Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer
Hi, I obviously got this wrong if someone can help out. I checked out GS4005 - calc. Copied the file to my PC, made some changes. Now I can't see an action to check back in. The history has it edited by me but I think I must have missed a step. TIA - Original Message - From: John Smith Sent: 02/04/13 04:06 AM To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer Hi Tim The thing I usually do is select the file and then in the Actions menu item, select Check out. This locks the file, creates another copy in the folder, and you take away a copy to work on. Have 'Record changes' enabled when you open the document on your system to work on it, change what you think needs changing, or make suggestions, leaving comments (Ctrl+Alt+C) giving your reasons. Save the file on your system and change the filename by adding an underscore, your initials, an underscore and alter the date. So Title_JAS_TL_01Feb13. The date I do this way because I hate those long strings of numbers which are messy and differ country to country. When you're done, go back to ODF, select the checked out copy in the folder and then in the Actions menu, select Check in. Go to the Feedback folder, select 'Add new' and 'File' and upload your commented file. Once it's uploaded, go to the Draft LO 4.0 folder and delete the file from there. Inform the list you've uploaded a particular file. This may not be 'by the book' but it's what I've been doing, and works. Regards JohnS On 03/02/2013 05:01, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi, I downloaded the writer guide from the ODF website but I could not see any obvious way to set status to locked. A quick look at 3.6 shows all this text is also current. However... P9 Moving quickly through a documentcontains this sentence (below the figure):The Navigation toolbar (Figure 7) shows icons for all the object types shown in the Navigator, plus some extras (for example, the results of a *Find* command). shows and shown in the same sentence? shows icons for all the object types /displayed/ in the Navigator perhaps? P12 The paragraph below Selecting a vertical block of text, the last sentence contains a number of or clauses. I think these would look better bulleted P14 The Caution: Use *Replace All* with caution; otherwise, you may end up with some hilarious (and highly embarrassing) mistakes. Personally I would be emphasising the embarassing while acknowledging, in brackets, that the mistakes may be hilarious. Cheers Tim -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer
That's my fault. I saw the checkout copy of that file late yesterday (my time), did not realise that it was checked out (my bad for not looking more closely), and deleted it. That probably removed the checkout flag, so you could not check it back in. Please put your edited file into Feedback. Please do not ever overwrite existing files. I know the system is set up to allow and encourage that, but please don't do it. I will be amending the Contributors Guide to make this process more clear. --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: Hi, I obviously got this wrong if someone can help out. I checked out GS4005 - calc. Copied the file to my PC, made some changes. Now I can't see an action to check back in. The history has it edited by me but I think I must have missed a step. TIA -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] voice and music
Hi :) Are you able to add a sound track? I'd really like to ask Pamela to read another script. I want to catch her while she is still in the right frame of mind and hopefully get her familiar with doing these sorts of things. It might even push her into trying out LibreOffice more often. I think the Personas video is a good candidate. I think that is the classiest one and it's the new feature that seems to be attracting attention. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. LibreOffice Docs webofht-libofficedoc...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOfficeDocumentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 13:24 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Show or hide page numbers in LibreOffice 4 Hi! Added the YouTube link here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Video_Tutorials Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ C. H. D. LibreOffice Docs webofht-libofficedoc...@yahoo.com.hk 收件人︰ LibreOfficeDocumentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月9日 (週六) 5:40 PM 主題︰ Show or hide page numbers in LibreOffice 4 Hi! I have created a video illustrating how to show or hide page numbers in LibreOffice 4: http://youtu.be/o-vHHgdeZ5M The video was made to be as long as two minutes or less. The screenshots are here: http://mindmapapp.blogspot.com/2013/02/show-or-hide-page-numbers-footer-in.html Please feel free to share this information. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Questions galore!
