Re: [DNG] The Internet Wifi Daemon

systemd running on our > routers. How amazing that we will finally have one standard across all > devices . "Thou shalt have no daemon other than systemd!" (Ex.d, 20.3) -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@e

Re: [DNG] Gtk3-theme

ironments, Claws Mail, > > AbiWord, Chrome, Firefox, Midori, Pidgin and many more. > > I'll add orca to that list, given there's currently no equivalent for > the GNU/Linux desktop as far as I know. Not to mention Libreoffice. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP S

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

On Tue, 8 Nov 2016 at 09:31:31 +0100 Giovanni Rapagnani wrote: [...] > devuan-discuss mailing list was created early May with the hope that was created *in* early May We might add "early May 2016", to let it stay relevant after May 2017. > systemd-free living, Devuan

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 at 09:21:29 +0100 Giovanni Rapagnani wrote: [...] > The information > given on the community page of the website should reflect that fact, and > not erroneously tell people to subscribe to a ML where there is almost > no activity. Sounds to me the

Re: [DNG] devuan-discuss is not useful, quite the opposite

On 23/11/2016 at 12:06, hellekin wrote: [...] > I feel like every time I'm trying to touch something, nobody cares, or > resist for some obscure reason. In these conditions, I'm very much > doubting my own capacity to bring anything worth to this community. I'd > like that it's made clear, so

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

pplicant and wpa_gui/wicd in the install media, another thing is the lack of proprietary drivers. Nowhere in Robert Storey's email did I read any mention of specific hardware support missing due to the lack of proprietary drivers. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dha

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

Il giorno Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:12:34 -0300 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> ha scritto: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 14:30:58 +0100 > Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: > > > Devuan was born with the intention of removing the ar

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

, you're only stating that now. > and once again, the same > guy who brought patents into the mix asserted that I had falsely > diagnosed the OP's problem. You surely did: https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20161206.220637.24cd7edb.en.html |Author: Robert Storey |Date: 2016-12-0

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

Il giorno Thu, 15 Dec 2016 12:14:06 -0300 Emiliano Marini <emilianomarin...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > Tried the 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae kernel (enabling PAE/NX in VirtualBox > config) with same results. Did you try the debug option? > On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 12:12 PM, A

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

Il giorno Thu, 15 Dec 2016 11:51:05 -0300 Emiliano Marini <emilianomarin...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > How could I check the logs if the kernel isn't loading? There is any way to > see GRUB logs besides removing the "quiet" option? Try adding the debug option. --

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 at 11:28:13 -0500 Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2016 15:27:33 +0100 > Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: > > > Il giorno Tue, 6 Dec 2016 11:12:34 -0300 > > Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

Il giorno Thu, 15 Dec 2016 08:45:39 -0300 Emiliano Marini <emilianomarin...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > What could possibly be wrong with the new kernel? Please, check the logs of the failed boot. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net C

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

which, I'd set this as a default GRUB setting. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Won't boot after dist-upgrade

mkinitramfs -o /boot/initrd.img-4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686.emi 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686.emi (make sure 4.7.0-0.bpo.1-686.emi is the right kernel version string). -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 __

Re: [DNG] ConsoleKit2

zr at 0pointer.de Thu Jan 26 18:26:22 PST 2012 Ubuntu plans to take over maintainership (more precisely Martin Pitt from Canonical), to maintain it as long as they still need it, and will change the name while doing so. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

On giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:28:03 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > Hi Alessandro, > I know this is not very helpful, but, cacti is virtually a dead project > (still no 0.9 for about 10 years and still waiting). I suggest using > librenms which is much better and

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

Il giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 16:50:22 +0100 Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> ha scritto: > On giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 17:28:03 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar > <aldemir.akpi...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hi Alessandro, > > I know this is not very helpful, but,

[DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

Hello people, I'm writing on this ML about this issue I've had with cacti before I'll be able to edit https://git.devuan.org/devuan-packages (if ever :-). The version of Cacti that ships with Jessie (0.8.8b) just wouldn't talk (or listen) to the SNMP agent. There is nothing wrong with

