[DNG] (forw) Re: [skeptic] MINIX: ?Intel's hidden in-chip operating system

2017-11-08 Thread Rick Moen
Vaughan-Nichols's article is at http://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/ - Forwarded message from Rick Moen - Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 17:19:35 -0800 From: Rick Moen To: skep...@linuxmafia.com Subject: Re:

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 19:11:13 +, KatolaZ wrote in message <20171108191113.gv4...@katolaz.homeunix.net>: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:01:13PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia > wrote: > > MX Linux is a desktop distribution based on Debian's Stable branch. > > The distribution ships with the Xfce

[DNG] Planned manintainance on dev1galaxy.org -- Thu. 9th Nov. 2017 -- 21:00 (UTC) - 23:00 (UTC)

2017-11-08 Thread KatolaZ
Dear Dev1rs, this email is to announce that the Devuan web forum on dev1galaxy.org will be unreachable due to planned manintainance in the following time slot: Thu. 9th Nov. 2017 -- 21:00 (UTC) - 23:00 (UTC) The downtime is part of the undergoing consolidation plan of the Devuan

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 02:01:13PM -0500, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > MX Linux is a desktop distribution based on Debian's Stable branch. The > distribution ships with the Xfce desktop environment and swaps out the > systemd init software provided by Debian for the SysV init implementation. >

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread Ismael L. Donis Garcia
MX Linux is a desktop distribution based on Debian's Stable branch. The distribution ships with the Xfce desktop environment and swaps out the systemd init software provided by Debian for the SysV init implementation. My operating system is not Debian, it's Devuan jessie. But I wanted to test

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Nov 08, 2017 at 07:22:51PM +0100, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:04:57 -0800, Rick wrote in message > <20171108170457.gk1...@linuxmafia.com>: > > > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > > > > > I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that >

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 8 Nov 2017 09:04:57 -0800, Rick wrote in message <20171108170457.gk1...@linuxmafia.com>: > Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > > > I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that > > quickly becomes a bore when you need to install security upgrades > >

Re: [DNG] OT: MX-Linux 17 Beta1

2017-11-08 Thread fsmithred
On 11/07/2017 03:29 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > Has anyone in the community attempted to update an MX-Linux 17 beta1 image > from the devuan ascii repositories? > > I want to download an image, but first I wanted to know if someone has > already done this test, since I have very small

Re: [DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Olaf Meeuwissen (paddy-h...@member.fsf.org): > I used to mount /usr read-only on my server machines but that quickly > becomes a bore when you need to install security upgrades every so > often. Suggestion: Make remounting an automatic part of package operations. /etc/apt/apt.conf:

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-08 Thread zap
> John Hughes' sole function on DNG is to say, in many different ways, > "systemd isn't so bad." Given that systemd being bad is the > foundational belief that created the Devuan project thus the DNG list, > he knows he's just making trouble. He's a troll. Don't feed the troll. > > I /dev/nulled

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-08 Thread Evilham
Am 08/11/2017 um 12:18 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > The "my own PC has been like this so many years" reasoning is a very poor > justification for a design decision that impacts users that run their > systems in the most diverse scenarios and environments, just like the "this > (bad) decision was

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 22:04:05 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: >> I don't get why you'd want to keep moving things around on the real >> system if you can isolate it into initrd. > > OK, I believe you, Adam. You don't. This is a brush on poetry! :-) Alessandro

[DNG] [ANNOUNCE] Devuan Docker Base Images available

2017-11-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Dear all, I have made mention of my Devuan Docker base images on the DNG list in the past[1,2,3]. At that time, there was only a single base image for jessie. Now, there are also images for ascii and ceres as well as a "devuan/slim" variant and "devuan/builder" and "devuan/helper" images that

Re: [DNG] WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable

2017-11-08 Thread Alessandro Selli
On Tue, 7 Nov 2017 at 17:50:27 +0100 John Hughes wrote: > On 07/11/17 17:41, dev wrote: >> >> On 11/07/2017 10:29 AM, John Hughes wrote: >>> On 07/11/17 17:13, Klaus Ethgen wrote: [ separate / and /usr ] is the best way to keep your /usr flexible to further lvm

[DNG] / on lvm2 volume (was Re: WARNING: lvm2 > 2.02.173-1 breaks some systems and make them unbootable)

2017-11-08 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, John Hughes writes: > On 07/11/17 17:13, Klaus Ethgen wrote: >> [ separate / and /usr ] is the best way to keep your /usr flexible to >> further lvm grows for example. > > Personally I have a / on a lvm2 volume. Works OK for me, I see no loss > in flexibility. I recently did a fresh Devuan