Re: [DNG] Red Hat ends KDE support

2018-11-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
ake > to Debian. Good advice! I did the same, then to Devuan, but now am considering PCLinuxOS; I do miss all the Drake* tools ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- There is no branch of mathematics, however abstract, which may not some day be applied to phenomena

Re: [DNG] Repent! [Re: No spaces between menus in XFCE terminal.]

2018-09-02 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Sun, 2 Sep 2018 03:59:47 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > >>   Thou shalt be flogged for uttering this  blasphemy! > > De gustibus non est disputanum. >   Thou shalt have no other theme than DarkPurpy! And me thinking Linux was all about user's freedom of choice.

Re: [DNG] Unbound details: was Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-08-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
d from Mandrake / Mandriva / Mageia. Cheers, Ron. -- The magic of our first love is our ignorance that it can ever end. -- Benjamin Disraeli --

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

2018-08-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Tue, 21 Aug 2018 23:07:46 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > 1. If you have alsamixer installed, see if anything is muted. Or in pavucontrol Cheers, Ron. -- The magic of our first love is our ignorance that it can ever

Re: [DNG] I'm not going to respond to messages like that.

2018-07-27 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 23:06:59 -0700 Rick Moen wrote: > 'The failure mode of clever is "asshole."' This is a family list; so: 'The failure mode of clever is "orifice".' Cheers, Ron. -- The most exciting phrase to hear in science, t

[DNG] An eudev oddity ?

2018-07-27 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
pened, etc. Is the normal ? How can I format it so it is no longer "seen" as /dev/sdi ? Cheers, Ron. -- The business of the law was not the discovery of the truth, but the imposition of the power of the state upon its citizens. --

Re: [DNG] Web browser needed

2018-07-13 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
ty, and note carefully what cipher gets negotiated and > any problems observed. https://www.madboa.com/geek/openssl/ has a basic > guide. Thank you for the advice. Cheers, Ron. -- When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

[DNG] Web browser needed

2018-07-13 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
ete blockage ? And is there a way around it ? Cheers, Ron. -- True friends stab you in the front. -- Oscar Wilde -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org --

Re: [DNG] [OT] vivivi

2018-07-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:34:35 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > So the only inequivocally remaining received gospel is that Emacs is the > Only True and Holy Editor. Heretic ! True Believers worship at the Shrine of VI... Cheers, Ron. -- La marine est un art, une science,

Re: [DNG] Troll Alert Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 13:19:40 +0200 Antony Stone wrote: > Thank $deity for that. Whoever He or She is, should not we accord Him or Her the civility of an upper-wase variable name as $DEITY ? ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- A good question is never answe

Re: [DNG] One week into Devuan 2.0 ASCII -- Some stats

2018-06-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
gested would help. A warning message at boot time, that the computer is 64-capable and the user might want to change his choice of iso ? Cheers, Ron. -- Il faut se garder de donner un nom aux choses: Tant qu'elles n'en ont pas, elles n'existent pas, ou elles exis

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2018-06-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Mon, 28 Aug 2017 22:16:10 +0200 "J. Fahrner" wrote: > Bunsenlab has also a GUI program for adjusting fonts for Gtk. Where can one find it ? Cheers, Ron. -- Gli nomini si debbano o vezzeggiate o peguere; perche' si vendiciano delle le

Re: [DNG] ascii 2.0 installation confused by mount points

2018-06-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Sun, 10 Jun 2018 12:45:36 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > > Just have to keep a post-it on the monitor, to remind you which HD has > > what ;-3) > I actually keep a small sticky label on the drive itself. ;) Might not be very useful at boot time ;-3)

Re: [DNG] ascii 2.0 installation confused by mount points

2018-06-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
a post-it on the monitor, to remind you which HD has what ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- Dieu créa l'homme, et ne le trouvant pas assez seul, il lui donna une compagne pour lui faire mieux sentir sa solitude.