Hi :) I htought all the wiki and documentation used CC-BY-SA 3.0 or earlier versions of the same license. I think copying from one to the other is fine. The trouble only starts when you try to delete stuff from any 1 place. Regards from Tom :) From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 6:05 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Questions galore! Le 2013-02-09 17:00, Robinson Tryon a écrit : When I first went to the odfauthors.org site, I thought that it was a site for end-users because of the highly-prominent links to books for sale, but now I believe that the website is largely focused on internal production. Perhaps there's something we can do to make things more clear to regular users as well as to our volunteer community. ODFAuthors have been partners with OOo and in particular with LibreOffice from the very start. Jean Hollis Weber of ODFAuthors is one of our most prolific contributors on the project, we also make use of ODFAuthor resources and goodwill. I believe it is we who should be thankful for ODFAuthors helping us out with the docs teams and resources. I doubt things would go as smoothly without Jean and her team at ODFAuthors who work at quite high professional standards. I am sorry if the Get Help FAQ move caused this headache. Let me know if there has been a loss of some important information and I will make arrangements to post it back onto the Ask.LibreOffice.org site for future reference. Thanks. Is all of the content on that site available under a license compatible with that of the Ask site? (CC-BY-SA 3.0) If so, I can just copy-in anything I need from the cached copy up on Archive.org. As far as I can remember, all that same information is already up on the Ask site. You just have to find it. No need to go to Archive.org. IMO, most questions users ask on the Ask.LibreOffice.org site are probably best answered there, and, IMO, I don't see a reason to work on any user-related FAQ when the Ask.LibreOffice.org site is probably the best type of solution for a good living/breathing FAQ site. Using the Ask site as the general FAQ as we go forward sounds like a solid plan to me. The FAQ on the wiki currently has some overlap with the Ask site: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Faq What do you guys think about migrating questions from that FAQ to the Ask site? I'd be happy to shepherd that work, if that's amenable to you. I don't think this would be an acceptable option as the FAQ is, again, used in large part for contributor work. IMO, there is nothing wrong with overlapping/doubling or information as people tend to operate in different ways; some like to get information from FAQ's, others from Ask sites, others from mailing lists, others from forums ... IMO, it is up to the site maintainers to triage the information appropriately so that it is factual (as best as one can get) for their own particular user base. To me, it doesn't sound like a good idea to remove a contributor tool for users when we are in need of contributors. My question to you now is this; have the mods/admins discussed eliminating duplicated questions on the Ask.LibreOffice.org site in order to make it more effective? We've had some discussion, but we certainly need to have more! :-) On the Ask site mods have the ability to close questions as duplicates, and now that we've got a few more active mods, we're working on cleaning-up a large backlog of out-of-date and abandoned questions. Out of 3000 questions, about 1,500 are still open (i.e. they haven't been closed or resolved with a good answer). One of the best ways for us to improve the quality of the Ask site and to make it more effective is to improve the quality of the question titles. A title of Form Scrambled or soffice.bin is much less helpful than Base: How can I make the fields on my contact management form save their position? or Why is Comodo antivirus giving me a CloudScanner.Trojan.Gen@2@1 alert for soffice.bin when I try to open LO 4.0.0.3?. For now, only mods and very-high-karma users can make these changes, so it'll take a little while to work through the site. I've been talking with Joel Madero and Joren De Cuyper (QA) about ways that we can improve communication between different groups of people. It's great to be able to ask the QA folks what they think should end up in the bugtracker and what they think should stay as a question on the Ask site, or coordinate on some other aspect of the project. I'd love to see similar collaboration/easy communication with other groups like the Documentation Team. A few ideas off the top of my head - When answering a Q, there should be a clear/easy way to ask the Doc Team where to find the latest documentation on a particular topic - If How do I do X? comes up and we don't have (can't find?) good docs on
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Questions galore!