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

On giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 at 16:58:30 + Chris Kalin wrote: > Cacti isn’t dead – 0.8.8g came out in Feb 2016 and 0.8.8h came out in May. Well, it's not dead, but it is in intensive care: http://www.cacti.net/roadmap.php This roadmap is out of date. We are

Re: [DNG] Cacti version 0.8.8b fails communicaction with SNMP agent

Il giorno Thu, 1 Dec 2016 17:28:03 +0300 Aldemir Akpinar <aldemir.akpi...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > On 1 December 2016 at 17:21, Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> > wrote: > > > Hello people, > > I'm writing on this ML about this issue I'

Re: [DNG] recent debian-systemd-people gaffe

On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 at 23:04:18 +0100 Klaus Ethgen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Just for your amusement or your seriousness, have a look at the most > recent gaffe of debian systemd people Biebl. #845480. Let me see...

Re: [DNG] Networking on installation: was Devuan GNU+Linux Beta2 release

ssphrase >> wpa_supplicant.conf > > 7) By hook or by crook, get a DHCP lease > a) If necessary, put DHCP server on this computer > > 8) Verify lookup of devuan.org > a) If not, run some intelligent diagnostic software That'd be a nice piece of software to have. I'd like

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On 03/01/2017 at 21:47, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > >> What's wrong with 8.8.8.8? > Nothing at all if you want it. When asked for namservice IPs, just enter > '8.8.8.8' and '8.8.4.4'. Done. > > Jaromir's question amounted to 'If the installing sysadmin

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:26:35 +0100 Jaromil <jaro...@dyne.org> ha scritto: > > On Wed, 04 Jan 2017, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > > [ ] Pick random ones > > [ ] Pick the geographically closest ones > > [ ] Show a list of public DNS servers to choose f

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 06:25:51 -0500 Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com>: > > > Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500 > > Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> ha scritto: > > > >>

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On 03/01/2017 at 18:20, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 11:06:53 +0100 > Jaromil wrote: > >> On Mon, 02 Jan 2017, Jaromil wrote: >> >>> what a pity Debian has switched to Google's DNS by default. >> for the record and the sake of historical correctness: >> >>

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On 03/01/2017 at 22:38, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Alessandro Selli writes: >> Why are Debian >> folks so eager at increasing Google's traffic and "free" "services"? > > Just a guess: Because so many of the resolvers at random hotels suck, > and that suc

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 12:24:40 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 01:10:31PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > I'm kind of envisioning this as part of the initial system setup, so a > > > little

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Thu, 5 Jan 2017 02:26:25 -0800 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> I followed the same logic when I listed 26 alternate public DNS servers to >> choose from. I know it contradicts my own a

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

nerated by resolvconf(8) # DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN [alessandro@wkstn03 ~]$ lsb_release -drc Description:Ubuntu 16.10 Release: 16.10 Codename: yakkety [alessandro@wkstn03 ~]$ -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.co

Re: [DNG] Fwd: [kbd] [ANNOUNCE] kbd-2.0.4 (stable)

Add .travis.yml > > Perry Thompson (1): > Add carpalx keymap > > Thomas Petazzoni (1): > Link against libintl when needed > > Vitezslav Crhonek (1): > Improve consistency of man pages and usage messages. > > Xose Vazquez Perez (1): >

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 4 Jan 2017 15:34:20 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> ha scritto: > On Wed, Jan 04, 2017 at 04:18:10PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > I am strongly convinced that we don't want to (and we should not, by > > > any means)

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen <a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote: > Alessandro Selli writes: >> This still doesn't explain why they decided to force-feed Google's DNS >> server on the user without prompting the poor fellow any possible choice. > &

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il giorno Wed, 04 Jan 2017 05:53:56 -0500 Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com>: > > > On Tue, 3 Jan 2017 at 22:03:47 + Arnt Gulbrandsen > > <a...@gulbrandsen.priv.no> wrote: > > > >>

Re: [DNG] how to clear DNS cache

Il 04/01/2017 20:45, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> "Your network stinks. What DNS servers do you want to use? > [amazing list, ending with:] > >> [ ] Pick random ones >> [ ] Pick the geographically closest o

