 Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Hi! > > I saw this coming into Debian Sid, so should be available in Devuan > Ceres as well: > > https://troglobit.com/projects/finit/ > > Sounds interesting, I'd say. > > Best, Hi, what scares me is; originally reverse

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 26 Jan 2022 00:02:45 +0200 Boian Bonev wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > ... > > > > apt works for me it is just the dialog to modify, add or delete > > > > repositories in synaptic > > > > that doesn't work as some template is missing: > > > > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:20:18 -0500 tempforever wrote: > tito via Dng wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900 > > Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > > > >> Hi Tito, > >> > >> tito via Dng writes: > >> > >>> Hi, > >

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 11:06:22 +0100 Michael Neuffer via Dng wrote: > > > On 1/25/22 10:27, Didier Kryn wrote: > > Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : > >> Hi Tito, > >> > >> tito via Dng writes: > [...] > >> BTW, I do

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 10:27:52 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 25/01/2022 à 09:49, Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng a écrit : > > Hi Tito, > > > > tito via Dng writes: > > > >> Hi, > >> while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package

Re: [DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 25 Jan 2022 17:49:49 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Tito, > > tito via Dng writes: > > > Hi, > > while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package > > manager i get: > > > > synaptic-pkexec > > ERRO

[DNG] Bug in synaptic package manager?

2022-01-24 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, while trying to open the Settings>Repositories menu in Synaptic package manager i get: synaptic-pkexec ERROR:root:Cannot import UbuntuDrivers: No module named 'UbuntuDrivers' Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/bin/software-properties-gtk", line 101, in app =

Re: [DNG] kernel-update: initramfs fails to find swap

2022-01-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 21 Jan 2022 15:45:46 +0100 Florian Zieboll via Dng wrote: > > Hallo list, > > after the latest kernel-update (chimaera, from 5.10.0-10-amd64 to > 5.10.0-11-amd64), my desktop's initramfs no longer finds the swap > (suspend/resume) partition. > > Running 'update-initramfs -u' returns

Re: [DNG] A number of question about version 4.0

2022-01-16 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 13 Jan 2022 20:00:51 -0500 Larry Linder via Dng wrote: Hi, > I have loaded and it connects up to our network without a problem. > > 1. I would like to change desktops as default is too dark to be read. Just change the default system theme to something lighter. > 2. I need to add

Re: [DNG] merged /usr breakage

2022-01-08 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 15:56:19 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 07/01/2022 à 23:27, Hendrik Boom a écrit : > >>     Install can be user-configurable, this is easy, but the package > >> provides > >> the way to uninstall and, for the uninstall to work, the install must be > >> hardcoded because the

Re: [DNG] more printer questions

2022-01-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 14:04:23 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Mon, Jan 3, 2022 at 10:25 AM Maurice McCarthy via Dng > wrote: > > > > No, no. It is the other way around. A driverless printer means you do > > _not _need any driver or other software to print. > > Seems to take a very long time

Re: [DNG] busybox init

2022-01-03 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 3 Jan 2022 18:45:28 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > I have used busybox init for a while. It differs from sysvinit > by not having runlevels, except perhaps on and off. > > Busybox repo is at: git://busybox.net/busybox.git > Website at: https://busybox.net/ > Comment re. systemd:

Re: [DNG] nvidia-persistenced can't be installed

2021-12-30 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 30 Dec 2021 15:26:51 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > When I try to do an upgrade, I'm told nvidia-persistenced is not configured. > When I reinstall it I get: > > ... > Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. > Setting up nvidia-persistenced (460.32.03-1) ... >

Re: [DNG] Help: Cron daily didn't run

2021-12-21 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 21 Dec 2021 13:53:48 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > Yesterday I upgraded and then rebooted. > > how come cron daily didn't run? I have an entry in crontab saying: > > 47 4 * * 7 root test -x /usr/sbin/anacron || ( cd / && run-parts > --report

Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 23:01:21 +0100 tito via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 15:30:34 -0500 > Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 08:03:25PM +0100, Harald Arnesen wrote: > > > Hendrik Boom [18/12/2021 19.22]: > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec

Re: [DNG] new firefox-esr buggy?