Although the wiki pages themselves are CC-BY-SA, most of the user guide chapters use CC-BY 3.0 (not CC-BY-SA) due to their historical origin as OOo guides. I have never heard of any of the contributors to those chapters objecting to incorporating material from them into other documents licensed under CC-BY-SA. --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I htought all the wiki and documentation used CC-BY-SA 3.0 or earlier versions of the same license. I think copying from one to the other is fine. The trouble only starts when you try to delete stuff from any 1 place. Regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] New helper available
I have set up an account for you at ODFAuthors. You should receive a confirmation email with a link to set your password. Tom has directed you to the Docs Development page, where you will find, among other things, several chapters of the Contributors' Guide and our wish list for docs we don't already have. I also suggest looking at our draft Easy Hacks page for some suggestions on helpful things people can do without committing to a large amount of time or time-critical work. (This page may not be fully up to date.) http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Easy_hacks --Jean On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Yvonne R yvonn...@gmail.com wrote: Hello all, I am disabled from work but can spend some time each week working on documentation. My background is in writing training manuals and technical documentation on software systems that I supported. I never worked on a doc team though so I am unaware of the normal life cycle. I would be interested in writing content wherever I am needed. What peaked my interest initially was to answer FAQs. Editing is not my forte although I can do it. I will continue to poke around. If anyone is in need of some help, please let me know. Regards, Yvonne aka PopularOutcast -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Docs/Pubs wiki page: an update on progress
Tom, Thanks for making the changes you've done on our Pubs page. You'll see that I deleted the numbers of pages for new chapters that have not been added to the list; the numbers do change and I thought it looked silly to have numbers of pages with no other info. No great rush on amending the Writer Guide table. --Jean On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Btw i have tidied the wiki-page's Getting Started section by moving all the remaining chapter's number-of-pages into the 4.0.x columns. It's going to look a little odd until those chapters get uploaded to the Publications page and the number may need to be changed a little. Some of the other chapters seemed to gain or lose a page or so this time. I still haven't done the Writer's section for the 4.0.x and i know it needs doing asap so hopefully i should remember to do that tomorrow. I've got to sneak into work anyway to finish off a few outstanding issues there too but a lot of that is waiting around while Windows does it's scans and updates and stuff (big yawn). So, apols and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project
Hi :) I thought i remembered someone saying they had found a Math Guide written in German that had quite a few separate chapters and that some of that was going to be moved into the English guide? I could easily be wrong but i just wondered if i had got it right? Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com; market...@global.libreoffice.org market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013, 18:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think the Maths Guide is about to have a major re-vamp, probably after the 4.0.0. I'm not sure if that would affect an application for an ISBN number. Where do you get the idea that the Maths Guide is about to have a major re-vamp? Have I missed something at Docs? For an ISBN, all I have to do is add one to the book. Note, however, that at this point only the printed version of the books have ISBN; the PDFs do not (because we don't sell them). PDFs and printed books and eBooks each require a separate ISBN. Friends of OpenDocument buys ISBN in sets of 100, so I have plenty to use. As for abusing the wholesale offer i think that is not really a worry. The aim is to get the guides out there as far and widely as possibly. If someone is smart enough and keen enough (about LO) then they hopefully will make good use of the guides anyway, either to make sure they get seen or to help people migrate to LibreOffice. The aim is less about generating profit and more about getting the guides out there. I agree. I am not concerned about this. Hopefully people wont try to abuse the system too much. Even at full price the guides really don't cost much especially when compared to similar guides for rival products. Also i am sure the Friends of OpenDocument are sensible enough to manage the requests sensibly. Sending full sets of guides out to all 51 libraries might or might not present a bit of a challenge to them but i'm sure they could figure out a way of doing something sensible. There is a bit of work for me involved in buying the books, but including all copies is trivially more work than just ordering one. It still makes sense to send directly to where they are required to save the effort of re-distributing. See my earlier note in response to Marc. I am not so sure sending directly to the library is the better idea... unless the request comes directly from the library. From: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com To: market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013, 8:45 Subject: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project Also, just to be clear to everyone, Jean, are you saying the guides would be sent directly to the Libraries and not the user requesting the guides at wholesale rate costs? This to me would make sense, as it would remove any temptation for any abuse of purchase. Cheers, Marc -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project
Le 10/02/2013 20:58, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I thought i remembered someone saying they had found a Math Guide written in German that had quite a few separate chapters and that some of that was going to be moved into the English guide? I could easily be wrong but i just wondered if i had got it right? or some froggie? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project
