Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session - resolved

On 04/27/2018 02:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] > Not mentioned is which WM/DE is being used. Some WM/DEs are a crash > waiting to happen. Why not temporarily use LXDE, and see whether that > effects the frequency of the hang. If so, determine what about your > former WM/DE was causing the

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

Am Freitag 27 April 2018 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > Am 27. April 2018 15:27:46 MESZ schrieb Stefan Krusche : > > It's the default for the default distribution you are using, I think. > > You can change that in /etc/apt/preference with pinning. > > Yeah, thanks - I was

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

Am 27. April 2018 15:13:28 MESZ schrieb KatolaZ : > it's determined in the repo config, and apt acquires this in formation > from the Release files. In particular, if the following fields are > present in the Release file of a suite: > > NotAutomatic: yes >

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

Am 27. April 2018 15:27:46 MESZ schrieb Stefan Krusche : > It's the default for the default distribution you are using, I think. > You can change that in /etc/apt/preference with pinning. Yeah, thanks - I was just wondering where this default is defined, if not in

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

Am Freitag 27 April 2018 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > obviously I hit "send" too fast, as I couldn't find that configuration > anywhere under "/etc/apt/". Where is this behavior defined, resp. how > would I change it? (Just in case...) It's the default for the default distribution you are using, I

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 02:24:36PM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:13:15 +0200 > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:07:02 +0100 > > KatolaZ wrote: > > > > > > > > Pinning should not be needed any more, since the

[DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session - update

On 04/27/2018 02:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote: [snip] First thing I'd do is test the RAM and the disk. Easy to do, and it would be real shame to chase your video driver tail for a month when it was bad RAM. I'm pretty sure bad RAM can cause almost anything: Why not rule it out early. [snip] Thanks

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 14:13:15 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:07:02 +0100 > KatolaZ wrote: > > > > > Pinning should not be needed any more, since the *-backports suites > > are at prio 100 by default (it was not like that in the

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:31:43 +0200 Florian Zieboll wrote: > If you really want to have the "backports" version, in the worst case, > you'll have to specify the needed version for every package in the > dependency chain (...) Hallo Lars, in the meantime i remembered that

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 10:07:02 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:31:43AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:05:41 +0300 > > Lars Noodén wrote: > > > [...] > > > > Not sure if you are aware that your

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Fri, Apr 27, 2018 at 10:31:43AM +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:05:41 +0300 > Lars Noodén wrote: > > > # apt-cache show nvidia-driver-bin | head -n 3 > > Package: nvidia-driver-bin > > Source: nvidia-graphics-drivers > > Version:

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:05:41 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > # apt-cache show nvidia-driver-bin | head -n 3 > Package: nvidia-driver-bin > Source: nvidia-graphics-drivers > Version: 390.48-2~bpo9+1 Not sure if you are aware that your system tries to pull the package from the

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 14:03:53 -0500 goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-04-26 13:05, Lars Noodén wrote: > > On 04/26/2018 08:34 PM, KatolaZ wrote: > > [snip]> the drivers you get from Debian Stretch repos are exactly > > the same > >> drivers (bit-by-bit) that you get through Devuan ASCII repos.

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 07:56:52PM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote: > I can second this. I have long years of experience with Nvidia and Amd > graphic cards under Linux, and I can say: the "free" drivers for these cards > (made by reverse engeneering) can drive you mad. Use the proprietary drivers > for

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 2018-04-26 13:05, Lars Noodén wrote: On 04/26/2018 08:34 PM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip]> the drivers you get from Debian Stretch repos are exactly the same drivers (bit-by-bit) that you get through Devuan ASCII repos. And I mean it. Whatever it is, it's indeed the very same package, really,

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 09:05:41PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 04/26/2018 08:42 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: > [snip] > > in one of your previous mails you pasted the output of your attempt to > > install the "nvidia-driver" package. If you follow down the dependency > > chain by manually trying