Re: [DNG] ascii 2.0 installation confused by mount points

2018-06-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
. Cheers, Ron. -- All true wisdom is found in sig-files. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin

Re: [DNG] broken PDF display

2018-03-26 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Sat, 24 Mar 2018 10:09:02 + KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > Just to say: no problems over here with either zathura, xpdf, or mupdf > on ASCII. But my pdf files are not that fancy, TBH :) Here under Jessie, mupdf displays correctly, but xpdf does not. C

Re: [DNG] broken PDF display

2018-03-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
Printing the PDF has same result as its display. I have noticed the same behaviour in recent days, but while the .pdf files do not display properly in evince or pdfshuffler, they do in gv. Cheers, Ron. -- The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all those who ma

Re: [DNG] firmware missing in live iso

2018-03-14 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
, was trying with a Debian iso. And the Debian logo did not register, as I see it under Devuan every time I log in... Cheers, Ron. -- Here is to the Council of Trent who put fasting on the meat, and not

[DNG] firmware missing in live iso

2018-03-14 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
no wireless network, with the indication "device not ready (firmware missing)". And of course, I cannot get the firmware without a network connection. An oversight ? Cheers, Ron. -- Toddlers are the stormtroopers of the Lord

Re: [DNG] udev completely F-e'd up ?

2018-02-19 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
ou: it did hold a gpt, which I got rid of with the g option in gdisk (expert mode). Is there a way to banish gpt from my box, to avoid future annoyance ? Cheers, Ron. -- Eschew Eschaton Immanentization. -- htt

Re: [DNG] udev completely F-e'd up ?

2018-02-19 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Mon, 19 Feb 2018 13:17:43 -0300 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > Since upgrading from Debian Wheezy to Devuan Jessie, I have been having > problems with USB drives, unable to mount them unless as root, and seeing > strange thi

[DNG] udev completely F-e'd up ?

2018-02-19 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
with gparted, I get two entries in the places list of Pcmanfm, one as sdi which, when clicked on, shows me the former content of the drive, and when I choose sdi1 shows me the new content. Lates madness is as follows: root@ron:/home/ron # df Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted

Re: [DNG] ASCII Beta: too much love? :P

2018-02-14 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
best way to get ASCII beta images as soon as > possible is to back off for a few hours, let the (many) mirrors use > the availale bandwidth to sync as fast as they can, and then download > the images from one of the mirrors listed at http://www.devuan.org Why not offer a Bitt

[DNG] Log-out instead of screen-saver ?

2018-01-15 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
Would it be possible to configure the system so that after a set time of inactivity, it logs-out the user instead of activating a screen saver ? Cheers, Ron. -- Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public

[DNG] Any idea

2018-01-08 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
when ASCII will be declared stable ? Is it a question of weeks ? months ? Cheers, Ron. -- To our sweethearts and wives: May they never meet. -- 19th century toast

Re: [DNG] Meltdown and linux kernel KPTI patch

2018-01-05 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
rocessors are > also affected by Meltdown." > and AMD wrote: > https://www.amd.com/en/corporate/speculative-execution > "Zero AMD vulnerability due to AMD architecture differences." ISTR that AMDs are not affected by Meltdown, but affected by Spectre Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] Happy New Year!

2018-01-01 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
t for a young (female) Devuana... Cheers, Ron. -- Hearts will never be practical until they can be made unbreakable. -- The Wizard of Oz -- http://www.o

Re: [DNG] URL - The importance of Devuan

2017-12-12 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 19:50:56 +0100 Antony Stone <antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it> wrote: > > Oh, come on. Have some sense of humour! Didn't you see the sarcasm in > > my comment? > > Email is a notoriously bad medium for conveying tone of voice. so next time use

Re: [DNG] Text editor ?

2017-12-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 04:43:30 -0300 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > Thank you; sadly this is not offered in Devuan Jessie ;-3( Please ignore: Synaptic could not find it, but apt-get did. Cheers, Ron. -- The meas

Re: [DNG] Text editor ?

2017-12-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Mon, 11 Dec 2017 08:04:34 +0100 "J. Fahrner" <j...@fahrner.name> wrote: > > Thanks, I should have been more precise: one with a GUI. > > My favourite GUI text editor is Geany. Thank you; sadly this is not offered in Devuan Jessie ;-3( Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] Text editor ?

2017-12-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
a GUI. Cheers, Ron. -- This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it or their revolutionary right to dismemb

[DNG] Text editor ?