Hi :) Ahhh, perhaps! I thought it was 'just' the wiki Faq that the French had done better faster? Regards from Tom :) From: Jean-Francois Nifenecker jean-francois.nifenec...@laposte.net To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 20:01 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project Le 10/02/2013 20:58, Tom Davies a écrit : Hi :) I thought i remembered someone saying they had found a Math Guide written in German that had quite a few separate chapters and that some of that was going to be moved into the English guide? I could easily be wrong but i just wondered if i had got it right? or some froggie? -- Jean-Francois Nifenecker, Bordeaux -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Docs/Pubs wiki page: an update on progress
Hi :) I forgot to go to sleep last night so i did it then. Also forgot to sneak into work until too late today so i'm not goign to get everything done here either! lqtm. At least i am getting a few things done for once though so that feels good. I saw the page numbers vanish and thought it was something weird i'd done but the history reassured me. It does look better as it is now. Is the Docs Team trying to produce a full set of guides for the 4.0.0 or is it going to settle into a sensible rotation of some-sort? Work so far is pretty awesome btw!! :D Chapters keep appearing for the GS guide pretty much each time i look. Congrats and regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 19:23 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Docs/Pubs wiki page: an update on progress Tom, Thanks for making the changes you've done on our Pubs page. You'll see that I deleted the numbers of pages for new chapters that have not been added to the list; the numbers do change and I thought it looked silly to have numbers of pages with no other info. No great rush on amending the Writer Guide table. --Jean On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 5:50 PM, Tom tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Btw i have tidied the wiki-page's Getting Started section by moving all the remaining chapter's number-of-pages into the 4.0.x columns. It's going to look a little odd until those chapters get uploaded to the Publications page and the number may need to be changed a little. Some of the other chapters seemed to gain or lose a page or so this time. I still haven't done the Writer's section for the 4.0.x and i know it needs doing asap so hopefully i should remember to do that tomorrow. I've got to sneak into work anyway to finish off a few outstanding issues there too but a lot of that is waiting around while Windows does it's scans and updates and stuff (big yawn). So, apols and regards from Tom :) -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project
A proposed variation of the Math Guide (and GS with Math chapter) based on the French docs are on the wiki and will be considered for v 4.0. I've mentioned it to John Smith, who is working on the GS with Math chapter. Some changes from the German version were included awhile ago (v 3.5, I think). --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I thought i remembered someone saying they had found a Math Guide written in German that had quite a few separate chapters and that some of that was going to be moved into the English guide? I could easily be wrong but i just wondered if i had got it right? Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com; market...@global.libreoffice.org market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013, 18:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think the Maths Guide is about to have a major re-vamp, probably after the 4.0.0. I'm not sure if that would affect an application for an ISBN number. Where do you get the idea that the Maths Guide is about to have a major re-vamp? Have I missed something at Docs? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer
Just to clarify things then: * check out the file in question. * download the file to my PC * change the name * modify * return to ODF and use actions-check in to feedback? Cheers - Original Message - From: Jean Weber Sent: 02/11/13 02:51 AM To: Tim Lloyd Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer That's my fault. I saw the checkout copy of that file late yesterday (my time), did not realise that it was checked out (my bad for not looking more closely), and deleted it. That probably removed the checkout flag, so you could not check it back in. Please put your edited file into Feedback. Please do not ever overwrite existing files. I know the system is set up to allow and encourage that, but please don't do it. I will be amending the Contributors Guide to make this process more clear. --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: Hi, I obviously got this wrong if someone can help out. I checked out GS4005 - calc. Copied the file to my PC, made some changes. Now I can't see an action to check back in. The history has it edited by me but I think I must have missed a step. TIA -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project
Hi :) Ahh, thanks Jean :) So i was a bit off-track but not completely hopeless :) Thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Sunday, 10 February 2013, 20:36 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Maths revamp? Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project A proposed variation of the Math Guide (and GS with Math chapter) based on the French docs are on the wiki and will be considered for v 4.0. I've mentioned it to John Smith, who is working on the GS with Math chapter. Some changes from the German version were included awhile ago (v 3.5, I think). --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 11:58 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I thought i remembered someone saying they had found a Math Guide written in German that had quite a few separate chapters and that some of that was going to be moved into the English guide? I could easily be wrong but i just wondered if i had got it right? Regards from Tom :) From: Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com; market...@global.libreoffice.org market...@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 6 February 2013, 18:21 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Re: LibreOffice Documentation in Local Libraries Project On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 4:15 AM, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi :) I think the Maths Guide is about to have a major re-vamp, probably after the 4.0.0. I'm not sure if that would affect an application for an ISBN number. Where do you get the idea that the Maths Guide is about to have a major re-vamp? Have I missed something at Docs? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Questions galore!
