Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-30 Thread F Campos Costero
On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 8:00 AM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> F Campos Costero wrote:
> > On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:54 AM F Campos Costero 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:07 PM Keith N. McKenna <
> >> keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> 
>  On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero <
> >>> fjcc.apa...@gmail.com>
>  wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >>> Hi Francis;
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the
> top
> >>> level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
> >>> and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
> >>> on the mwiki.
> >>>
> >>> The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
> >>> the complete book.
> >>>
> >>> If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
> >>> would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Keith
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>> Hi Keith
> >>>
> >>   I'll try to compile the whole text and see how it goes.
> >> Francis
> >>
> >
> > Keith,
> > I compiled all of the AOO41GS#.odt files into a file named
> AllChapters.odt.
> > I had to reinsert a figure or two in most of the chapters. After saving
> it
> > and taking a break, I scrolled through the whole document looking for
> > missing figures both among the numbered figures in frames and the in-line
> > images that show individual toolbar icons. That was very tedious, so I'm
> > not highly confident I didn't miss anything. However, I didn't see any
> > missing figures. There is a comment on page 251 that needs to be
> resolved.
> > I'm not sure what you would like for the next step. I could just push the
> > AllChapters file (with a different name?) to the top level folder of the
> > repository, or I can make it available separately.
> > Regards,
> > Francis
> >
> Francis;
>
> For now, since there are questions to be resolved, push it to the Review
> folder as AOO41GS.odt.
> Again thank you for helping to get this straightened out.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
>
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Keith,
I just pushed AOO41GS.odt to the Review folder.
Regards,
Francis


Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-29 Thread Michele Petrovsky
Of your list of components, I'm done with Writer, Calc, and Impress.  Will
continue till I've finished the list.

Re: the question of a glossary, I think I need to make clear why I put
forward suggestions like that out there.  My background was in humanities;
I came to tech well into my working life, with as much anxiety as the
average user.  Then, when I began to teach, I saw my students going through
the same apprehensiveness.

To folks with your background, terms like GNOME and KDE (see p. 123) don't
need to be explained.  But to folks like (some of) my students, and even me
at one point, terms like these can induce cold feet.  I'd be willing to bet
a few $$ on the idea that there are at least a few who don't understand
what an operating system (see p. 124) is.

My "mixed background" makes me all the more impressed with open source of
any kind.  I think cultivating audiences like those I've described is very
effective in promoting open source products.  In such contexts, relying on
styles internal to a document as a way to explain or convey meaning may not
suffice.  I did find one example of using less formal language to make an
important point - this statement on p. 144 (italics mine):

*Paste the text in the desired position. Do not worry if it does not look
right; it will in a minute.*

I'm going to proceed with my proofreading; hope to have Draw, Math, and
Base done in another few days.

On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 2:44 PM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> Michele Petrovsky wrote:
> > Keith, as is the case with all of Open Office's  documentation, the
> > discussion of  tracking changes is very well done.  I'm particularly
> > impressed with the clarity with which screen shots are used to
> illustrate a
> > point or a set of steps.
> >
> > I'll continue to plug away at proofreading.  I hope to have a (fairly)
> > complete set of suggestions in each of two categories (glossary, and
> > smoother flow of language) ready in another couple of weeks.
> >
> >
>
> I look forward to seeing those suggestions, but understand that the
> chapter files have been published and that only the compiled book is
> still waiting, and that there are 5 (possibly 6) individual manuals to
> be completed.
>
> The priorities are:
> 1) Writer
> 2) Calc
> 3) Impress
> 4) Draw
> 5) Math
> 6) Base
>
> Because of this, some or all of the information may be entered into
> Bugzilla, our issue tracking database, for future action.As far as a
> glossary is concerned, you may have noted that much of that has been
> done internal to the documents by use of styles. All recommendations
> will however be considered though possibly acted upon in different ways.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> > On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 10:24 AM Keith N. McKenna <
> keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Michele Petrovsky wrote:
> >>> Hope this finds everyone well...
> >>>
> >>> Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or
> so
> >>> pages a day.  So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other
> >>> proofreading-type errors.  There are a few word choices that could be
> >>> improved, I think.  But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's
> >> very
> >>> nicely done.
> >>>
> >>> I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of
> >> suggestions
> >>> for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary.  Will
> keep
> >>> you posted.
> >>>
> >>> *Michele*
> >>>
> >> Michele;
> >>
> >> Thank you so much for your help with this. I look forward to seeing your
> >> list of suggestions.
> >>
> >> For future reference, Writer, the word processing component of
> >> OpenOffice, has a feature to record and show changes that we make use of
> >> in the documentation. It is turned on until the document is ready to be
> >> published. and all changes are marked with a color unique to each
> person.
> >>
> >> If you look closely at the Writer chapter in the Getting Started Guide,
> >> and also in the Writer Guide you should get a better understanding of
> >> the particulars of the program. Also if you have any questions on
> >> OpenOffice or on how we use Git, ask them here and we will be ore than
> >> happy to give you any help that we can.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Keith
> >>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna <
> >> keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
>  F Campos Costero wrote:
> > I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File
> >> on
>  a
> > blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
> > figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document
>  showed
> > a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
> > placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in
> >> most
>  of
> > the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended
> to
> > hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
> > frame), insert a new 

Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-29 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Michele Petrovsky wrote:

Keith, as is the case with all of Open Office's  documentation, the
discussion of  tracking changes is very well done.  I'm particularly
impressed with the clarity with which screen shots are used to illustrate a
point or a set of steps.

I'll continue to plug away at proofreading.  I hope to have a (fairly)
complete set of suggestions in each of two categories (glossary, and
smoother flow of language) ready in another couple of weeks.




I look forward to seeing those suggestions, but understand that the 
chapter files have been published and that only the compiled book is 
still waiting, and that there are 5 (possibly 6) individual manuals to 
be completed.


The priorities are:
1) Writer
2) Calc
3) Impress
4) Draw
5) Math
6) Base

Because of this, some or all of the information may be entered into 
Bugzilla, our issue tracking database, for future action.As far as a 
glossary is concerned, you may have noted that much of that has been 
done internal to the documents by use of styles. All recommendations 
will however be considered though possibly acted upon in different ways.


Regards
Keith


On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 10:24 AM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:


Michele Petrovsky wrote:

Hope this finds everyone well...

Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or so
pages a day.  So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other
proofreading-type errors.  There are a few word choices that could be
improved, I think.  But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's

very

nicely done.

I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of

suggestions

for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary.  Will keep
you posted.

*Michele*


Michele;

Thank you so much for your help with this. I look forward to seeing your
list of suggestions.

For future reference, Writer, the word processing component of
OpenOffice, has a feature to record and show changes that we make use of
in the documentation. It is turned on until the document is ready to be
published. and all changes are marked with a color unique to each person.

If you look closely at the Writer chapter in the Getting Started Guide,
and also in the Writer Guide you should get a better understanding of
the particulars of the program. Also if you have any questions on
OpenOffice or on how we use Git, ask them here and we will be ore than
happy to give you any help that we can.

Regards
Keith



On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna <

keith.mcke...@comcast.net>

wrote:


F Campos Costero wrote:

I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File

on

a

blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document

showed

a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in

most

of

the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the

chapter

file.
If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures

12

and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures

long

ago.
I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero <

fjcc.apa...@gmail.com


wrote:



Hi Francis;

Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
on the mwiki.

The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
the complete book.

If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Keith

was

I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
working with the same files, please confirm that:
1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates

branch

2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
ForWiki folder
3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
Getting-sarted-Guide branch.

Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:


I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come

through

properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is

still a

problem it would be greatly appreciated.

The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from


Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-26 Thread Michele Petrovsky
Keith, as is the case with all of Open Office's  documentation, the
discussion of  tracking changes is very well done.  I'm particularly
impressed with the clarity with which screen shots are used to illustrate a
point or a set of steps.

I'll continue to plug away at proofreading.  I hope to have a (fairly)
complete set of suggestions in each of two categories (glossary, and
smoother flow of language) ready in another couple of weeks.