2017-12-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
Is there in Devuan a text editor that will do find/replace on a regexp ? Cheers, Ron. -- This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing Government, they can exercise their constitutional right

Re: [DNG] Cron / Anacron

2017-12-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
nacrontab. I dont want to remove the jobs presently done by Anacron, but have them done by Cron at a suitable time. Will that happen if I disable Anacron ? Cheers, Ron. -- Distrust all those who love you extremely upon a very slight acquaintance

Re: [DNG] Cron / Anacron

2017-12-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
anacron package. Thanks. Cheers, Ron. -- We are drowning in information but starved for knowledge. -- John Naisbitt -- http://www

[DNG] Cron / Anacron

2017-12-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
hours of the night for instance ? Cheers, Ron. -- Auntie Em: Hate you. Hate Kansas. Taking the dog. Dorothy

Re: [DNG] Decent GUI FTP client for linux (not filezilla)

2017-12-06 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
m looking for one with a decent gui, ideas? Thanks Have you tried gFTP ? Cheers, Ron. -- Kilroe hic erat! -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng mailin

Re: [DNG] netiquette Was: Re: Installing & running eudev broke USB drives auto-listing in Thunar.

2017-12-02 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
w, I just couldn't wait any longer. Regarding technicalities we are > > speaking about he is fully aware. > > Fix your own mail reader before you complain about how others quote. It > still doesn't generate RFC 3676-compliant quotations. How about taking that discussion to the Hair-s

Re: [DNG] Different philosophies (OT)

2017-11-10 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
uld cause the compil to abend with a 0C7, 0CA or 0CC Exception code... Cheers, Ron. -- If you can tell the difference between good advice and bad advice, you really don't ne

Re: [DNG] systemd-udevd: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1

2017-10-07 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
possibility of having somewhere a config option: "Do you want fixed NIC names or do you want them renamed whenever changed/moved ?" Cheers, Ron. -- Do not trust atoms: They make up everything !

[DNG] Life under Devuan is impossible.

2017-10-07 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
not write; Gparted will create a partition table, when trying to create a partition gives me first an error "Daemon is inhibited", then fails to create the new FAT32 ffile system. Is there a way to move from Devuan Jessie to Debian Jessie without catching the systemd p

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
and in tty Cheers, Ron. -- Anyone who goes to a psychiatrist ought to have his head examined. -- Samuel Goldwyn -- http://www.olgiati-in-

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
sktop.udisks2.filesystem-mount;org.freedesktop.udisks2.encrypted-unlock;org.freedesktop.udisks2.eject-media;org.freedesktop.udisks2.power-off-drive ResultAny=yes in it, and added the user to the plugdev group. Sadly, no change after a reboot... Cheers, Ron. -- If God didn't wa

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:50:31 + Miroslav Rovis <miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr> wrote: > Useful. But in which file do you stick it, you didn't say? ~/.bashrc ? I stick the root ones in the relevant /root/.bashrc, and in ~/.bashrc for the user. Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
a warning when you log in as root in an X session, and also when you log in in a tty. Cheers, Ron. -- When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained. -- Mark Twain

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-23 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
S1='\n\[\033[1;34m\]\u@\h:\w \$ \[\033[0m\]' in the various .ashrc to the colour you want/need. Been using that for years, never had a problem. Cheers, Ron. -- A real patriot is the fellow who gets a parking ticket

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:09:21 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > Did you log out and back in after making the change? I did, no change. Cheers, Ron. -- Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017 16:52:56 -0400 "Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI" <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > > groups did not help; alas > > Thanks, butt adding my user to the plugdev Read: Thanks, but adding my user to the plugdev group did not help

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
. Lucky I learned this morning how to launch > > a prog as root from the CLI.. > > Why did the configuration change ? > > How can I restore it ? > I think it might just be associations of your user to groups, e.g., > groups did not help; alas....

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
cal home directory. OTOH, having done nothing to configure ssh, I have ssh -X working perfectly, allowing me to run on my desktop a pcmanfm to manage files on the remote box. Cheers, Ron. -- One way to make your old car run better

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
after a Debian==>Devuan upgrade ? > So far it does work in one of my VM's when I connect a pendrive to the > VM it is automounted. What is your exact configuration? May be i can > find the reason by building a VM for it. No in a VM, just a recent upgrade from Debian W

Re: [DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
access them. > I had similar issues some time ago and switched to spacefm with udevil. > That solved it for me. This is a serious problem: how can I sell Devuan to users if they cannot access their pendrives after a Debian==>Devuan upgrade ? Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
launch it from the GUI, maybe, but not when launched from the CLI. Cheers, Ron. -- A nation of sheep will beget a government of wolves. -- Edward R. Murrow -- http://www.olgiati-

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-22 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
I know it _did_ work. For many years.. Cheers, Ron. -- You must realize that the computer has it in for you. The irrefutable proof of this is that the computer always does what you tell it to do.

