On 10/14/18 12:45 AM, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On 2018-10-14 01:52, Rick Moen wrote:
Anyhow, it can be vital to know _what_ server is answering (well or
otherwise) your system's DNS questions by default. Looking at
/etc/resolv.conf should answer that question.
I don't have anything in
Hi, Steve!
On 17/10/18 at 07:34, Steve Litt wrote:
> Yes, yes, yes, yes, YES!
> I just got thru updating my unbound doc at
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/unbound_nsd/unbound.htm , and added a
> new glossary.
i noticed a couple of lines are missing in the reverse-zone
definitions of the
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 04:58:33PM +0200, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > c) where and how would you draw the line indicating what's unacceptable
> > > about
> > > systemd - in other words, what exactly do you mean by "the Unix
Quoting goli...@dyne.org (goli...@dyne.org):
> Can't say for sure. Wouldn't Comcast/Spectrum/RoadRunner(TWC) be
> able to throttle traffic more effectively using their in-house DNS
> service? Maybe unbound escapes their reach?
I don't think this is likely for various reasons including the fact
Quoting Bruce Ferrell (bferr...@baywinds.org):
> For Linux stuff I've become somewhat fond of X2go
Yes, X2Go's really good -- delivering on the promise of FreenX (now
unmaintained) to greatly improve on the performance delivery of VNC/RFP
and RDP.
--
Cheers, Mia
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 16:58:33 +0200
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
> > > c) where and how would you draw the line indicating what's
> > > unacceptable about systemd - in other words, what exactly do you
> > > mean by "the Unix
Quoting info at smallinnovations dot nl (i...@smallinnovations.nl):
> The easiest way would be to make a connection with ssh -X or -Y which
> enables X-forwarding. You then can start a individual X program from the
> commandline but also the complete WM. Perfectly showing how capable
> linux is
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 17:32:50 +1100
wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote:
> > On 17 Oct 2018, at 15:58, Steve Litt
> > wrote:
> >
> > What's your opinion of nslookup as an alternative to dig? Not sure,
> > but I think you need to install bind to get dig, and not everyone
> > wants to install bind.
>
On Tue, 16 Oct 2018 22:37:57 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> (I continually find myself making the point on Dng that the quest
> for universal solutions may be noble in its aims but will never
> really succeed very well.)
The preceding is what I've been trying to say for years, but didn't
have the
> ..the systemd approach was (and still is?) convert (or "generate")
> sysvinit scripts into systemd unit files.
Still is. But that is only half the issue. As mentioned already, any
attempt to run a sysv script is intercepted by SystemD. The
corresponding unit file ('generated' or 'packaged')
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:14:52PM +0200, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> On 17-10-18 13:19, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via
> > large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to
> >
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 05:51:11PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
>
> > "They" REALLY want to force the use of systemd.
> >
> > I REALLY don't want to use systemd. I've seen too many problems since
> > it's introduction.
> >
> > Now
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 11:31:41 -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote in message
:
> On 2018-10-15 22:22, mett wrote:
> > On 2018年10月16日 11:16:30 JST, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> >>> On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote
> >>>
> >> It is incredibly annoying to be connected to
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 15:14:46 +0200, Edward wrote in message
:
> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
> stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead.
..the systemd approach
On 2018-10-15 22:22, mett wrote:
On 2018年10月16日 11:16:30 JST, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
On Sat, Oct 13, 2018 at 05:30:56PM -0500, goli...@dyne.org wrote
It is incredibly annoying to be connected to a rather fast pipe yet
have
to travel on what feels like 56k connection to get to where I can
On 10/17/18 8:51 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
> > On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> >> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> >> of scripts? That would bypass the entire
On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote:
On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use
On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
> of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
> stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead. An
> edit/patch would aim to make sysvinit
KatolaZ - 17.10.18, 16:58:
> process supervision and management system. Which is probably 90% of
> the reason why systemd needed to fagocitate the whole low-level
> user-space (please remember that the only way to reliably know that a
> process is dead under unix is to be the parent of that
On 17-10-18 13:19, Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via
> large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to
> another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is
> also just to tell the audience
On 10/17/18 9:58 AM, KatolaZ wrote:
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
[cut]
c) where and how would you draw the line indicating what's unacceptable about
systemd - in other words, what exactly do you mean by "the Unix paradigm" in
your comment above?
Split out
On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 09:30:50AM -0500, Daniel Taylor wrote:
[cut]
> > c) where and how would you draw the line indicating what's unacceptable
> > about
> > systemd - in other words, what exactly do you mean by "the Unix paradigm" in
> > your comment above?
> Split out the PID 1 stuff to just
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:53:07PM -0700, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> For real fun, turn on Avahi along with all the pulse audio stuff.
>
> Watch your network get flooded with multi-cast audio.
Flooded? I'm sorry, but does you network is built over 33,6kbs
modems? Have you lost the perspective?
On 10/17/18 9:08 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 15:54:11, Daniel Taylor wrote:
I am becoming convinced that the proper course of attack is to reimplement
all the systemd functions in the Unix paradigm.
a) I seriously doubt that that is possible, without effectively
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 15:54:11, Daniel Taylor wrote:
> I am becoming convinced that the proper course of attack is to reimplement
> all the systemd functions in the Unix paradigm.
a) I seriously doubt that that is possible, without effectively just re-writing
systemd
b) systemd's
On 10/17/18 8:14 AM, Edward Bartolo wrote:
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead. An
edit/patch would aim to make sysvinit
On Wed, 17 Oct 2018 13:19:33 +0200
Miroslav Skoric wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations
> via large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN
> to another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is
> also just
Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead
of scripts? That would bypass the entire problem. Those who want to
stick to scripts can always direct sysvinit to use scripts instead. An
edit/patch would aim to make sysvinit recognise unit files and run
scripts when instructed
Hi all,
I recently installed Devuan Jessie on a computer for presentations via
large TV. And that machine is also directly wired in a small LAN to
another box that runs some old Ubuntu (probably 12.04 or so, it is also
just to tell the audience what Linux is about). Machines can ping each
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 10:37:57PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
>
> > So it comes down to a) try to kill the chatty discovery protocols and
> > perpetuate the "geeks vs users" divide
>
> Was there a particular part of 'not on _my_ network' that was unclear?
Maybe we need discovery protocols
On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 06:05:21PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
wrote:
>
> I personally, got tired of inventing yet another init system - did that
> over 20 years ago (actually, some things not so different from *early*
> systemd - before they became totally nuts).
>
> The problem,
On 16.10.18 22:53, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
>
> For real fun, turn on Avahi along with all the pulse audio stuff.
>
> Watch your network get flooded with multi-cast audio.
>
> Scramble to shut it down as fast as you can.
Errrm, devuan ascii is running both of those OOTB.
On another current thread,
Quoting wirelessd...@gmail.com (wirelessd...@gmail.com):
> Since looking at Unbound and NSD, I’ve been trying out drill as an
> alternative developed by the same NLnet people.
>
> https://www.nlnetlabs.nl/projects/ldns/about/
>
> Install via the ldnsutils package.
'drill' is the very newest
> On 17 Oct 2018, at 15:58, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> What's your opinion of nslookup as an alternative to dig? Not sure, but
> I think you need to install bind to get dig, and not everyone wants to
> install bind.
Since looking at Unbound and NSD, I’ve been trying out drill as an alternative
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
> I just got thru updating my unbound doc at
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/unbound_nsd/unbound.htm , and added a
> new glossary. This is very necessary because there are so many
> contradictory terms for things over the Internet. I'm not saying
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