2021-12-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 15:30:34 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Dec 18, 2021 at 08:03:25PM +0100, Harald Arnesen wrote: > > Hendrik Boom [18/12/2021 19.22]: > > > > > On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 10:11:11PM +0100, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > > Another thing, try to turn off "smooth

Re: [DNG] [dng@lists.dyne.org: Re: new firefox-esr buggy?] [Work-Around]

2021-12-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 19 Dec 2021 10:39:59 -0500 Haines Brown wrote: > I apologize for the slowness of my reply to all the valuable > suggestions. I've worked around the display problem, but thought best > to address some of the suggestions because it is only a work around, > not a fix. > > I gather from

Re: [DNG] Conversion from BullsEye to Devuan Fails

2021-12-10 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 08:05:35 -0600 Kent West via Dng wrote: > Hi! > > Following the instructions at > https://www.devuan.org/os/documentation/install-guides/chimaera/bullseye-to-chimaera > > I've tried it on two VirtualBox VMs (one two different Debian host boxes - > a Dell desktop and a Dell

Re: [DNG] Automating the distro?

2021-12-08 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 7 Dec 2021 16:16:32 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I wonder if building Devuan can be further automated. Void Linux has > some super-duper software processes to do much of this automatically. > It works right off of a git server (unfortunately, github). If I'm not > mistaken it

Re: [DNG] networking thinking

2021-11-28 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 28 Nov 2021 07:20:14 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > In anticipation of a fiber optical connection (moving from a wireless) I > have been planning out and purchasing some bits of hardware. Am finding > that networking is, at least sure seems to be, another black hole for

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-28 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 20:09:33 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-11-27 18:27, tito via Dng wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 15:39:53 -0600 > > goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > > >> On 2021-11-27 15:00, Mark Rousell wrote: > >> > On 25/11/2021 22:57, Ste

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 27 Nov 2021 15:39:53 -0600 goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2021-11-27 15:00, Mark Rousell wrote: > > On 25/11/2021 22:57, Steve Litt wrote: > >> Like I said in 2014, > >> they won't quit until the cat command requires systemd. > > > > They won't stop until SystemD is in the kernel, such

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-26 Thread tito via Dng
ir and enhance your router Ciao, Tito > > On 11/22/21 7:08 AM, tito via Dng wrote: > > On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 04:41:23 -0500 > > Steve Litt wrote: > > > >> steph.tougard said on Sun, 21 Nov 2021 04:19:36 + > >> > >> > >>>

Re: [DNG] Devuan 4.0 on Sophos firewall hardware

2021-11-26 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 26 Nov 2021 13:24:26 + Mike Tubby wrote: > Just in case anyone is interested, I have had good success at installing > Devuan 4.0 on to second hand Sophos firewall hardware (XG115 and XG125, > Rev 3) to make light-weight firewalls and network appliances. Hi, I have it running on a

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-22 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 22 Nov 2021 04:41:23 -0500 Steve Litt wrote: > steph.tougard said on Sun, 21 Nov 2021 04:19:36 + > > > >My Devuan is behind an OpenBSD. The OpenBSD has no software installed, > >it's a pure system as release by the OpenBSD team, the code base is > >small, strongly audited by a very

Re: [DNG] system administration of non-systemd distros and releases

2021-11-20 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 21 Nov 2021 04:19:36 + "steph.tougard via Dng" wrote: > The right answer is to do whatever the customer asks, as stupid as it seems. > > If the customer was intelligent, he would not even ask a GNU/Linux system in > the first place, it's bloated by nature, kitrooted by default and

Re: [DNG] Simple-netaid 1-0 released

2021-11-20 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 20 Nov 2021 12:47:24 +0100 aitor wrote: > Hi all, > > I've just uploaded the packages of simple-netaid (libnetaid + snetaid + > simple-netaid-cdk) to the repository > of gnuinos chimaera. If you want to install them in devuan, first you'll need > to install the gnupg key of gnuinos: >

Re: [DNG] kernels (was Re: Devuan with usr merge?)