[DNG] And another new behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
ion change ? How can I restore it ? Cheers, Ron. -- It is inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians. -- He

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017 19:43:54 +0100 Dave Turner <dave_t_tur...@barradas.free-online.co.uk> wrote: > Also, 'su' is just wrong, don't use it, always use sudo, If I wanted to always use sudo I would be running *ubuntu... Cheers, Ron. -- No one can make you feel inferior wit

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
t an exception. Anything against having `xhost +` in ~/.bashrc ? Cheers, Ron. -- Any stigma, as the old saying is, will serve to beat a dogma. -- Philip Guedalla

Re: [DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
aged. OK ta, I'll look for a different one. Cheers, Ron. -- Any stigma, as the old saying is, will serve to beat a dogma. -- Philip Guedalla -- http:/

[DNG] New behaviour under Devuan.

2017-09-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
Under Debian, I could su to root in a console, and launch gparted from the CLI. Now, I get: ron@ron:~/Desktop $ su Password: No protocol specified xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0' No protocol specified xmodmap: unable to open display ':0.0' No protocol specified xmodmap: unable to open

[DNG] GUIs font sizes

2017-09-21 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
those prog fonts great again ? Cheers, Ron. -- Nothing is impossible for the man who doesn't have to do it himself. -- A.H. Weiler -- http://www.olgiati

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 13:35:42 +0200 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: > And yeah, an analogy that makes systemd a disease is fitting... I know, been refering to it for ages as a pox... Cheers, Ron. -- Withholding information is the essence of tyranny.

Re: [DNG] Why all this systemd stuff ?

2017-09-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
a priori that the snake is toothless ? Cheers, Ron. -- Sodd's Second Law: Sooner or later, the worst possible set of circumstances is bound to occur. -- http://www

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:50:55 +0200 Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote: > I prefer the best (for me) of all worlds: No Systemd, but Yes Gnome. Which is like wanting unprotected sex, but without sexually transmitted diseases... Cheers, Ron. -- Sodd's S

Re: [DNG] Why all this systemd stuff ?

2017-09-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:29:08 +0100 KatolaZ <kato...@freaknet.org> wrote: > Have you tried to install any of them? No, I did not; I do not either try to poke rattlesnakes with a stick Cheers, Ron. -- In order to rally people, governments need enemies. The

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
hich have Gnome in their name. So go ahead, install Gnome, and go in peace... Cheers, Ron. -- In order to rally people, governments need enemies. They want us to be afraid, to hate, so we will rally behind them. And if they do not h

[DNG] Why all this systemd stuff ?

2017-09-20 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
] libsystemd0/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64 live-config-systemd/stable 4.0.4-1 all python3-systemd/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64 systemd-cron/stable 1.3.1+ds1-2 all systemd-dbg/stable 215-17+deb8u7 amd64 systemd-gui/stable 1:3-2 all systemd-shim/stable 9-1 amd64 systemd-ui/stable 3-2 amd64 Cheers, Ron

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-19 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
What does Gnome offer, that XFCE lacks ? Cheers, Ron. -- Democracy is also a form of worship. It is the worship of Jackals by Jackasses. -- H. L. Mencken

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-19 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
On Tue, 19 Sep 2017 15:00:22 +0200 Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote: > 3. Why not? Because all recent versions of Gnome are infected with the systemd pox. Cheers, Ron. -- A society that puts equality over freedom will not get any

[DNG] Upgrade to Devuan done.

2017-09-18 Thread Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI
Two niggles: Is there a way to get rid of, or disable, keyring ? could not find the package that provides it. When I launch EasyABC, which worked under Wheezy this morning, I now get: ron@ron:~/Desktop $ easyabc Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/easyabc/easy_abc.py&q

Re: [DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Ron
Finally taking the plunge, and upgrading following Dev1fanboy's howto on https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/Upgrade-to-Devuan Cheers, Ron. -- My karma just ran over your dogma. -- http

[DNG] What if...

2017-09-18 Thread Ron
...I upgrade my Debian Wheezy LTS to Devuan Jessie ? What happens then to those packages I need/use which are not in the Devuan repositories ? Will the older versions still run ? Or will the upgrade remove them ? Or, if they have no systemd dependencies, can I install the Debian Jessie

Re: [DNG] Gnome?

