Re: [dns-privacy] The case for both ends of 'end-to-end'

2014-10-25 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:10:08PM -0700, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote a message of 383 lines which said: there are three points in the dns communication mesh where surveillance is possible: 1. stub to recursive 2. recursive to authoritative 3. zone maintainance I am not happy

Re: [dns-privacy] Qname minimization IPR

2014-10-25 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[Copy to dnsop since the qname minimisation draft is now a WG item at dnsop.] On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:21:57AM -0700, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote a message of 56 lines which said: http://www.google.com/patents/EP266A1?cl=en Well, some resolvers (the programs which will

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] Qname minimization IPR

2014-10-25 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Oct 25, 2014, at 2:03 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker ph...@hallambaker.com wrote: The claims are broad, not specific to one field of use. But there isn't a patent yet and they may have been waiting to file after grant. It is possible for someone other than the IPR holder to file but

Re: [dns-privacy] The case for both ends of 'end-to-end'

2014-10-25 Thread Paul Vixie
stephane, you make a very important distinction: Stephane Bortzmeyer mailto:bortzme...@nic.fr Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:03 AM On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 06:10:08PM -0700, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote a message of 383 lines which said: there are three points in the dns communication

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] Qname minimization IPR

2014-10-25 Thread Paul Vixie
Stephane Bortzmeyer mailto:bortzme...@nic.fr Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:24 AM [Copy to dnsop since the qname minimisation draft is now a WG item at dnsop.] On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 10:21:57AM -0700, David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote http://www.google.com/patents/EP266A1?cl=en

Re: [dns-privacy] [DNSOP] Qname minimization IPR

2014-10-25 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
Paul, It is a VeriSign patent, its just being shown on the Google patent serach engine On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 1:53 PM, Paul Vixie p...@redbarn.org wrote: Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr Saturday, October 25, 2014 2:24 AM [Copy to dnsop since the qname minimisation draft is now a

Re: [dns-privacy] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-dnsop-dns-privacy

2014-10-25 Thread Warren Kumari
On Friday, October 17, 2014, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote: Dear DPRIVE WG, This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-bortzmeyer-dnsop-dns-privacy. [ Please note: I am assuming that Stephane and DNSOP are both OK with us adopting this. It is referenced in our charter, and so might

[dns-privacy] Solving the problem

2014-10-25 Thread Watson Ladd
Dear all, Let's imagine that we actually want to make it hard for anyone to figure out what data is being requested via DNS. DNSCurve won't work: the nameservers involved learn what the request is and who made it. Combining it with DNSSEC+ISP cache also won't work: the ISP learns what you

Re: [dns-privacy] A pool is not an onion

2014-10-25 Thread Phillip Hallam-Baker
On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Watson Ladd watsonbl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Oct 25, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker i...@hallambaker.com wrote: I think that we have to go back to the original goal, to reduce leakage of information so that we only disclose where there is a need