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: Given the size of your workforce, is there anything that the rest of the volunteers on the project can do to help get the 4.0 documentation out? Maybe a documentation sprint ? :-) If there's any work that could be chunked-up, like proofreading or feature-confirmation, that might be a good way to offload some of the tasks. It also looks like contributors need a separate log-in for the odfauthors.org website -- I should reinvestigate SSO and see if that could further-reduce hurdles to inter-group participation in the LO community. Our biggest need is for people to update chapters from one version to the next, and preferably to take responsibility for an entire book or a specific topic area (such as printing or styles or graphics) that is covered in several books. However, this isn't a one-off commitment and requires some study of our style guide and template as well as good writing skills in English. The next most important need is for people to review draft and published chapters for accurancy. Anyone can do this, and it's not a major commitment of time. It's not even necessary to have an ODFAuthors login, though that helps by making the process of returning edited files easier. As an alternative, people can download published chapters from the wiki, then write an email describing any errors they've found and post the email to the Docs list. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] ODFAuthors (was Re: Questions galore!)
On Sat, Feb 9, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: Le 2013-02-09 17:00, Robinson Tryon a écrit : When I first went to the odfauthors.org site, I thought that it was a site for end-users because of the highly-prominent links to books for sale, but now I believe that the website is largely focused on internal production. Perhaps there's something we can do to make things more clear to regular users as well as to our volunteer community. ODFAuthors have been partners with OOo and in particular with LibreOffice from the very start. Jean Hollis Weber of ODFAuthors is one of our most prolific contributors on the project, we also make use of ODFAuthor resources and goodwill. I believe it is we who should be thankful for ODFAuthors helping us out with the docs teams and resources. I doubt things would go as smoothly without Jean and her team at ODFAuthors who work at quite high professional standards. Just to expand on that a bit... ODFAuthors is a website that is available to several groups if they choose to use it. At this time, AFAIK, only LibreOffice makes much use of the site. The team of people writing, editing, etc for the LibreOffice user guides are in fact the LibreOffice Documentation Team, using the ODFAuthors website for convenience. A small number of people (of which I am one) maintains the ODFAuthors website, sets up accounts for new members of the LibreOffice Docs Team, and so on. To further confuse everyone, the printed copies of the books are published by yet another organisation, Friends of OpenDocument Inc., which also publishes other groups' and authors' books. Friends keeps separate accounts for the various groups and individuals who use its services. Yes, the ODFAuthors website is primarily for the *production* of user guides and other documentation, not the distribution and sale (which are primarily done elsewhere). I'll look into improving the front pages to make that more obvious. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer
Okay, done. File uploaded to feedback. A general comment regarding GS4005: I notice formulas formulae are both being used. Are we going to decide one way or the other? Cheers - Original Message - From: Jean Weber Sent: 02/11/13 07:55 AM To: Tim Lloyd Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:42 PM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: Just to clarify things then: check out the file in question. download the file to my PC change the name modify return to ODF and use actions-check in to feedback? Checkout, modify, upload modified file to Feedback, then go back to Drafts (or Published) and either check in the file or cancel checkout (I generally cancel checkout). It's clunky, because we're not using the system the way it is designed. --JeanCheers - Original Message - From: Jean Weber Sent: 02/11/13 02:51 AM To: Tim Lloyd Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer That's my fault. I saw the checkout copy of that file late yesterday (my time), did not realise that it was checked out (my bad for not looking more closely), and deleted it. That probably removed the checkout flag, so you could not check it back in. Please put your edited file into Feedback. Please do not ever overwrite existing files. I know the system is set up to allow and encourage that, but please don't do it. I will be amending the Contributors Guide to make this process more clear. --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:38 AM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: Hi, I obviously got this wrong if someone can help out. I checked out GS4005 - calc. Copied the file to my PC, made some changes. Now I can't see an action to check back in. The history has it edited by me but I think I must have missed a step. TIA -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Questions galore!