On Fri, May 26, 2023 at 10:24 AM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> Michele Petrovsky wrote:
> > Hope this finds everyone well...
> >
> > Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or so
> > pages a day.  So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other
> > proofreading-type errors.  There are a few word choices that could be
> > improved, I think.  But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's
> very
> > nicely done.
> >
> > I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of
> suggestions
> > for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary.  Will keep
> > you posted.
> >
> > *Michele*
> >
> Michele;
>
> Thank you so much for your help with this. I look forward to seeing your
> list of suggestions.
>
> For future reference, Writer, the word processing component of
> OpenOffice, has a feature to record and show changes that we make use of
> in the documentation. It is turned on until the document is ready to be
> published. and all changes are marked with a color unique to each person.
>
> If you look closely at the Writer chapter in the Getting Started Guide,
> and also in the Writer Guide you should get a better understanding of
> the particulars of the program. Also if you have any questions on
> OpenOffice or on how we use Git, ask them here and we will be ore than
> happy to give you any help that we can.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> >
> > On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna <
> keith.mcke...@comcast.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> F Campos Costero wrote:
> >>> I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File
> on
> >> a
> >>> blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
> >>> figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document
> >> showed
> >>> a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
> >>> placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in
> most
> >> of
> >>> the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
> >>> hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
> >>> frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the
> >> chapter
> >>> file.
> >>> If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures
> >> 12
> >>> and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
> >>> paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures
> >> long
> >>> ago.
> >>> I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Francis
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero <
> fjcc.apa...@gmail.com
> >>>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Francis;
> >>
> >> Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
> >> level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
> >> and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
> >> on the mwiki.
> >>
> >> The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
> >> the complete book.
> >>
> >> If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
> >> would be greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> Keith
> >>
> >> was
>  I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
>  working with the same files, please confirm that:
>  1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates
> branch
>  2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
>  ForWiki folder
>  3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
>  Getting-sarted-Guide branch.
> 
>  Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?
> 
>  Regards,
>  Francis
> 
>  On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna <
>  keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
> > Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
> > perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come
> through
> > properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
> > book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is
> still a
> > problem it would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from
> the
> > AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual
> breaks
> > as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which
> contains
> > the Tittle Page, 

Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-26 Thread Keith N. McKenna

Michele Petrovsky wrote:

Hope this finds everyone well...

Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or so
pages a day.  So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other
proofreading-type errors.  There are a few word choices that could be
improved, I think.  But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's very
nicely done.

I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of suggestions
for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary.  Will keep
you posted.

*Michele*


Michele;

Thank you so much for your help with this. I look forward to seeing your 
list of suggestions.


For future reference, Writer, the word processing component of 
OpenOffice, has a feature to record and show changes that we make use of 
in the documentation. It is turned on until the document is ready to be 
published. and all changes are marked with a color unique to each person.


If you look closely at the Writer chapter in the Getting Started Guide, 
and also in the Writer Guide you should get a better understanding of 
the particulars of the program. Also if you have any questions on 
OpenOffice or on how we use Git, ask them here and we will be ore than 
happy to give you any help that we can.


Regards
Keith



On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:


F Campos Costero wrote:

I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on

a

blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document

showed

a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most

of

the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the

chapter

file.
If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures

12

and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures

long

ago.
I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero 

Hi Francis;

Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
on the mwiki.

The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
the complete book.

If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Keith

was

I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
working with the same files, please confirm that:
1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch
2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
ForWiki folder
3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
Getting-sarted-Guide branch.

Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:


I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through
properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a
problem it would be greatly appreciated.

The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the
AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks
as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains
the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC.

Thank a lot for the help

Regards
Keith


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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-26 Thread Keith N. McKenna

F Campos Costero wrote:

On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:54 AM F Campos Costero 
wrote:




On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:07 PM Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:




On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero <

fjcc.apa...@gmail.com>

wrote:



Hi Francis;

Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
on the mwiki.

The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
the complete book.

If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
would be greatly appreciated.

Regards
Keith





Hi Keith


  I'll try to compile the whole text and see how it goes.
Francis



Keith,
I compiled all of the AOO41GS#.odt files into a file named AllChapters.odt.
I had to reinsert a figure or two in most of the chapters. After saving it
and taking a break, I scrolled through the whole document looking for
missing figures both among the numbered figures in frames and the in-line
images that show individual toolbar icons. That was very tedious, so I'm
not highly confident I didn't miss anything. However, I didn't see any
missing figures. There is a comment on page 251 that needs to be resolved.
I'm not sure what you would like for the next step. I could just push the
AllChapters file (with a different name?) to the top level folder of the
repository, or I can make it available separately.
Regards,
Francis


Francis;

For now, since there are questions to be resolved, push it to the Review 
folder as AOO41GS.odt.

