Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
On 10/29/2013 08:03 PM, dbclinton wrote: I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections Please use the same page size on _all_ pages. The last page is slightly larger than most of the previous pages. I read the PDF. My guess is that you used A4 for some pages, and Letter Size for other pages. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
Blame LibreOffice endnotes. Time for a few choice words with the developers? :) Thanks for pointing it out...I'll fix it. David On 13-10-30 07:14 PM, jonathon wrote: On 10/29/2013 08:03 PM, dbclinton wrote: I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections Please use the same page size on _all_ pages. The last page is slightly larger than most of the previous pages. I read the PDF. My guess is that you used A4 for some pages, and Letter Size for other pages. jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
On 10/30/2013 04:51 AM, Jay Lozier wrote: The best way is to check the list of file types the current LO/AOO can open versus MSO 2013. I have seen reports stating that MSO (2010 I believe) could not open files used before OfficeXP. This is where you need: * The edition of Microsoft Office; * The localization of Microsoft Office; * Which update packages have been installed; * A list of installed MSO extensions; jonathon -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 4:03 PM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I've completed a draft of my white paper making the business case for LO over MS Office. For now, for want of a better solution, I've branded it as part of the LibreOffice Document Foundation and put it in its own folder on the ODF site here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/transition-from-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper For those who can't access it there, you can download a PDF here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections and thoughts as to how it could be put to good use. Thanks for working on this whitepaper! I'll try to take a look at it later tonight. Perhaps someone might also cross-post this email to market...@global.libreoffice.org (CC'd) I've tried a couple of times to join up only to be steadfastly ignored (my email mysteriously disappears down the Internet's terrifying, gaping maw). Ah, sorry to hear that. If you're still having troubles, feel free to ping me off-list and I'll help you get your subscription squared-away. Cheers, --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
Hi David, I have nothing to add to the doc which I think provides a suitable launchpad to interest management. One comment though: Not only that, but MS Office 2010 and 2013 can't even open some documents created in earlier versions of MS Office itself, Do we actually have a reference point for this? If I was behind the bosses chair and I could see the impact of upgrading MSO then this would be a significant point. Cheers On 30/10/13 07:03, dbclinton wrote: Hi, I've completed a draft of my white paper making the business case for LO over MS Office. For now, for want of a better solution, I've branded it as part of the LibreOffice Document Foundation and put it in its own folder on the ODF site here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/transition-from-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper For those who can't access it there, you can download a PDF here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections and thoughts as to how it could be put to good use. Perhaps someone might also cross-post this email to market...@global.libreoffice.org - I've tried a couple of times to join up only to be steadfastly ignored (my email mysteriously disappears down the Internet's terrifying, gaping maw). Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
Hi Tim, Thanks for your note. I believe that my source was http://www.idealware.org/articles/msoffice_vs_openoffice.php - and specifically this: Interestingly, OpenOffice can open substantially older versions of Microsoft Office files than Microsoft Office itself can, or even some corrupted files that Microsoft Office can't open. For an IT department, OpenOffice is worth having around just for that. However, it would certainly be nice to confirm it. Does anyone have anything else on this? David On 13-10-29 10:06 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi David, I have nothing to add to the doc which I think provides a suitable launchpad to interest management. One comment though: Not only that, but MS Office 2010 and 2013 can't even open some documents created in earlier versions of MS Office itself, Do we actually have a reference point for this? If I was behind the bosses chair and I could see the impact of upgrading MSO then this would be a significant point. Cheers On 30/10/13 07:03, dbclinton wrote: Hi, I've completed a draft of my white paper making the business case for LO over MS Office. For now, for want of a better solution, I've branded it as part of the LibreOffice Document Foundation and put it in its own folder on the ODF site here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/transition-from-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper For those who can't access it there, you can download a PDF here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections and thoughts as to how it could be put to good use. Perhaps someone might also cross-post this email to market...@global.libreoffice.org - I've tried a couple of times to join up only to be steadfastly ignored (my email mysteriously disappears down the Internet's terrifying, gaping maw). Regards, David Clinton -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] White Paper