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Marc Paré m...@marcpare.com wrote: The specific case here has been dealt with, so I consider that issue resolved. In the more general case, I guess the question is When linking to content, what documentation resources will be least susceptible to link rot? --R Well, realistically, all of them. Our work is based on the numbers of contributors, and, like any other part of the project, we cannot force anyone to work on anything that they do not want to work on. So, IMO, unless there are very committed people on board, then, all work on the project is susceptible to link rot. When I say link rot, I'm specifically referring to the issue of content remaining accessible over time via a particular URL: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_rot I understand that LibreOffice needs someone to keep the servers running, however unless there's an issue with our software, floeff alone could probably keep all of the pages on the wiki, the Ask site, etc... up and running (as static content) for the next decade. If we're going to link Answers on the ask site to content outside of the Ask site, we'd like those links to remain accessible for as long as possible. To ask a slightly different question: Is there any plan within LO to remove hosted content or to further change urls for hosted content? Thanks, --R -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] GS Chapter 3, Styles and Formatting
Hi This chapter now uploaded to Feedback folder on ODF. Starting the GS Math now. JohnS -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Draft LO 4.0 Chapter 4 - Getting started with Writer
Formulas. If it's not in the Style Guide, it will be. Thanks, Tim. --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Tim Lloyd tim.ll...@gmx.com wrote: Okay, done. File uploaded to feedback. A general comment regarding GS4005: I notice formulas formulae are both being used. Are we going to decide one way or the other? -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] GS Chapter 3, Styles and Formatting
Yay, John! Downloading it not to take a look at it. (Others are welcome to do so as well, of course.) --Jean On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 2:40 PM, John Smith clicks...@yahoo.co.uk wrote: Hi This chapter now uploaded to Feedback folder on ODF. Starting the GS Math now. JohnS -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] voice and music
Hello! I have added the captions in each of the following videos: Random (word) lists in LibreOffice 4 http://youtu.be/O0LVAjwkqLw Gradient background in presentation in LibreOffice 4 http://youtu.be/a0VLt5zpDfE Show or hide page numbers (footer) in LibreOffice 4 http://youtu.be/o-vHHgdeZ5M Fancy look in LibreOffice 4 http://youtu.be/97EvPYgY3Js My environment is usually noisy. It is not good for recording any voice. The captions should be enough for the users to get things done when the screen resolution is not too high. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk 收件人︰ C. H. D. LibreOffice Docs webofht-libofficedoc...@yahoo.com.hk; documentation@global.libreoffice.org documentation@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月11日 (週一) 2:04 AM 主題︰ [libreoffice-documentation] voice and music Hi :) Are you able to add a sound track? I'd really like to ask Pamela to read another script. I want to catch her while she is still in the right frame of mind and hopefully get her familiar with doing these sorts of things. It might even push her into trying out LibreOffice more often. I think the Personas video is a good candidate. I think that is the classiest one and it's the new feature that seems to be attracting attention. Regards from Tom :) From: C. H. D. LibreOffice Docs webofht-libofficedoc...@yahoo.com.hk To: LibreOfficeDocumentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Saturday, 9 February 2013, 13:24 Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Show or hide page numbers in LibreOffice 4 Hi! Added the YouTube link here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Other_Documentation_and_Resources#Video_Tutorials Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 寄件人︰ C. H. D. LibreOffice Docs webofht-libofficedoc...@yahoo.com.hk 收件人︰ LibreOfficeDocumentation documentation@global.libreoffice.org 傳送日期︰ 2013年02月9日 (週六) 5:40 PM 主題︰ Show or hide page numbers in LibreOffice 4 Hi! I have created a video illustrating how to show or hide page numbers in LibreOffice 4: http://youtu.be/o-vHHgdeZ5M The video was made to be as long as two minutes or less. The screenshots are here: http://mindmapapp.blogspot.com/2013/02/show-or-hide-page-numbers-footer-in.html Please feel free to share this information. Regards, C. H. D. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