2021-11-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 13 Nov 2021 22:20:32 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Steve Litt: > > k...@aspodata.se said on Sat, 13 Nov 2021 12:42:51 +0100 (CET) > > >Steve Litt: > ... > > >> Which brings up another beef I have: Why don't they build Ext4 and > > >> maybe a couple other mainstream filesystems

Re: [DNG] Some RAID1's inaccessible after upgrade to beowulf from ascii

2021-11-11 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 10 Nov 2021 18:37:24 -0500 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Nov 09, 2021 at 02:56:59PM -0500, Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > > I upgraded my server to beowulf. > > > > After rebooting, all home directories except root's are no longer > > accessible. > > > > They are all on an LVM on

Re: [DNG] Some RAID1's inaccessible after upgrade to beowulf from ascii

2021-11-09 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 14:56:59 -0500 Hendrik Boom via Dng wrote: > I upgraded my server to beowulf. > > After rebooting, all home directories except root's are no longer > accessible. > > They are all on an LVM on software RAID. > > The problem seems to be that two of my three RAID1 systems are

Re: [DNG] Devuan with usr merge?

2021-11-08 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 8 Nov 2021 13:50:25 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 06/11/2021 à 03:03, Steve Litt a écrit : > > Personally, I want a directory, guaranteed not to be a mount point, > > where the statically compiled binaries necessary to bring up the > > system, things like mount and ln and vi and fsck,

Re: [DNG] Clicking website wasRe: Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:28:54 +1100 terryc wrote: > On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 17:49:17 +0200 > tito via Dng wrote: > > > Everything works as expected and seems to be > > faster (placebo effect?) in the xfce desktop. > > The only little problem is a clicking noise > >

Re: [DNG] Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-24 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, upgraded my desktop/workstation from beowulf to chimaera. It is a rather complex setup with several raid arrays (I like them and it is a good training for using them in work setups). Upgrade went smoothly but with several iterations of apt upgrade / apt dist-upgrade. I was surprised by seeing

Re: [DNG] Announcing Devuan 4.0: Chimaera!

2021-10-14 Thread tito via Dng
This is good news!!! Thanks to all! Ciao, Tito On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 11:00:33 -0400 Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > Dear Friends and Software Freedom Lovers, > > Devuan Developers are pleased to announce the release of Devuan Chimaera > 4.0 as the project's newest stable release. This is the result

[DNG] Debian to Devuan migration script

2021-10-09 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, at https://git.devuan.org/farmatito/migration you can find the latest and greatest Debian to Devuan migration script supporting Bullseye to Chimaera conversion. Supported DE’s: GNOME/GNOME FLASHBACK LXDE LXQT XFCE KDE MATE CINNAMON also SERVER migration is possible

Re: [DNG] Git learning -- Was: devuan gitea broken?

2021-09-25 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 15:53:48 +0200 Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > Yes, but I don't have the time to learn the git-fu at the moment. > > I usually prefer to say "I don't *take* the time", because there is > plenty of time; it's just a series of choices (some of them not being > freely

Re: [DNG] devuan gitea broken?

2021-09-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 25 Sep 2021 08:45:50 +1000 Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 21:39:01 +0200 > tito wrote: > > > On Fri, 24 Sep 2021 09:57:59 +1000 > > Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > > > > This one turned out to be that someone (aka me) had mistakenly > > > raised a blanket

Re: [DNG] devuan gitea broken?