2017-09-18 Thread Ron
On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:02:37 +0200 Narcis Garcia <informat...@actiu.net> wrote: > Is there some published procedure to install Gnome in Devuan 8/9 ? > > I need this to migrate desktop users from Debian & Ubuntu. For a recent version of Gnome: 1- Install systemd ...

Re: [DNG] Which desktops are available in Devuan?

2017-08-28 Thread Ron
what to run from the CLI ? Cheers, Ron. -- America may be unique in being a country which has leapt from barbarism to decadence without touching civilization. -- John O'Hara

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Ron
> Oh dear, were they really *short*? Jeez, how happy I am not to have lived > in those awful times! All those adjectives, which come from a quote of Thomas Hobbes (1588 – 1679) refer not to people, but to their lives in preceding ages... Cheers, Ron. -- Gli nomini si de

Re: [DNG] new behaviour of /dev

2017-08-23 Thread Ron
ven before the steam engine was invented. 'solitary, poor, nasty, brutish, and short' come to mind Cheers, Ron. -- It is inexcusable for scientists to torture animals; let them make their experiments on journalists and politicians.

Re: [DNG] Proposed change in behaviour for ascii: eudev net.ifnames logic reversing proposal

2017-08-21 Thread Ron
t; replied that happily he could do anything for his daughter he wished on > his _own_ systems, but that his daughter wouldn't be plugging USB > devices into my servers, so I wasn't especially interested in helping > her there. I forgot to precise that the three USBtoRJ4

Re: [DNG] Proposed change in behaviour for ascii: eudev net.ifnames logic reversing proposal

2017-08-21 Thread Ron
al times a week. In around ten years of use I have never had the problem of USB/NIC assignment changing at reboot, except when I had to replace a burnt-out USBtoRJ45 ;-3( Cheers, Ron. -- To succeed, planning alone is insufficient. One must im

Re: [DNG] Proposed change in behaviour for ascii: eudev net.ifnames logic reversing proposal

2017-08-20 Thread Ron
re buggered... Cheers, Ron. -- All that is necessary for the forces of evil to triumph is for enough good men to do nothing. -- Edmund Burke -- http:/

Re: [DNG] Proposed change in behaviour for ascii: eudev net.ifnames logic reversing proposal

2017-08-20 Thread Ron
On Mon, 21 Aug 2017 01:38:00 +1200 Daniel Reurich <dan...@centurion.net.nz> wrote: > It implies > having "net.ifnames=1" in the kernel cmdline to get the "enp0s3"-like > scheme and not touching anything to get the "eth0" scheme. +1 Cheers, Ron.

Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements" (OT)

2017-08-11 Thread Ron
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 19:35:55 +0200 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: > And they had no souls even late in Gnome2 days, > before systemd was even a glimmer in Lennart's eye. which probably made it easier for the Evil One to take them under his thrall... C

Re: [DNG] GNOME usability "improvements"

2017-08-11 Thread Ron
On Fri, 11 Aug 2017 18:24:31 +0200 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: > It really makes me wonder why any distribution still even ships Gnome, much > less has it as the default. Could it be because Gnome have sold their immortal souls to Systemd ? Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] Yes I am an attorney. - Re: Identity of OP (Software written by contractors and the 'work for hire') concept - To Bruce Perens

2017-08-01 Thread Ron
he not take a hint ? The first thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers. -- Wm. Shakespeare Cheers, Ron. -- Linux: want to know why my computer works. Macs: don't want to know why my computer works. DO

Re: [DNG] High level language primitives [ was Please keep 32-bits alive]

2017-07-29 Thread Ron
ideal world, software would have *no* bugs ;-) > > > - easy maintainability > > - fast development > > - what else? > > Software would be Free as in freedom. Documentation ? Cheers, Ron. -- The difference between science and the fuzz

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-23 Thread Ron
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 16:44:40 +0200 Adam Borowski <kilob...@angband.pl> wrote: > Current parts you get from electronish rubbish are some i5 models, or Core > Duo if your rubbish pool is that old. Remember, I live in Darkest Paraguay, our technorubbish is not all that advanced... C

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-23 Thread Ron
ost: my time... Cheers, Ron. -- You can make it illegal, but you can't make it unpopular. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng mail