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 04/26/2018 08:42 PM, Florian Zieboll wrote: [snip] > in one of your previous mails you pasted the output of your attempt to > install the "nvidia-driver" package. If you follow down the dependency > chain by manually trying to install the "not installable" predepends, > sooner or later you'll

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 04/26/2018 08:34 PM, KatolaZ wrote: [snip]> the drivers you get from Debian Stretch repos are exactly the same > drivers (bit-by-bit) that you get through Devuan ASCII repos. And I > mean it. Whatever it is, it's indeed the very same package, really, > *the* *very* *same* *package*. [snip] Ok

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

Am 2018-04-26 19:34, schrieb KatolaZ: the drivers you get from Debian Stretch repos are exactly the same drivers (bit-by-bit) that you get through Devuan ASCII repos. And I mean it. Whatever it is, it's indeed the very same package, really, *the* *very* *same* *package*. Your problem looks like

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 19:51:47 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > I suspect that if I could figure out 1) the appropriate drivers, and > 2) how to get them from Debian, that would be the solution. Hallo Lars, in one of your previous mails you pasted the output of your attempt to

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 07:51:47PM +0300, Lars Noodén wrote: > On 04/26/2018 06:37 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 06:36:14 +0300 > > Lars Noodén wrote: > [snip] > >> Looking at the task manager in XCFE and top in the shell, the RAM and > >> swap usage

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 04/26/2018 06:37 PM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 06:36:14 +0300 > Lars Noodén wrote: [snip] >> Looking at the task manager in XCFE and top in the shell, the RAM and >> swap usage eventually start to climb more and more rapidly until >99% >> of RAM is in use

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 06:36:14 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > On 01/15/2018 06:13 PM, Chillfan wrote: > [snip] > > Try with the official NVIDIA drivers and see what happens. > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers > > Thanks. I've been unable to install the

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 06:36:14 +0300, Lars wrote in message <47850509-8a3c-3d51-ed44-f0416e372...@gmail.com>: > On 01/15/2018 06:13 PM, Chillfan wrote: > [snip] > > Try with the official NVIDIA drivers and see what happens. > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ..does your

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 04/21/2018 09:56 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:37:24 +0300, Lars wrote in message > : > >> On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: >> [snip] >>> ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your >>> screen

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 01/15/2018 06:13 PM, Chillfan wrote: [snip] > Try with the official NVIDIA drivers and see what happens. > > https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers Thanks. I've been unable to install the driver. Would I have to get that straight from Debian? See below for the missing dependencies.

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 20:37:24 +0300, Lars wrote in message : > On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > [snip] > > ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your > > screen hw??? Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On 04/21/2018 08:17 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote: [snip] > ..you have 2 video cards fighting each other for access to your > screen hw??? Choose one, I recommend nouveau on your GM108M. Thanks. I thought that was sorted automatically. What do I need to set to prioritize one over the other? /Lars

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

On Sat, 21 Apr 2018 11:29:36 +0300, Lars wrote in message <4be922af-f137-8de8-5337-ee846cd59...@gmail.com>: > I'm still getting freezes nearly daily. Some are temporary and last > only a few seconds and then let up. The ones that last longer > eventually freeze also the mouse pointer and then

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

I'm still getting freezes nearly daily. Some are temporary and last only a few seconds and then let up. The ones that last longer eventually freeze also the mouse pointer and then the entire machine. $ lsb_release -rd Description:Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii) Release:2.0 I have the

Re: [DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

What hardware are you using? I suspect the problem is with the nouveau driver, I had issues like this with my graphics card until reclocking support was finished. Nouveau has limited support for some of the newer cards (pascal if I remember) because nvidia hasn't released the signed firmware

[DNG] machine locks up switching between console and X session

I have some new hardware that locks up a lot with Ascii. Sometimes it happens on its own, other times it seems it can be triggered by going to the console (ctrl-alt-f1 for example) and back to the X session (ctrl-alt-f7). Any suggestions about how to diagnose or fix or work around this? I'm not