Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Joel Roth
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 04:32:36PM -0500, Neo Futur wrote: *** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't we have unity through diversity? Are we all subject of Mordor's torpor and subjugation? which makes me think some kind of broken ring, or melted ring, could

Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds

2015-02-27 Thread Isaac Dunham
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 06:13:24PM +, KatolaZ wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +, Matthew Melton wrote: [cut] Just to support my point, Debian has a great logo, but this is what is currently happening to the users of Jessie, thanks to the systemd-nonsense:

Re: [Dng] Easy forkability

2015-02-27 Thread Martijn Dekkers
So, i see for protection two ways: technical, like minimalism for easy forking, and community driven development of the project. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Design_by_committee ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [Dng] [OT] Debian problems with Jesse - was simple backgrounds

2015-02-27 Thread Steven W. Scott
Lol! I recently happened to be researching the different soundsystem architectures, after incinerating pulseaudio on my laptop/Wheezy and then having different problems, and found -- https://wiki.debian.org/Sound What struck me of particular interest were the three diagrams of how

Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds

2015-02-27 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 27/02/2015 00:07, Joel Roth a écrit : On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 06:02:16PM -0500, Gravis wrote: http://www.saynotogmos.org/ss/penguins/trio.png ha! it just needs words like Linux: Strut your stuff [?] I thought of photoshopping in a jail out of which they are walking. Both cute

Re: [Dng] plan to install valentine pre-alpha on real hardware.

2015-02-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: Hmmm, you might have to use isohybrid (in the syslinux package) to make the ISO bootable when dd'ed to a USB key. See http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb. Did that. dd'd it again. Now it boots, though, as expected, it still

Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds

2015-02-27 Thread Matthew Melton
Matthew Melton m...@mjmworks.co.uk KatolaZ wrote On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 07:13:38PM +, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] Well, I agree about the necessity of having a logo, but there is no point into having a great brand without anything concrete behind it, IMHO. I believe

Re: [Dng] simple backgrounds

2015-02-27 Thread Gravis
How much should systemd damage the image of GNU/Linux before everybody realise how much of a nonsense it is? the image of linux is /not/ what will cause change. - people will switch when the annoyance of unexpected systemd behavior outweighs the annoyance of getting rid of systemd - developers

Re: [Dng] plan to install valentine pre-alpha on real hardware.

2015-02-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:03:22PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 11:21:03AM -0500, Jude Nelson wrote: Hmmm, you might have to use isohybrid (in the syslinux package) to make the ISO bootable when dd'ed to a USB key. See http://www.turnkeylinux.org/blog/iso2usb. Did

Re: [Dng] three important UI features

2015-02-27 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
On 02/22/2015 05:45 PM, Mark Maxwell wrote: On 22/02/15 20:11, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: Hello, A few questions about the GUI for Devuan... 1) In the default desktop environment for Devuan, will there be an icon or other discoverable item the user can click to see a list of available wifi

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 11

2015-02-27 Thread Ста Деюс
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 13:19:04 + KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org пишет: On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Ста Деюс sthu.d...@openmailbox.org wrote: But, at the first, what is planned to perform to protect «Devuan» from the guys, that got hold of the fantastic project «Debian»? In

Re: [Dng] plan to install valentine pre-alpha on real hardware.

2015-02-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:35:47PM -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 04:30:39PM -0500, william moss wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 02/23/2015 04:24 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: I have a three-or-four year-old laptop on which I am replacingg the

Re: [Dng] btrfs repair works fine, Lennart has no idea what he is talking about - was OT - It may be only one file, but it does point to the bigger problem!

2015-02-27 Thread Peter Maloney
On 02/22/2015 07:28 PM, Jim Murphy wrote: [...] Part of the discussion: btrfs checksumming theoretically allows you to transparently recover after media corruption if filesystem has redundancy (more than one copy of data). Journald checksum will probably detect corruption, but can it repair

Re: [Dng] Combatting revisionist history

2015-02-27 Thread Ста Деюс
В Thu, 26 Feb 2015 07:25:16 + KatolaZ kato...@freaknet.org пишет: I personally think that the essence of that nice post is in the very last quote: Those who don't understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly. I've another story, same way: Whenever people did invent good (here

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Ста Деюс
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 21:28:41 + Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org пишет: https://git.devuan.org/devuan-editors/devuan-art/blob/devuan-alpha/graphic s/init-freedom/if.png I'd prefer any logo that does not use english initials or play on words. Awesome! As it is the planet-wide

Re: [Dng] btrfs repair works fine, Lennart has no idea what he is talking about - was OT - It may be only one file, but it does point to the bigger problem!

2015-02-27 Thread T.J. Duchene
Quite frankly, I would not overly concern myself with Lennart's Poettering's opinion. He has been quoted: Open Source community is full of assholes, and I probably more than most others am one of their most favourite targets. That's probably true in many ways. I've seen plenty of them,

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI

2015-02-27 Thread Ста Деюс
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 23:39:10 + Noel Torres env...@rolamasao.org пишет: I do not find it swear nor violent. I find way more violent to request us (not me, DWN is made by a growig group of people) to stop using words that are not swear just because they incomodate a single person, and that

Re: [Dng] Dng Digest, Vol 5, Issue 11

2015-02-27 Thread Ста Деюс
В Wed, 25 Feb 2015 09:15:24 +0100 Anthony Scemama scem...@gmx.com пишет: I found this image on the web: http://tux.crystalxp.net/png/kros753-kiss-the-demon-2286.png ​ It's a good mix between KISS and Linux! If you like it, I can ask the guys from CrystalXP.net if it can be used for

Re: [Dng] Easy forkability

2015-02-27 Thread Ста Деюс
В Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:56:28 -0500 Hendrik Boom hend...@topoi.pooq.com пишет: Well the answer is simple: if such an unlikely invasion would happen, we will always have the opportunity to fork Devuan, for the good of its users :) This suggests that one of the goals of Devuan should be

Re: [Dng] Devuan Weekly News XI

2015-02-27 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 07:22:26PM +0300, Jack L. Frost wrote: Could you please cease «kickass» here -- for people read your news also, but such rudness leaves them nothing but to shrink from your writing. Thanks again for the news though. “kickass” is not even a swear word. I think

[Dng] [OT] Debian problems with Jesse - was simple backgrounds

2015-02-27 Thread T.J. Duchene
On Fri, 2015-02-27 at 18:13 +, KatolaZ wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 01:56:56PM +, Matthew Melton wrote: [cut] Just to support my point, Debian has a great logo, but this is what is currently happening to the users of Jessie, thanks to the systemd-nonsense:

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Neo Futur
*** Why is everybody looking for the One Ring to Rule Them All? Can't we have unity through diversity? Are we all subject of Mordor's torpor and subjugation? which makes me think some kind of broken ring, or melted ring, could be an idea for the devuan or rootslinux logo . . . breaking free

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote: And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus makes much more sense. Why? 'Cos us humans and out need for recognizable patterns can't quite classify it :) ___ Dng

Re: [Dng] Init Freedom badges

2015-02-27 Thread Gravis
trying to look different for the sake of looking different is stupid. --Gravis On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 5:11 PM, Nuno Magalhães nunomagalh...@eu.ipp.pt wrote: On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com wrote: And why penguins? I think in terms of non-conformity, the platypus