is that, 20 seconds? Add in unskilled implementers and
systemd's propensity to start hundreds of processes, and pretty soon it
takes some serious time to boot, if you count logging in, which you
must, because the way they do things some things can't be completed til
login.
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i Didier,
I've never encountered closures as described by Jaromil, but they're a
pretty handy thing easily done in many languages, with Lua leading the
list. Here's something that might help explain a little bit:
http://troubleshooters.com/codecorn/lua/luaclosures.htm
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s a lot like
worrying about your car's fuel economy and what will happen to it if
you let your car's alternator charge your cell phone.
In summary: Complexity has a cost. Be cost conscious.
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Hi all,
This is a screenshot of my buddy's kernel menuconfig:
https://sanitarium.net/x.png
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> are desktop users, perhaps it's for the better that they went with
> systemd as the default. It gives more credence to Devuan as the
> professional choice.
I wouldn't split it desktop/server or desktop/professional. It didn't
split that way. Very
> A point of grammar: Wrong verb tense.
>
> Systemd hasn't stopped at just init,
As I once said on Debian-User, Redhat won't be satisfied until cat
requires systemd.
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you may
safely assume that s/he is either utterly clueless or deliberately
obfuscating the discussion.
=
True on the face of it. A person saying the whole is a mere part is
either stupid or up to no good.
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> udev, and all the rest -- not just systemd.
Exactly!
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is typically done when the person has been using horrible
netiquette and rather than start a list-based flame war, you contact
him (and perhaps a couple eyewitnesses) exclusively. 2) When you've
mentioned somebody not on the list and want to CC that person.
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On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 00:48:12 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk):
>
> > I too did some checking. From practical experience, one of the
> > ClamAV packages (IIRC it's clamd) has a hard dependency on
> > libsystemd0. Using dpkg --force-depends to install only tha
ty, I'll be doing the Linux-Speakup
thing too. I didn't know about it before this email.
So let me ask you: What standards of quoting are compatible with
Linux-Speakup, and could you please elaborate on concise and
meaningful quoting as it relates to people reading my replies with
Linux-Speaku
On Thu, 28 Jul 2016 11:37:48 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Thus, I'm rather surprised that some members (and ejected ex-members,
> like Steve Litt) of debian-users seriously expected protracted
> lobbying by them as non-members of the project was any sort of
> pragmatic p
ings.
In all fairness to Rick, he was making his statements on SVLUG, and
then, on DNG, *I* referenced the SVLUG archive of the SVLUG discussion,
and only then did he repeat his assertions here.
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ed the LUG from electing new officers, essentially killing it.
Constitutions are great, but you'd better be careful: The outcome
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On Fri, 29 Jul 2016 11:44:17 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > True story. As one of ten founders of a LUG in 1999, and
> > concerned about some future "evil group" "kidnapping" the LUG, I
> > convi
ially
> after reaching stable and in the process of finalising the
> Constitution and Social Contract.
Personally, I'd recommend going *very* slowly on that social contract.
It hasn't been needed yet, and the social contract was the hook on which
Debian hung their "systemd
ers
touch the bottoms of the letters above them. It's *very* hard to read.
I find this same insanely narrow line spacing on many devuan.org pages.
Here's a screenshot:
http://a3b3.com/stuff/devuan_org_compressed_lines.png
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On Sun, 31 Jul 2016 18:51:57 +
hellekin wrote:
> On 07/30/2016 06:10 PM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >
> > Here's a screenshot:
> >
> > http://a3b3.com/stuff/devuan_org_compressed_lines.png
> >
>
> Ouch. Can you please visit the following page a
see what each recommends
brings to the table as far as enhancements for the package that was
installed, and decide. I spoze it's extra work for the packagers, but
it would really help Devuan people keep their machines clean and crisp.
And it would be unique to Devuan.
Steve
(within its limits). TeX is **HUGE**, and you
don't want it unless you need it. And any author using asciidoc with
the idea of outputting to PDF knows he needs either TeX (LaTeX
probably) or some ugly XSLT transform, and can install the necessary
stuff.
g around, I think I have it working with
> ALSA, so does that mean I should remove all references to Pulseaudio?
I usually de-install all of Pulseaudio.
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, I'm also saying we shouldn't go new for
new's sake.
I think this is ontopic at DNG because making interfaces few and thin
is a philosophy.
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; time :-)
>
> Didier
Just install hexchat, connect to Freenode at the default no-ssl port
(6667 I think), say /join #debianfork, and bang, you're there, and the
rest is obvious.
Later you can do ssl and all of that stuff.
