Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-23 Thread J. Fahrner
Am 2018-10-24 00:58, schrieb Steve Litt: I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. If anybody has an objection to this, speak now

[DNG] CD-ROM missing valid 'Release' file on devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso

2018-10-23 Thread Lars Noodén
Using the devuan_ascii_2.0.0_amd64_dvd-1.iso image from a USB stick I consistently get the error: [!] Detect and mount CD-ROM Error reading Release file The CD-ROM does not seem to contain a valid 'Release' file, or that file could not be read correctly.

Re: [DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/23/18 3:58 PM, Steve Litt wrote: using logger to capture stdout and stderr Steve, I found this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/124455/linux-how-to-redirect-stdout-stderr-to-logger What software do I need to install to follow you? Package 'logger' is a bit obscure.

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/23/18 11:27 AM, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: Is there any log of the actual issue? -- buZz I made a post with the log last night, but it's now missing, gone, caput, not even in my sent folder or my draft folder.. Here's the log: [ 213.706282] IPv6: ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/23/18 2:19 PM, eric wrote: On 10/23/18 9:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote: On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/23/18 2:19 PM, eric wrote: On 10/23/18 9:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote: On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart

[DNG] Speak now, or forever hold your peace

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
Hi all, I'm about to start adapting runscripts to Devuan ASCII. Many/most daemons do log messages themselves, but for the ones that don't, I'll be using logger to capture stdout and stderr and put them in the logs. If anybody has an objection to this, speak now or forever hold your peace.

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread eric
On 10/23/18 9:24 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote: On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart stuff we have today, if First

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Antoine
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 11:18:39PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 19:07:36 +0200, Didier wrote in message > <826ba68a-6289-d047-7e74-d970996d2...@in2p3.fr>: > > > Le 21/10/2018 à 19:01, Didier Kryn a écrit : > > >     I'm not an expert, but it seems to me the answer is in

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread Bastiaan van den Berg
Is there any log of the actual issue? -- buZz ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:00:08 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" >

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 21/10/18 21:10, Jimmy Johnson wrote: I first noticed it while testing Stretch, I run a multimedia setup no problem with Jessie without systemd or

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 16:00:08 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >>> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread g4sra
>> As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it >> from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in Debian, >> but gave up later. Or it never really worked. I frequently used (and liked) chkconfig because it did work well on Red Hat Distros. I can see that

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:32:54PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: [cut] > > Ahh, the preceding explains why G. Pape says runit level logs are > required on *some* daemons, but not others. If the daemon already > performs meaningful syslog() calls, there's no reason for further > logging. The logger

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 15:45:19 +0200 Stephan Seitz wrote: > On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > >On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > >> Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" > >> > >> It's no longer present in Debian stable

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 11:06:52 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: >     Logger is a way to redirect to syslog one of the output paths of > an application, by the mean of a pipe, or for a script to send such > messages. Logger reads messages and sends them by invoking the > syslog() function. If you force

Re: [DNG] Who remembers rootkit..

2018-10-23 Thread Jimmy Johnson
On 10/21/18 2:13 PM, eric wrote: On 10/21/18 11:54 AM, Jimmy Johnson wrote: On 10/21/18 6:24 AM, Andrew McGlashan wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The smart tv has wifi, like all this smart stuff we have today, if the HDMI cable has internet, I doubt it, just audio

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread mett
On 2018年10月23日 18:44:25 JST, Didier Kryn wrote: >Le 23/10/2018 à 11:21, Stephan Seitz a écrit : >> On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 11:06:52 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: >>>     syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any >>> application to send messages to the system logging facility, through >

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Bruce Ferrell
On 10/23/18 4:27 AM, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Hi, Bruce Ferrell writes: [...] If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not start a process present in the init system", There is a command, chkconfig: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Stephan Seitz (stse+dev...@fsing.rootsland.net): > As far as I know chkconfig was never a Debian tool. I only know it > from RPM distros. Maybe someone tried to include chkconfig in > Debian, but gave up later. Or it never really worked. It may be of interest that the Red Hat 'chkconfig'

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 23/10/2018 à 15:45, Stephan Seitz a écrit : On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can still

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 08:16:51 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later. You can still find it in oldstable (jessie) though. See

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-23 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 23:10:35 +0200, Miroslav wrote in message <4149ab4f-76e2-f4e5-af96-38bd433dd...@uns.ac.rs>: > On 10/20/2018 04:31 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > >> > >> It's a seniors club, 70-75 at average. Some of them are more-less > >> fluent in (pirated) Window$ -based mouse clicking to

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 08:27:25PM +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi, > > Bruce Ferrell writes: > > > [...] > > > > If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not > > start a process present in the init system", There is a command, > > chkconfig: > > Make that: "there

Re: [DNG] Devuan + remote desktop of Ubuntu = how?

2018-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Arnt Karlsen writes: > On Sun, 21 Oct 2018 00:05:55 +1100, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote in > message <6ec111c6-d733-4e15-a944-e2419b63c...@gmail.com>: > >> > >> > For Ubuntu there is Remina or like (if I recall the proper name) >> > but duno what needs for Devuan. >> > >> > Misko >> >> Remains

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi, Bruce Ferrell writes: > [...] > > If I understand the original question "how to I get sysV init to not > start a process present in the init system", There is a command, > chkconfig: Make that: "there *was* a command, chkconfig:" It's no longer present in Debian stable (stretch) and later.

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 23/10/2018 à 11:21, Stephan Seitz a écrit : On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 11:06:52 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:     syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any application to send messages to the system logging facility, through the socket /var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 23/10/2018 à 05:58, mett a écrit : Hi, by the way, what do u think about what is written on that page regarding logging? http://jdebp.eu./FGA/unix-daemon-design-mistakes-to-avoid.html     The fan-in/fan-out argument is an issue if you send massive amounts of data to syslog(). In this

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Stephan Seitz
On Di, Okt 23, 2018 at 11:06:52 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:     syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any application to send messages to the system logging facility, through the socket /var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably using a semaphore) to I think you mean

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Didier Kryn (k...@in2p3.fr): >     syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any > application to send messages to the system logging facility, through > the socket /var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably using a > semaphore) to prevent two applications to write in the

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 23/10/2018 à 09:23, Steve Litt a écrit :     Just to be simple and clear:     syslog() is a member of the C library which allows any application to send messages to the system logging facility, through the socket /var/log/syslog and some lock mechanism (probably using a semaphore) to

Re: [DNG] Command to permanently prevent sysvinit from starting daemon

2018-10-23 Thread Hleb Valoshka
On 10/21/18, Alessandro Selli wrote: > I don't think init scripts are considered configuration files, as in > fact the are not. ... > So, I expect an update to overwrite the init script with the update's > version regardless, and to reset the permissions to those set in the > package. All

Re: [DNG] Everyone OK for using the logger program for runit logging?

2018-10-23 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 23 Oct 2018 06:49:56 +0200 KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 04:59:16PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > [cut] > > > > > Hi Daniel, > > > > You were so thorough giving facts that I didn't understand your > > answer: Would you recommend using logger to transfer daemon stderr > >