Re: [DNG] [Desktop-Environment] Cinnamon and MATE

2017-07-23 Thread Ron
intage EeePC, an the firewall for the house LAN is a Pentium II running IPCop. Is it a coincidence that my three cars are a 1997 Citroën Berlingo, a 1979 Mercedes W123 300D, and a 1971 Cotroën 2CV, not to mention a 1981 250ES MZ m/c ? Cheers, Ron. -- When I am working on a problem, I never

Re: [DNG] Devuan Constitution and Social Contract WAS: Sexual politics and society

2017-07-19 Thread Ron
People, Please stop replying, just apply the Del key. Because unless the list gnomes apply the cluestick (or worse), nothing will stop those who want to continue with their OT rants, self-righteously claiming they can do so because someone else also did. Cheers, Ron

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Ron
to use a delete button. My experience on other highly technical lists (Model Engineering, Steam railways, etc is that we get those OT threads from time to time, mainly when a list is slow-moving, and they resolve themselves very quickly when on-topic posts come back in higher numbers. Cheers,

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-16 Thread Ron
he accuracy. Sad to say, but why would you read a translation into Latin when you can read one int French or English ? Cheers, Ron. -- News is the mother of opinion, opinion the cause of mass-delusion, delusion the s

Re: [DNG] Forums: was I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-07-15 Thread Ron
ely, > the same sentiment in _good_ Latin is opaque to my countrymen who aren't > Latin-proficient, which would impair the joke.) Forsan et haec olim meminisse iuvabit... ;-3) Ave atque vale, Ron. -- -- http://www.ol

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-02 Thread Ron
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 18:36:40 -0500 Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote: > > > fate accompli > > "Fate" > > is very apposite in the circumstance > One misspell and a person's reputation is shot forever! > :-) And me thinking it

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-07-01 Thread Ron
On Sat, 1 Jul 2017 10:25:20 -0500 Nate Bargmann <n...@n0nb.us> wrote: > fate accompli "Fate" is very apposite in the circumstance Cheers, Ron. -- It is a typically Hohenzollern idea to believe that it is a crime for a country to defend itself after its army

Re: [DNG] systemd: good riddance!

2017-06-30 Thread Ron
ted-sun-tzu-art-of-war-quotes/ Cheers, Ron. -- An ignorant person is one who doesn't know what you have just found out. -- Will Rogers -- htt

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-21 Thread Ron
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 09:32:52 -0400 Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI <ren...@olgiati-in-paraguay.org> wrote: > > 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla". > Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war; > re-read Hans Hellmut Kirst. S

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-21 Thread Ron
On Wed, 21 Jun 2017 13:21:17 + rain...@wiwi.uni-frankfurt.de wrote: > 08/15 is a common german expression for "plain vanilla". Reference to the 08/15 rifle still in use during the second world war; re-read Hans Hellmut Kirst. Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] I have a question about libsystemd0 in devuan ascii,

2017-06-17 Thread Ron
purity. Debuan is > built to protect your choices, not to rule some of them out for political > rather than technical causes. The only interesting information would be: "Is it possible to install and run Gnome without having installed systemd ?" Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Ron
On Sat, 27 May 2017 23:04:13 +0200 info at smallinnovations dot nl <i...@smallinnovations.nl> wrote: > Nice if you missed it otherwise annoying. Thunar puts deleted files > there, at least on my system with XFCE4 it does. One more reason to drop Thunar and use Pcmanfm ;-3) C

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Ron
On Sun, 28 May 2017 09:17:05 -0400 Hendrik Boom <hend...@topoi.pooq.com> wrote: > The only one I have an idea what it's for is sane-utils. Presumably > access to scanners. I believe that one is for accessing the scanner over a network. Cheers, Ron. --

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-28 Thread Ron
Cheers, Ron. -- If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something. -- http://www.olgiati-in-paraguay.org -- ___ Dng mailing

Re: [DNG] trash

2017-05-27 Thread Ron
> decides to move a file there when you say to delete it): > > $ chmod 000 ~/.local/share/Trash > > (If that doesn't work, get a bigger hammer and set it immutable. ;-> ) Or ln to /dev/null Cheers, Ron. -- What really flatters a man

Re: [DNG] My buddy told me there's an idiot born every minute

2017-04-24 Thread Ron
tandard deviations away from the mean, this gives us 5.6 idiots born every minute ;-3) Cheers, Ron. -- A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn. -- http://www.olgia

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