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you've got that down
pat, if you want more control over everthing, you switch to the manual.
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Hi all,
If I were making a general purpose menu program that might eventually
end up in Devuan, would you hate me if I made it depend on MongoDB?
Same question, but for YAML? Same question, for both?
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or me and two or three other people
on the planet. But sooner or later I'll make version 2 so everyone can
benefit. I'll write it either in (ubiquitous) Python3 or (lightning
fast) Lua. Using C for this would be swatting a fly with a cannon.
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cts in other objects. If I have
several objects that are almost the same but have differences, I have no
problem using inheritance.
I'm just saying some people endorse it as the only valid paradigm, and
when they try to use it as their only paradigm, their c
Or even Lisp S-expressions.
I don't know how to do that.
>
> Or, if you waant to be elaborate, which Steve probably doesn't, a few
> menu-creating macros to be called from Guile.
I made menu-creating macros from Bash one time, and they worked very
poorly. I've done a t
tterism. Might Lennart someday insert halloween
code that precludes the use of dmenu or Openbox? If a Linux civil war
is necessary, now is probably better than later.
Reading
https://wildanm.wordpress.com/2007/08/21/mdev-mini-udev-in-busybox/ ,
mdev seems to be a part of Busybox. I heard it through th
uch
faster/cleaner for humans.
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Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 05, 2016 at 03:15:24PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > And the preceding system is human readable, human parsable, and to a
> > degree human creatable. But...
> >
> > Human creatable is relative. Ye
On Sat, 6 Aug 2016 17:12:14 -0400
Brian Nash wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 02:36:06PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> >The last two items on the preceding list are why deployment is so
> >problematic. On my system, each of my 237 submenus requires its
> >own .mnu (menu des
pervisor. If I had a couple
months with nothing else to do, I could write a supervisor. I'd need
more than a year to write software that loads and maintains all
devices, and might not be able to do it at all.
Also, Skarnet is in the business of supervisors, that's what they do.
That&
uation
into a filename?
When the dust finally settles, if necessary one of us can write a ls
substitute that does the right thing, whatever that turns out to be.
We have much bigger fish to fry right now.
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On Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:00:48 +0800
Brad Campbell wrote:
> Just for the record, so does KVM if you turn on ksm. It actually
> works very well for a free solution.
I use Qemu all the time, with hardware assist. How would I turn on ksm?
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. . I would prefer to use the systemd-supplied components
> (systemd-boot, systemd-networkd, systemd-resolved, etc) wherever
> available as I believe this offers a more cohesive, UNIX-like working
> environment."
Brings back memories of reading "1984".
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things."
Sometimes a good, prophylactic fresh install is just what's needed.
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and anything else you can
do to keep your computer's time in check, because there's something
about you...
:-)
By the way, I had to fire up my time machine to read this, because you
haven't sent it yet.
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from it. But for reasons stated
in my previous two paragraphs, I think moving our target from vdev to
eudev would be a bad idea.
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the same box at the same time. This coexistance would also
require the directories containing the actual daemon supervising files
to be distinctive of their init systems:
Perhaps /etc/sv/s6, /etc/sv/runit, and /etc/sv/dtencore.
The preceding six paragraphs are based on 10 minutes thought: They&#x
On Fri, 12 Aug 2016 20:34:07 +0200
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Steve Litt [2016-08-12 19:47]:
>
> > I don't understand. Do you perhaps mean that sysvinit is PID1, and
> > you use runit strictly as a process supervisor? The reason I ask
> > this is, whatever acts as
sion.
>
> Please fix this.
LOL, until he fixes it, here's what I did...
:0:
* ^From.*aitor_...@gnuinos.org
* ^(To|Cc).*dng@lists.dyne.org
.dng.badformat/
It's the best of both worlds. I get to read his stuff, but it doesn't
confusingly intermix with everybody else's
On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 02:24:14 -0400
Steve Litt wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 00:22:43 -0400 (EDT)
> Peter Olson wrote:
>
> > > On August 13, 2016 at 4:45 AM aitor_czr
> > > wrote:
> >
> > As you know, today is August 12, not August 13.
d.
And when Red Hat buys maintainership of eudev?
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in the boot just after the network comes up, and run respawning ntpd
some time after.
Or buy another computer.
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nce of Systemd? I have. Trouble is, I don't have enough money to
make my project capable of winning a fork.
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Didier Kryn wrote:
> Le 13/08/2016 19:41, Steve Litt a écrit :
> > On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:12:04 -0400
> > "Ismael L. Donis Garcia" wrote:
> >
> >
> >> To my mind would be a better option to opt for eudev t
s eno1 down.