2021-09-24 Thread tito via Dng
I > have another go at dealing with the same problem. > > Ralph. Hi, whatever you did it fixed the web interface. It is speedy now, just loading files in the editor is still a little slow but acceptable. Thanks for your time and effort. Ciao, Tito > On Thu, 23 Sep 2021 21:42:41

Re: [DNG] devuan gitea broken?

2021-09-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 22 Sep 2021 14:54:54 +0200 tito via Dng wrote: > Hi, > is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface? > It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it. > My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected. > > Ciao, > Tito >

[DNG] devuan gitea broken?

2021-09-22 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, is there any problem with devuan's gitea web interface? It loads so slowly that it is impossible to work with it. My connectivity seems ok as all other sites work as expected. Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] Some questions to update the debian to devuan migration script

2021-09-21 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, some questions I hope somebody on the list can answer: 1) is debian-pulseaudio-config-override still needed in chimaera? Found out myself: seems not. 2) are other config-override packages needed (for standard debian DE setups) as I see there are a few in the repos? 3) are these

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:00:51 -0600 Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > On Sun, 2021-09-05 at 12:54 +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm not very fond of apparmor for various reasons: > > > > 1) I experienced unexpected behavior of programs > > silently

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 22:40:23 +1000 wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > 3) if the user opted out create some kind of /dev/null folder (I suspect > > that such > > thing doesn't exist yet) to delete the data in realtime > > Is the data saved into the telemetry folder before being transmitted

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 11:07:59 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:54 AM, tito via Dng > wrote: > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 13:25:58 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Sunday 05 September 2021 at 12:54:01, tito via Dng wrote: > > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + g4sra wrote: > > > > > > How is Apparmor abusive ? > > > > I'm not very fond of apparmor for

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 5 Sep 2021 09:59:09 +0200 "Dr. Nikolaus Klepp via Dng" wrote: > Hi! > > Anno domini 2021 Sun, 5 Sep 09:52:11 +0200 > tito via Dng scripsit: > > Hi, > > while reading the latest edition of the PCLinuxOS Magazine, > > I've found this interesting

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 10:18:15 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On Sunday, September 5th, 2021 at 11:15 AM, tito wrote: > > On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > <--snip--> > > > > Comments and better ideas are welcome. > > > Apparmor > > Hi, > > the

Re: [DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 05 Sep 2021 08:54:14 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > > Comments and better ideas are welcome. > > Apparmor Hi, the cure is worse than the disease ;-) Ciao, Tito ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

[DNG] KUserFeedback

2021-09-05 Thread tito via Dng
Hi, while reading the latest edition of the PCLinuxOS Magazine, I've found this interesting article about KUserFeedback at https://pclosmag.com/html/Issues/202109/page09.html which relevant parts I copy here for ease of discussion: " Recently, there was a debate on the PCLinuxOS forum about KDE

Re: [DNG] License for the DNG created software guide

2021-09-02 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:26:52 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi everyone, > > A discussion on this list about a month ago spawned several documents > about programming best practices, which I have been calling the "DNG > Software Guide", even though it's absolutely not sponsored or even > approved by

Re: [DNG] The audacity of it all...

2021-08-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 20:34:58 -0400 Mason Loring Bliss wrote: > On Wed, Aug 25, 2021 at 07:41:17AM +0200, tito via Dng wrote: > > > with this methods it will be a never ending cat and mouse game > > and you give legitimation to audacity's new policy. > > There

Re: [DNG] The audacity of it all...