Re: [DNG] anybody going to libreplanet?

a good time, with good people. I'm not sure I'll be able > to make it - I live in the area, but I'm currently in AZ for an extended > period, helping my 96-year-old Dad settle into a new house - not sure if > I'll be back in time. > > Hopefully someone from the Devuan team will be ther

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

orgotten what freedom of choice is» Exactly for that reason, because we stand for freedom of choice, they used to and they have now have abandoned that noble cause to side with the majority (of wrongdoers). -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VO

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

;> project, demonstrated strongly by the systemd debacle, is what made me >>>> a >>>> former Debian user. >>>> Don Wright >>>> -- >>>> Sponsored by Berserker Express. At BE, we bring things to Goodlife. &g

Re: [DNG] New package

aMule (from ubuntu) > https://git.devuan.org/nioanto/amule > > > you can download from git or > > you can test them by installing from my external repository, hezeh.org > (thank you parazyd) aMule, hat's good to have. Thank you! -- Alessandro Selli <alessandro

Re: [DNG] We need to speak up

nually setting agetty to /sbin yields a working console base for systemd on openwrt. Now im stuck on the " login: " as systemdlogin does not compile correctly.» -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys:

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On 10/04/2017 at 23:43, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password. >> Using root password many times, every day, is bad for security (the more >> times you type i

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

and fast to type password. IMO the best solution is having sudo run scripts that mount unknown devices (i.e., not configured in /etc/fstab) on directories under /mnt, and maybe create them if needed. -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dh

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 12:55:37 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Tue, Apr 11, 2017 at 01:34:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > One cannot avoid using at least once his own password at the start of > > the session, so this passwor

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 07:13:36 +0100 Klaus Ethgen <klaus+d...@ethgen.ch> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA512 > > Am Mo den 10. Apr 2017 um 22:09 schrieb Alessandro Selli: > > You still should use sudo, with a password - the user's own password.

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Il giorno Mon, 10 Apr 2017 15:17:46 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > > > IMO, using root's password in those same cases is the worst possible > > password use case. One thing is your non-pr

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

er password. Of course doing nothing is the most secure option, but if you have a PC I suppose you have it for a purpose, to run it and take advantage of it's capabilities. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Il 12/04/2017 03:32, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> I argued against the assertion by Rick Moen that sudo constitutes "a >> proxy for the root password"... > I did not so state. > > I character

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

Il 13/04/2017 16:55, Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> This is what can be logically inferred from what you wrote. > No. Yep. > I'm sorry this conversation was not fruitful, which as mentioned is why I have > disengag

Re: [DNG] gvfs depends on libsystemd0

On Wed, 12 Apr 2017 at 14:18:34 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> As sudo can be made to operate either requiring the user to type his >> own password or no password, stating (now) that just &quo

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 16:42, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alessandro: >> On 18/04/2017 at 15:11, k...@aspodata.se wrote: >>> Alessandro Selli: >>> ... >>>> And >>>> what I don't like of Karl Aspo's idea is that it takes any instrument of >>>>

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 15:11, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alessandro Selli: > ... >> And >> what I don't like of Karl Aspo's idea is that it takes any instrument of >> policy checking and enforcing out of the monitor, which ends up not >> being able to monitor anything,

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 16:16, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 02:48:54PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: >> kato...@freaknet.org writes: >>> Unfortunately we are already paying the consequences of badly-written >>> software implementing oddly-designed solutions to non-existing >>> problems... >>

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 14:46, k...@aspodata.se wrote: [...] > Why srvmgt_daemonize(), use -f and daemon() and you'd be fine in > either camp, end case. This is well *if* the daemon has -f and does daemon(). I know the only programs that do not do it are those that were not intended to be run as

Re: [DNG] ...