Again thank you for helping to get this straightened out.

Regards
Keith



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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-22 Thread F Campos Costero
On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 8:54 AM F Campos Costero 
wrote:

>
>
> On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:07 PM Keith N. McKenna <
> keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> F Campos Costero wrote:
>> > I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File
>> on a
>> > blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
>> > figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document
>> showed
>> > a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
>> > placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in
>> most of
>> > the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
>> > hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
>> > frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the
>> chapter
>> > file.
>> > If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures
>> 12
>> > and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
>> > paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures
>> long
>> > ago.
>> > I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Francis
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero <
>> fjcc.apa...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>>
>> Hi Francis;
>>
>> Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
>> level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
>> and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
>> on the mwiki.
>>
>> The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
>> the complete book.
>>
>> If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
>> would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
>
>> Hi Keith
>>
>  I'll try to compile the whole text and see how it goes.
> Francis
>

Keith,
I compiled all of the AOO41GS#.odt files into a file named AllChapters.odt.
I had to reinsert a figure or two in most of the chapters. After saving it
and taking a break, I scrolled through the whole document looking for
missing figures both among the numbered figures in frames and the in-line
images that show individual toolbar icons. That was very tedious, so I'm
not highly confident I didn't miss anything. However, I didn't see any
missing figures. There is a comment on page 251 that needs to be resolved.
I'm not sure what you would like for the next step. I could just push the
AllChapters file (with a different name?) to the top level folder of the
repository, or I can make it available separately.
Regards,
Francis


Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-22 Thread F Campos Costero
On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 12:07 PM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> F Campos Costero wrote:
> > I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on
> a
> > blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
> > figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document
> showed
> > a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
> > placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most
> of
> > the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
> > hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
> > frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the
> chapter
> > file.
> > If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures
> 12
> > and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
> > paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures
> long
> > ago.
> > I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Francis
> >
> > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero  >
> > wrote:
> >
>
> Hi Francis;
>
> Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
> level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
> and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
> on the mwiki.
>
> The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
> the complete book.
>
> If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>

> Hi Keith
>
 I'll try to compile the whole text and see how it goes.
Francis


Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-21 Thread Michele Petrovsky
Hope this finds everyone well...

Re: *Getting Started*, I'm continuing my proofreading; averaging 50 or so
pages a day.  So far, no obvious spelling / punctuation / other
proofreading-type errors.  There are a few word choices that could be
improved, I think.  But other than that nothing needs corrected; it's very
nicely done.

I'm going to continue with this practice, put together a set of suggestions
for wording, and also possibilities for entries in a glossary.  Will keep
you posted.

*Michele*


On Sun, May 21, 2023 at 2:07 PM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> F Campos Costero wrote:
> > I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on
> a
> > blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
> > figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document
> showed
> > a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
> > placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most
> of
> > the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
> > hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
> > frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the
> chapter
> > file.
> > If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures
> 12
> > and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
> > paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures
> long
> > ago.
> > I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Francis
> >
> > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero  >
> > wrote:
> >
>
> Hi Francis;
>
> Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top
> level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them
> and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution
> on the mwiki.
>
> The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in
> the complete book.
>
> If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it
> would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
> was
> >> I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
> >> working with the same files, please confirm that:
> >> 1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch
> >> 2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
> >> ForWiki folder
> >> 3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
> >> Getting-sarted-Guide branch.
> >>
> >> Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Francis
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna <
> >> keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
> >>> Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
> >>> perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through
> >>> properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
> >>> book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a
> >>> problem it would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>> The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the
> >>> AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks
> >>> as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains
> >>> the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC.
> >>>
> >>> Thank a lot for the help
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> Keith
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna

F Campos Costero wrote:

I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on a
blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document showed
a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most of
the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the chapter
file.
If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures 12
and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures long
ago.
I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero 
wrote:



Hi Francis;

Thank you for looking into this. The files to be used are all at the top 
level. The ones in ForWiki, already have all the front matter in them 
and are strictly to create the PDFs and chapter files for distribution 
on the mwiki.