Crude, but VERY effective, and if you use the new ip commands, it works
on every distro, even (urk) systemd distros.
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hing DNS. I *could* create a package made out
of djb's source code (which almost certainly won't change anymore) and
my shellscripts to easily lay down a djbdns, fully configured. I think
there's a patch to make djbdns work with ipv6, so my version2 could do
that.
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it does 'unmaintained'.
Did I just hear someone mention Fetchmail?
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any way of telling
dnscache "use this root server if at all possible?"
My idea, if it's possible, would be a way to have the office-wide
caching and world resource conservation of a LAN level resolver, but
still have a complete and capable host
ldapdns, NSD, rbdldnsd, and YADIFA do not
> themselves cache data.
Which of the preceding is most like a djbdns that does ipv6?
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works
perfectly in Devuan.
And thanks for all the suggestions in the discussion about UMENU2!
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f my opponents are
playing by the rules.
Or, as one of the characters in "Lucifer's Hammer" says toward the end
of the book, "A society adopts the ethics they can afford."
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 14:06:24 -0400
fsmithred wrote:
> For anyone who's interested in the results before they got wiped,
I just voted again, "ready to use" again. I'm able to vote multiple
times because I'm originally from Chicago.
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On Fri, 19 Aug 2016 12:53:18 -0700
Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com):
>
> > I just voted again, "ready to use" again. I'm able to vote multiple
> > times because I'm originally from Chicago.
>
> I was able to vote
ing Python 3 instead
of just plain Python be resented by those of us wanting minimal
dependencies?
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On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 07:50:49 +0200
Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 21, 2016 at 03:51:15PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> > On 21/08/16 15:19, Steve Litt wrote:
> > > Are there still people who have ONLY Python 2.x installed on their
> > > computers, witho
On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:34:17 -0400
fsmithred wrote:
> On 08/21/2016 02:57 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> >> What do you mean by "default"? There is no default (other than
> >> between versions of python 2 and between versions of python 3),
> >> these tw
On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 12:13:40 -0400
fsmithred wrote:
> On 08/21/2016 11:34 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Sun, 21 Aug 2016 09:34:17 -0400
> > fsmithred wrote:
> >
> >> On 08/21/2016 02:57 AM, Steve Litt wrote:
> >>
> >>>> What do y
On Mon, 22 Aug 2016 18:27:58 + (UTC)
Go Linux wrote:
> Looks like the second poll has ended. There's a new one up today and
> voting is no longer an option. Here are the final results:
>
> Poll results for: The state of Devuan
>
> I have tried Devuan and it is ready to use: 95 (27%)
> I
es, I
> still hang out there to advocate for non-systemd Linux. S/he posted
> this link which finally pushed them over the edge and away from the
> path that Debian has taken:
>
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-May/019657.html
Oh, he's r
On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 23:01:20 + (UTC)
Go Linux wrote:
> On Tue, 8/23/16, Steve Litt wrote:
> >> I agree that relying on anything connected to udev will likely not
> >> be sustainable in the long term. I was reminded of this just
> >> today in a private disc
. It's our job to get out the word so
bus1 fares no better than kdbus, because Lennart bragged about his
plans when he gets the kernel to enforce use of systemd.
What is the best way of getting the word out?
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estrictive. Expat's similar to some MIT and BSD licenses
and the X11 license.
Any opinions on which to choose?
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Peter Olson wrote:
> > On August 24, 2016 at 1:20 AM Steve Litt
> > wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > A couple notes: The above Expat URL says Expat license is GPL
> > compatible. I don't like GPLv3 because it'
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 11:37:53 +0800
Brad Campbell wrote:
> On 24/08/16 11:13, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Tue, 23 Aug 2016 21:47:41 -0400
> > Clarke Sideroad wrote:
> >
> >> I think kdbus is dead due to the bad press, but I believe there is
> >> bus1 c
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 09:29:00 +0100
KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 01:43:25AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> > On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 01:31:18 -0400 (EDT)
> > Peter Olson wrote:
> >
>
> [cut]
>
> > > What complication don't you like about GPLv3
On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 17:26:49 +0200
Svante Signell wrote:
> On Wed, 2016-08-24 at 09:32 -0500, Jim Murphy wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Steve Litt
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Any opinions on which to choose?
> > Don't know if this woul
ry single person who
ever inserted a line of code.
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opped to think what Redhat
would have done had the Linux kernel been licensed Expat. That started
me once again strongly considering copyleft.