On Sun, 23 Apr 2017 at 01:52:04 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > https://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=trending > > HND Closing in to the double-digit placement. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Il giorno Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:14:56 -0500 Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> ha scritto: > On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:47:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > Il 08/03/2017 18:33, goli...@dyne.org ha scritto: > > > This is a follow up to this old thread: > > &

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

Il 09/03/2017 17:21, Alessandro Selli ha scritto: > Il giorno Wed, 8 Mar 2017 22:14:56 -0500 > Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> ha scritto: > >> On Wed, Mar 08, 2017 at 10:47:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote: >>> Il 08/03/2017 18:33, goli...@dyne.org ha scr

Re: [DNG] FF pulseaudio hard dependency is here

to still oppose PA in favor of Alsa. Does anyone? Since it's going to be a fight to keep PA at bay, I think we need to argument our decisions against PA in stronger terms than "it was developed by Lennart Poettering", lest we sound just "irrational" and "stubborn" p

Re: [DNG] [ann] heads 0.0 is out!

ut free speech because you have nothing to say.» Edward Snowden Thank you to all those who worked on Heads. -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD, 4A904FD9 ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 at 12:06:44 +0200 (CEST) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Enrico Weigelt: > ... > > Let's just take some example: libsrvmgt with funcs like that: > > > > * srvmgt_daemonize() > > --> detach from controlling terminal, etc > > Why do any monitor program need to know if the

Re: [DNG] Manjaro dropping consolekit

logind/19412/45 «I plan a elogind default on openrc instead of consolekit. This should give working wayland sessions on non systemd.» Sounds good, even if I don't know about elogind. -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

eel spinning, or perhaps an excuse for profit-driven complexification. I fully agree. Than you for having put down such a good manifesto. -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiave PGP/GPG key: B7FD89FD _

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 19:01, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 06:48:31PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > >>> There is really no other reasonable alternative, IMVHO. >> Yes, there is. It's called a good compromise. Then, outside of it, >> you fi

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 10:35, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Alessandro Selli: >> On Fri, 14 Apr 2017 at 12:06:44 +0200 (CEST) >> k...@aspodata.se wrote: >>> Enrico Weigelt: >>> ... >>>> Let's just take some example: libsrvmgt with funcs like that: >>&g

Re: [DNG] tiny service state api [WAS: Fwd: init system agnosticism]

On 18/04/2017 at 12:32, KatolaZ wrote: > On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 12:21:05PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > >>> And why should a program/daemon care if >>> it has a monitor or not ? >> Why should a car driver care if the traffic light has

Re: [DNG] OT: most processors are insecure (was Re: Nvidia Drivers)

On Tue, 15 Aug 2017 at 13:48:37 -0400 Haines Brown wrote: > It would be naive to think that CPU producers don't build in a > backdoor. This is why I take an interest in Chinese CPUs. There are also processors produced from Russian firms:

Re: [DNG] OT: most processors are insecure (was Re: Nvidia Drivers)

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 07:59:34 +0200 Narcis Garcia wrote: > El 15/08/17 a les 21:33, Simon Hobson ha escrit: >> Narcis Garcia wrote: >> >>> As Far As I Know, CPU makes what software asks to do. >>> If software doesn't call some CPU functions,

Re: [DNG] openssl/libssl1 in Debian has disabled TLS 1.0 & 1.1

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 11:56:46 +0100 ael wrote: [...] > Devuan needs to avoid importing this problem. It also needs to avoid been labelled as an unsafe distro, one of the few¹ to still support unsecure protocols. After all, TLS v. 2.0 is from 1995, quite a

Re: [DNG] openssl/libssl1 in Debian has disabled TLS 1.0 & 1.1

On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 13:24:36 +0200 Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Aug 2017 at 11:56:46 +0100 > ael <adrian.lawre...@physics.oxon.org> wrote: > > [...] > > > Devuan needs to avoid importing this problem. > >

Re: [DNG] OT: most processors are insecure (was Re: Nvidia Drivers)

’s] unique feature into the product, as long as it doesn’t make the die so much bigger that it becomes a cost burden for everyone else,” says Bryant. “When we ship it to Customer A, he’ll see it. Customer B has no idea that feature is there.” -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com>

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Status of releasebot and updates to www.devuan.org