On Wed, 2013-10-30 at 00:14 -0400, dbclinton wrote: Hi Tim, Thanks for your note. I believe that my source was http://www.idealware.org/articles/msoffice_vs_openoffice.php - and specifically this: Interestingly, OpenOffice can open substantially older versions of Microsoft Office files than Microsoft Office itself can, or even some corrupted files that Microsoft Office can't open. For an IT department, OpenOffice is worth having around just for that. However, it would certainly be nice to confirm it. Does anyone have anything else on this? David Hi The best way is to check the list of file types the current LO/AOO can open versus MSO 2013. I have seen reports stating that MSO (2010 I believe) could not open files used before OfficeXP. On 13-10-29 10:06 PM, Tim Lloyd wrote: Hi David, I have nothing to add to the doc which I think provides a suitable launchpad to interest management. One comment though: Not only that, but MS Office 2010 and 2013 can't even open some documents created in earlier versions of MS Office itself, Do we actually have a reference point for this? If I was behind the bosses chair and I could see the impact of upgrading MSO then this would be a significant point. Cheers On 30/10/13 07:03, dbclinton wrote: Hi, I've completed a draft of my white paper making the business case for LO over MS Office. For now, for want of a better solution, I've branded it as part of the LibreOffice Document Foundation and put it in its own folder on the ODF site here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/white_papers/transition-from-ms-office-to-libreoffice-white-paper For those who can't access it there, you can download a PDF here: http://www.marbitz.com/portfolio/LO_White_Paper.pdf I'm interested in any and all comments, corrections and thoughts as to how it could be put to good use. Perhaps someone might also cross-post this email to market...@global.libreoffice.org - I've tried a couple of times to join up only to be steadfastly ignored (my email mysteriously disappears down the Internet's terrifying, gaping maw). Regards, David Clinton -- Jay Lozier jsloz...@gmail.com -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
Hi :) The marketing list has already had this post from Charles. It's not completely relevant to the topic but does show a new place that has an increasing number of the marketing tools laid out much more sensibly and easier to access. Hello everyone, This is a reminder that we have an owncloud repository for marketing files and content, as requested in Milano: https://owncloud.documentfoundation.org/index.php/apps/files?dir=//Marketing You can download files without any registration. It's public. In order to upload you need to register by sending your desidered username to hostmaster AT documentfoundation DOT org . Thanks! Regards from Tom :) On 22 October 2013 19:46, Robinson Tryon bishop.robin...@gmail.com wrote: [I'm cc'ing Marketing] On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: You have a marketing team? :) Hi David, LibreOffice Marketing has a wiki page here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing ...and a mailing list here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing#Communication TDF released a whitepaper about migrations in March: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/03/27/tdf-releases-white-paper-to-help-migrations-to-libreoffice/ More information about migrations sounds great to me. I'm interested in giving some presentations for local nonprofits, and having more papers and feedback about migration experiences would help me showcase LibreOffice :-) Cheers, --R On 13-10-21 02:56 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's a brilliant idea! Have the marketing team produced anything like that? Regards from Tom :) On Monday, 21 October 2013, 18:57, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
On 13-10-23 05:58 AM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 10/22/13 9:21 PM, dbclinton wrote: Are there any resources lying around that could be useful...like something that documents the time/labor costs of closed platform systems or handling malware? Unfortunately not. Microsoft has managed to avoid the publication of all the reports on these subjects, and has plenty of documents about the opposite statement (i.e. how expensive are open platforms). I've seen some of those MS-sponsored documents. :) The head of software development for a very large European IT firm told me recently that MS owes them a huge amount of money for all the countless hours of lost productivity caused by Win8's Metro desktop. I guess I would have to focus on the published site licensing fees. Analysts do have these data, but will never release them unless you cover them in gold. Googling about PDF documents on the subject will find a number of analyst documents, where you can find some hints but no data. I'll take a look. Thanks. David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
Hi Robinson, Jean also pointed me to the migration white paper and I went to take a look. He did a great job documenting the process of transition, which was a little bit of what I was thinking of doing. I think my idea - to make the business case for transition - is a good complement to that paper. Are there any resources lying around that could be useful...like something that documents the time/labor costs of closed platform systems or handling malware? Regards, David On 13-10-22 02:46 PM, Robinson Tryon wrote: [I'm cc'ing Marketing] On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 3:05 PM, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: You have a marketing team? :) Hi David, LibreOffice Marketing has a wiki page here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing ...and a mailing list here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Marketing#Communication TDF released a whitepaper about migrations in March: http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2013/03/27/tdf-releases-white-paper-to-help-migrations-to-libreoffice/ More information about migrations sounds great to me. I'm interested in giving some presentations for local nonprofits, and having more papers and feedback about migration experiences would help me showcase LibreOffice :-) Cheers, --R On 13-10-21 02:56 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's a brilliant idea! Have the marketing team produced anything like that? Regards from Tom :) On Monday, 21 October 2013, 18:57, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] white paper
Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] white paper
You have a marketing team? :) On 13-10-21 02:56 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) I think it's a brilliant idea! Have the marketing team produced anything like that? Regards from Tom :) On Monday, 21 October 2013, 18:57, dbclinton dbc...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm thinking of creating a formal white paper presenting the case for LibreOffice in a small business environment (1-50 employees). I have a vague memory of something similar being discussed here before. Does such a thing already exist or is it in production? Does the gang think it's a good idea? Regards, David -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org mailto:unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