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lease feel free to get back to me with questions and comments,
either onlist or offlist, and I'll quickly get back to you.
Hope you like it, and don't hesitate to get back to me about it.
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Hi all,
Now UMENU2 has more than a beta tarball, it has a website.
http://troubleshooters.com/projects/umenu2/
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or whatever, and how that alone is enough reason to use systemd,
and yet these same monuments to modern software proclaim their
multiseat, terminal-enabling technology is a reason to switch to
systemd, even though terminals had their heyday in 1984. Talk about
grey
out 18 months ago, and it's excellent.
So, if you refuse to use systemd, but you're not a huge fan of sysvinit
either, then if OpenRC doesn't attract you with specific features,
initting with runit or Epoch might be easier for you to achieve.
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-dependency servers[5][6]
>
> OOTB support for Samba and NFS (along with being Devuan
> default) will definitely win users.
The preceding list looks a heck of a lot like the exact feature list of
systemd. What a feather in our cap if that turns out to be true.
As far as OpenRC's
ing it doesn't uninstall the other init systems
installed on the machine.
By the way, s6 and s6-rc appear to be undergoing some pretty heavy
development. Their documentation pages include much more than they did
a year ago.
http://skarnet.org/softwar
ceding architecture in Manjaro-OpenRC, and it
worked. Regardless of your "init system", it's always an asset to
control your own process supervisor.
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> Nobody supervises pid1, OK? So why would the supervisor need to
> be supervised? It is supposed to be rock solid. Note that it can be
> barely relaunched by sysvinit in the same way as getty.
I can answer that. There are a lot of architectures in which the
supervisor isn't p
ty of
situations. They're more trackable via ps axjf. With supervisors, you
don't need to deal with PID files. And, perhaps coolest of all, if
you're running processes off a supervisor, you can make your own daemon
simply by writing a program that runs in the foreground, and the
superv
On Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:17:52 -0400
Rob Owens wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Steve Litt
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Does OpenRC do the conditional starts?
>
>
> Yes, it does. See "The depend function" here:
> http://www.funtoo.org/Package:O
27;m simply pointing out that supervision systems have some major
conveniences on both desktops and servers, and that these conveniences
widen their appeal beyond helpless admins and 0.0001% of users.
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any kind of GUI Linux system without dbus, tell us
about it.
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strace to init with
Not at all unlikely if he's initting with something other than
sysvinit. The thing called /sbin/init could be the pid1 for runit, s6,
sysvinit, epoch, or who knows what else.
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h
ok around and watch the hilarious
> Ethereum fork story that unfolded this summer. In fact, we can just
> *propose ways*, and some people will understand and participate, and
> some will prefer keeping using what's there *and there is no problem
> at all with that*. We live in a com
licably cause a fuse to blow in the kitchen."
BANG!
I understand Redhat's and Poetterpuff's motivation, but why is this
concept so hard for Debianistas and Linux people in general to
understand?
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SYSLINUX could
be used to boot MBR systems with simple-mount root partitions, followed
by RAID/ENCRIPTION/LVM on various mounted filesystems.
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Dave Turner wrote:
> My nice new uefi laptop has grub2 and runs debian sid.
How new? Is it Win10 certified? How difficult was it to turn off secure
boot?
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phy can both simultaneously be happy.
List of such bootloaders, please?
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le for a "downstream" to keep alsa
compatibility, I think Devuan's people would need to do it.
And of course there's Palemoon.
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Jaromil wrote:
> BTW I use pulse-audio in Devuan (needed for Skype) without any
> problems (and without systemd)
You can use apulse instead.
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On Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:19:42 -0500
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> * On 2016 02 Oct 11:14 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > In the following essay, search for the first occurrance of the word
> > "fragility". Then read the paragraph containing it
ive
to get to, the poorly sighted person will not have the visual acuity to
navigate the standard theme enough to make their computer legible.
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so it can be restored when an upgrade blows it away? Can Plop be used
with a modern UEFI-only computer? (One can hope)?
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making, in
order to fix problems baked in by five generations of yearlings. Think
of the user interface possibilities when you throw away all knowledge
and make something brand new.
Don't trust anyone over thirty!
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factory direct, untweaked clearlooks? That
might be a good place to start.
And I'll need your help on this, because I don't know which files and
variables change which properties. I'll just ask you on #debianfork.
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SteveT
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7;t know what this
cultural reference was about.
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ed release. Void's rolling release has been good to me so far, but if
it ever starts getting twitchy like Manjaro (or perhaps moreso like the
*too's), it's good to know there's still a fixed release sans-systemd.
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