Il 12/08/2017 20:04, Jaromil ha scritto: > apologies, this mail was meant to the -dev list, which is still > public, so sincere apologies for cross-posting, it really wasn't > meant. It was a good reading, though! :-) Greetings, -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@li

Re: [DNG] donating a host

thinking about a Devuan porting to such an architecture. But I think Ultrasparc III too are a bit too old to spend the time required to port a modern GNU/Linux distribution on it. Greetings, -- Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> Tel. 3701355486 VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.n

Re: [DNG] Motion to moderate

On Wed, 19 Jul 2017 at 20:24:59 +0200 (CEST) <maildoneri...@tutanota.com> wrote: [...] > ps -- I'm starting to wonder what you guys do here... > Practising my Del-key kung-fu master expertize. Greetz, -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat.

Re: [DNG] WICD & DNS & IPv6

ake the DHCPD's server and prepend your own with a line like the abose with "prepend" instead of "append". I hope it's going to work with IPv6 addresses too, I never tried it with those. Bye, -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatara

Re: [DNG] [OT] setnet.sh version 0.2.1 released

On Sun, 8 Jan 2017 at 00:38:45 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: [...] > - added a manpage Love this. Bye, -- Alessandro Selli http://alessandro.route-add.net VOIP SIP: dhatarat...@ekiga.net Chiavi PGP/GPG keys: B7FD89FD,

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

On 23/07/2017 at 00:51, Rick Moen wrote: [...] > to the > best of my recollection everyone moved to a x86_64 flavour around > 2003-ish (or exited the market). So, I estimate that these computers > are at least 14 years old. lscpu Architecture:i686 CPU op-mode(s): 32-bit Byte

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

On Sun, 23 Jul at 2017 07:46:52 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: [...] > And there are a whole bunch of SBC things which still use x86 > processors. Right, you can still buy *new* hardware based on x86 CPUs: http://www.compactpc.com.tw/product.aspx?act=detail=351 Alessandro

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 at 09:55:32 +0200 Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: >> They are over 20 years old and runs without Problems :-) > > And make the local retrocomputing club proud of their > accomplishments! :-) However, a real accomplishment would

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

Il giorno Sun, 23 Jul 2017 09:02:08 +0200 Juergen Moebius ha scritto: > Hi, this is nothing! Well, you surely beat my oldies, I must admit! > actually in german city "Leipzig" this two machines runs in an MusicShop: > > 1. a little Faxmachine, running Slackware 8.1:

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 at 13:16:01 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Sun, Jul 23, 2017 at 09:02:08AM +0200, Juergen Moebius wrote: >> Hi, this is nothing! >> >> processor: 0 >> vendor_id: GenuineIntel >> cpu family : 5 >> model: 4 >> model name :

Re: [DNG] systemd'oh! DNS lib underscore bug bites everyone's favorite init tool, blanks Netflix

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 07:37:10 +1000 Ozi Traveller wrote: > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/24/underscore_domain_name_bug/ Quote: «His speculation that libidn2, which adds internationalised domain names support to the resolver, was at fault

Re: [DNG] Please keep 32-bits alive

On Mon, 24 Jul 2017 at 21:52:23 +0200 Ruediger Meier wrote: > On Monday 24 July 2017, Joachim Fahrner wrote: >> Am 2017-07-24 20:34, schrieb Hendrik Boom: >>> How much source code actually cares whether pointers are 32 or 64 >>> bits? >> >> Clean written code should not

Re: [DNG] systemd'oh! DNS lib underscore bug bites everyone's favorite init tool, blanks Netflix

On Tue, 25 Jul 2017 at 00:13:08 +0200 Dragan FOSS wrote: > On 07/24/2017 11:37 PM, Ozi Traveller wrote: > > https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/07/24/underscore_domain_name_bug/ > > > > Oops! > Actually (and TBH..), this is a bug in libidn2, which isn't in systemd > source

[DNG] systemd: good riddance!

Issues just keep piling up: https://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-3341-1/ Summary systemd-resolved could be made to crash or run programs if it received a specially crafted DNS response. Details An out-of-bounds write was discovered in systemd-resolved when handling specially crafted DNS responses.