The problem was with figure 4 in AOO41GS2, which would be figure 5 in 
the complete book.


If you can correct whatever you find and finish compiling the book it 
would be greatly appreciated.


Regards
Keith

was

I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
working with the same files, please confirm that:
1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch
2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
ForWiki folder
3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
Getting-sarted-Guide branch.

Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna <
keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:


I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through
properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a
problem it would be greatly appreciated.

The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the
AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks
as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains
the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC.

Thank a lot for the help

Regards
Keith


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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-17 Thread F Campos Costero
I do see problems with the figures when I use the menu Insert -> File on a
blank document to insert AOO41GS2.odt. Instead of a problem with one
figure, I saw problems with figures 2,4,11,12, and 17. The document showed
a placedholder rather than the actual figure. I could delete the
placeholder and copy and paste the figures from the chapter file in most of
the cases. For figures 12 and 17, I had to delete the frame intended to
hold the figure, delete the placeholder (which was somehow not in the
frame), insert a new frame, and then copy over the figure from the chapter
file.
If you turn on View -> Nonprinting Characters, you can see that figures 12
and 17 are unusual. The figure caption is preceded by several empty
paragraphs. I bet I did something wrong when I inserted those figures long
ago.
I inserted AOO41GS3.odt without any problems.

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:21 AM F Campos Costero 
wrote:

> Hi Keith,
> I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
> working with the same files, please confirm that:
> 1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch
> 2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
> ForWiki folder
> 3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
> Getting-sarted-Guide branch.
>
> Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?
>
> Regards,
> Francis
>
> On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna <
> keith.mcke...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
>> Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
>> perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through
>> properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
>> book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a
>> problem it would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the
>> AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks
>> as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains
>> the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC.
>>
>> Thank a lot for the help
>>
>> Regards
>> Keith
>>
>>
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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-17 Thread F Campos Costero
Hi Keith,
I'll try to compile the complete book later today. To make sure we are
working with the same files, please confirm that:
1. You are using the template file AOOdoc.ott from the Templates branch
2. The odt chapter files are in the Getting-Sarted-Guide branch in the
ForWiki folder
3. The Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt file is the one at the top level of the
Getting-sarted-Guide branch.

Which figure in chapter 1 is causing problems?

Regards,
Francis

On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 9:47 AM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
> Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
> perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through
> properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
> book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a
> problem it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the
> AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks
> as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains
> the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC.
>
> Thank a lot for the help
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
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Re: Help need with compiling the Getting Started Book

2023-05-17 Thread Michele Petrovsky
That's how I would have done it, Keith.  Unfortunately, I'm not familiar
enough with ODT or Giot to be of more help.  But your logic is completely
sound.

>From my end, I'm about to begin a com[rehensive review of the most recent
version of Getting Started. I'm going to walk through the whole thing,
looking for language that might be more clear.  Should enough examples of
that surface, I can construct a glossary.

For example, the chapter on Base states:

Databases bear a superficial similarity to the more widely encountered
spreadsheets,
but there are important differences. A database consists of a number of
columns or
fields that contain the individual pieces of data. Groups of fields make up
a table of
the database. When creating a table, you also determine the characteristics
of each
field in the table. This is one key difference from spreadsheets. Each
field or column
may contain only one kind of data.

Clear enough to anyone who's worked with databases, but perhaps not so to
new users.  It's things like that I'll look for.

*Michele Petrovsky*




On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 11:47 AM Keith N. McKenna 
wrote:

> I am having difficulty compiling the Complete book for the Getting
> Started Guide. All the chapters  except Chapter 1 (AOO41GS2) Compile
> perfectly. There is one figure in chapter 1 that does not come through
> properly. It is there in the Chapter file, but not the the complete
> book. If one of you could try to compile it and see if there is still a
> problem it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> The way I have been doing it is to create a blank writer file from the
> AOO Template and then insert the chapters along with any manual breaks
> as needed, then at the top insert Aoo41GSFrontMatter.odt which contains
> the Tittle Page, Copyright Page and a blank TOC.
>
> Thank a lot for the help
>
> Regards
> Keith
>
>
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