2021-08-24 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 24 Aug 2021 22:44:39 -0400 tempforever wrote: > Neat.  Thanks for the info.  I was actually wondering about just that > very thing (how to block a program's network access) when the audacity > topic restarted. Hi, with this methods it will be a never ending cat and mouse game and you

Re: [DNG] a how to question (project(s) related)

2021-08-15 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 09:43:46 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > I'm finding myself occasionally drowning in information resulting in me > trying to improve the connection between what I'm working on AND the > information that I'm collecting. > > An example (followed by some

Re: [DNG] Advice sought on kernel upgrade

2021-08-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 13 Aug 2021 08:37:00 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 08:06:37PM +1000, wirelessduck--- via Dng wrote: > > > > > > > On 13 Aug 2021, at 18:28, Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > terryc said on Fri, 13 Aug 2021 13:55:07 +1000 > > > > > > > > >> > > >> Setting up? As

Re: [DNG] Latest DNG software guide (20210807) now available

2021-08-08 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 7 Aug 2021 16:59:03 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > As you know, the people on the DNG Devuan mailing list are developing > documentation on how to make safe, resilient, maintainable and > efficient software. > > The latest revision of this documentation can be downloaded, as a

Re: [DNG] Only a few packages now still on hold

2021-08-02 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 21:58:47 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 09:54:33PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 01:13:26PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > On Sun, Aug 01, 2021 at 05:33:23PM +0200, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: > > > > On 31/07/2021 22:03,

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-08-01 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 07:56:18 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jul 30, 2021 at 01:49:46PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > Josef Grosch via Dng said on Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:32:05 -0700 > > > > > > >Another suggestion I have is to use the variable and method naming > > >convention that java uses.

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-30 Thread tito via Dng
On Fri, 30 Jul 2021 21:05:18 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi Tito, list, > > tito via Dng writes: > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:16:31 + > > g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > [...snip...] > >> > >> > What am I missing? >

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-29 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 17:16:31 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip->> > > > > > > There are just too many Gigabytes of Drivers required to satisfy > > > > > every corner case, > > > > > You would need to put Drivers and Firmware for every network device > > > > > in existence on the

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-29 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 29 Jul 2021 12:43:00 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > On Thursday, July 29th, 2021 at 6:58 AM, tito via Dng > wrote: > > > On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:26:07 + > > g4sra via Dng dng@lists.dyne.org wrote: > > > <--snip--> > > > This is why Dev

Re: [DNG] Rant: was fresh install of chimaera on an Ultrabook - no touchpad

2021-07-28 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:26:07 + g4sra via Dng wrote: > <--snip--> > This is why Devuan's installer will ask\prompt you to insert additional > installation media such as a USB stick. Hi The user most of the time doesn't even know which driver or firmware blob he needs so this is not a

Re: [DNG] Starting outline for the DNG Safe Programmer Certificate

2021-07-28 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:12:53 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > Here's the info we've collected so far on safe programming: > > == > From Tito: > > Ten Commandments > > 1) use the least amount of code possible > 2) try harder and go

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 13:11:47 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > tito via Dng said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:26:03 +0200 > > > >Ten Commandments > > > > 1) use the least amount of code possible > > 2) try harder and go to point 1 > > 3) if the code doesn't f

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 27 Jul 2021 13:07:01 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > tito via Dng said on Tue, 27 Jul 2021 08:26:03 +0200 > > > >Ten Commandments > > > > 1) use the least amount of code possible > > 2) try harder and go to point 1 > > 3) if the code doesn't fit in

Re: [DNG] Nasty Linux systemd security bug revealed

2021-07-27 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 26 Jul 2021 22:53:02 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hendrik Boom said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 17:21:24 -0400 > > >On Mon, Jul 26, 2021 at 11:48:53AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > >> Andreas Messer said on Mon, 26 Jul 2021 09:38:23 +0200 > >> > >> > >> >My feeling is, that you can not simply

Re: [DNG] Remote power management

2021-07-22 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 22 Jul 2021 10:10:16 +0100 fraser kendall wrote: > Hi, > > This feels like a damnfool question, but I don't seem able to find an > appropriate solution. > > The situation: careless staff leaving desktops logged on, open tabs in > browsers, monitors left on etc.etc. > > First solution:

Re: [DNG] Devuan for WSL

2021-07-15 Thread tito via Dng
On Thu, 15 Jul 2021 13:57:54 -0400 Linux O'Beardly via Dng wrote: > Has anyone attempted and/or had success at creating a WSL distribution from > a Devuan docker image? I started a new gig and am stuck with a Windows > laptop, but they will allow us to run WSL. Any info would be greatly >

Re: [DNG] Refracta have a static IP

2021-07-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 16:41:06 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm trying to make my new Chimera based Refracta have a static IP > address at 192.168.0.199/24, in order that every other computer on the > 192.168.0.0/24 subnet can easily access it, and so I can put it on my > LAN DNS. > >

Re: [DNG] ntp setup

2021-06-19 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:31:23 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Noticed that my new Beowulf install time was not accurate. > > Went looking for a tips page and all I could find was information > relating to using systemd and or its tools to do such. I know there is > a way to do

Re: [DNG] Another request for assistance

2021-06-14 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 14 Jun 2021 17:42:04 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 4:11 PM Tim Wallace > wrote: > > > After you boot with rEFInd, follow the directions for "Reinstalling > > grub-efi on your hard drive" on this page: GrubEFIReinstall - > > Debian Wiki

Re: [DNG] USB mount problem

2021-06-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 12:37:00 -0700 Fred wrote: > On 6/11/21 7:05 AM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 17:37:13 -0700 > > Fred wrote: > > > >> On 6/10/21 1:48 PM, Patrick Bartek via Dng wrote: > >>> On Thu, 10 Jun 2021 08:49:24 -0700 > >>> Fred wrote: > >>> >

Re: [DNG] ..maybe webmin?, was: Cockpit removal might make sense

2021-06-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 13 Jun 2021 19:41:28 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > d...@d404.nl writes: > > > On 08-06-2021 00:46, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 08, 2021 at 12:05:39AM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > >>> ..snip "tech" justification of subversive systemd politics. > >>> > So

Re: [DNG] Hopman and inotify

2021-06-13 Thread tito via Dng
On Sat, 12 Jun 2021 15:35:56 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > I think inotify is the best foundation for a usb plugin/plugout > detector. I used it in my early 2015 proof of concept proving that > Poettering's socket activation was overkill and could be accomplished > much less intrusively

Re: [DNG] exim paniclog

2021-05-31 Thread tito via Dng
On Mon, 31 May 2021 21:43:54 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > On Monday 31 May 2021 at 21:37:30, g4sra via Dng wrote: > > > > Is deleting the paniclog the proper way to stop receiving these > > > e-mails? > > > > No, don't delete it, empty it, this should be the standard practice > > when manually

Re: [DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

2021-05-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 23 May 2021 09:00:43 -0500 o1bigtenor wrote: > On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 8:03 AM tito via Dng > wrote: > > > > On Sun, 23 May 2021 07:53:21 -0500 > > o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Greetings > > > > > > For a

Re: [DNG] attempting to migrate from Buster to Beowulf

2021-05-23 Thread tito via Dng
On Sun, 23 May 2021 07:53:21 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > For a number of reasons I would prefer to migrate (this machine is a > server test bed (where I experiment)). > > Following the 'destrucitons' on: >

[DNG] End of free open source software?

2021-05-09 Thread tito via Dng
Hi to all, today while reading online my selection of international newspapers on the german www. faz.net I've found this little article which made my antennas vibrate, link is:

Re: [DNG] ..are we|Devuan safe from this systemd backdoor malware, taking our kernels from Debian?

2021-05-05 Thread tito via Dng
On Wed, 05 May 2021 19:04:10 +0900 Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng wrote: > Hi Martin, list, > Martin Steigerwald writes: > > > Hi! > > > > goli...@devuan.org - 02.05.21, 22:15:48 CEST: > >> On 2021-05-02 06:08, terryc wrote: > >> > Unfortunately there are systemd libraries installed by > >> >

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