Re: [DNG] How long should I expect to wait for openrc to be ready in devuan ascii

On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 at 00:24:59 +0200 Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 30/06/2017 à 23:30, Vincent Bentley a écrit : > > Along time ago, well designed and well behaved software could be > > recognised by the number of years passed without changes. I worked at > > one place that was proud of

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 11:41:05 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 12:18:19PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > > > > didn't involve a right > > > reserved under copyright in the first place, > >

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

I still think it's a bug that systemd runs a process as root when adduser is configured to prevent creation of a user with a given name but such a user does exist. systemd ought to default to "nobody" were there issues determining what user a process should be run as. -- Alessandro

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 at 13:22:47 +0200 Joachim Fahrner <j...@fahrner.name> wrote: > Am 2017-07-04 12:46, schrieb Alessandro Selli: >> I still think it's a bug that systemd runs a process as root when >> adduser is >> configured to prevent creation of a user with a giv

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 12:44:34 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > On Tue, Jul 04, 2017 at 01:08:24PM +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote: > > [cut] > >> >> Right, which brings up the issue that you cannot produce a distibution >> without an initram

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 14:12:09 +0200 Alessandro Selli <alessandrose...@linux.com> wrote: [...] > They are advanced, mostly SAS and FC controllers, maybe some iSCSI > device too. Mostly Enterprise hardware, not consumer-PC. I did a quick search, all (or at least most) devices

Re: [DNG] Listserver configuration

t Parent SOA Serial Number Format appears valid SOA Refresh Value is within the recommended range SOA Retry Value is within the recommended range SOA Minimum TTL Value is within allowed values No Open Recursive Name Server Detected No Open Zone Transfer

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 14:41:28 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 13:06:41 -0700 >> Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: >> >> > Your upthr

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 15:33:57 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> You are still failing the easiest way to demonstrate your point: > > Non-sequitur argument noted in passing. You fai

Re: [DNG] systemd allows elevated access from unit files?

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 09:08:11 -0500 dev wrote: > Sounds like a "won't fix", too: > > "So, yeah, I don't think there's anything to fix in systemd here." >- Poettering > > Not sure what's more troubling here[1]; the lack of concern, the > digression from POSIX, or the

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Tue, 27 Jun 2017 at 22:57:16 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting John Morris (jmor...@beau.org): > >> Nope, that negates one of the principle reasons to use an initramfs in >> the first place. You assume the stock kernel can see the drive where >> you intend to put this new

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 at 01:03:13 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 00:42:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20170703004252.748a9c7f@ayu>: > >> Il giorno Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:11 +0200 >> Didier Kryn ha scritto: >> >>> Le 28/06/2017 à 15:40,

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Wed, 28 Jun 2017 at 08:09:21 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Stephan Seitz (stse+dev...@fsing.rootsland.net): > > > That the kernel can’t find the root filesystem if it is encrypted? > > And the kernel lacks the capability to ask you for the password. > > If you're

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Mon, 3 Jul at 2017 01:03:13 +0200 Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Mon, 3 Jul 2017 00:42:52 +0200, Alessandro wrote in message > <20170703004252.748a9c7f@ayu>: > >> Il giorno Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:11 +0200 >> Didier Kryn ha scritto: >> >>> Le 28/06/2017 à 15:40,

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

On Sat, 01 Jul 2017 at 23:05:08 + Bruce Perens wrote: > It is the fact that the two actions are connected that makes it a breach. > There are very many actions that are legal in isolation, but not when one > is carried out as a consequence of another. The most common

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

On Sun, 2 Jul 2017 at 17:51:48 -0700 Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote: > Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com): > >> It cannot work if what you need to do is feeding the HD controller some >> proprietary firmware that cannot legally be embedded in

Re: [DNG] some ASCII issues

Il giorno Wed, 28 Jun 2017 19:38:11 +0200 Didier Kryn ha scritto: > Le 28/06/2017 à 15:40, Stephan Seitz a écrit : > > And today you should always encrypt your discs. > > I don't see any reason to encrypt /usr. You might like to encrypt > /etc because it contains user

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