Hi Olivier,
Thank you for that.
I had seen your material on pivot charts and am putting it to good use in
drafting the update to Chapter 8.
I am grateful for the information on the PT cell styles which was new to me.
I'll add a small section to cover this useful feature.
Regards,
Steve
I wonder whether anybody could help me with two areas of uncertainty that I
have with Chapter 9 of the Calc Guide, Data Analysis.
Firstly, Figure 21 in the existing LO4.1 version of this chapter shows the
Solver dialog with an Options button. However the dialog accessed through this
button is
Olivier,
Thank you for that information. I didn't previously know about META bugs
and was also interested to find 108827 (META for the Calc Functions).
As you are probably aware, I'm currently working on Chapter 18 of the Calc
Guide (Description of Functions). This is a somewhat bigger task than
t.
Thanks again.
Regards,
Steve
On Sat, 14 Dec 2019 at 13:00, Regina Henschel
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> Hi Steve,
>
> why not discuss it on the list?
>
> Stephen Fanning schrieb am 14-Dec-19 um 12:41:
> > Hi Regina,
> >
> > Many thanks for those helpful comments, many of which ar
All,
Following discussion at last week’s team meeting, I have updated Chapters 8
(Pivot Tables) and 9 (Data Analysis) of the 6.2 Calc Guide to (hopefully)
improve the indexing of those chapters. Please note:
(1)Before doing anything I copied the latest files for those chapters
from the Draft
I have taken chapter 14 (Setting up and Customizing Calc) for a second
review.
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A draft update to this chapter is available for first review.
(Note - the equivalent material was in Appendix B in the 4.1 Calc Guide)
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All,
I tend to agree with the thought that dropping first drafts into the
Feedback folder rather than the Drafts folder isn't very intuitive.
But more importantly, when I joined the team earlier in the year, I really
struggled to understand the in-use workflow because it didn't match the
Hi Jean,
While performing the review, I have noticed that the figures in this
chapter appear to have been generated from a Mac.
Would it be preferable to replace them with Windows 10 equivalents and, if
so, would it help if I did so?
Regards,
Steve
On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 at 13:42, Stephen
p/documentation
>
> Please forward the agenda that you want to discuss in the pad
>
>
>
> Em 23/11/2019 13:55, Stephen Fanning escreveu:
> > Hi Olivier,
> >
> > Do you still hold Documentation Team meetings?
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Steve
>
All,
I am putting the finishing touches to an updated version of Chapter 18 of
the Calc Guide (Description of Functions) and a question occurs to me.
At the moment we seem to have at least four user-level descriptions of the
500 or so functions offered by Calc. These descriptions are contained
Olivier,
As you are aware I have noted some discrepancies between the Function
Wizard and the Help system with regards to the descriptions of the 500+
Calc functions. I have kept a list of the issues found so far and will
raise bugs in due course.
However the scope of cross-checking the
, the chapter should be withdrawn from future issues of the Calc
Guide.
Regards,
Steve
On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 at 01:09, Jean Weber wrote:
> On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 18:13 Olivier Hallot <
> olivier.hal...@libreoffice.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Steve
> >
> > Em 26/11/
Hi Olivier,
A couple of weeks ago you mentioned Bug 92084, which relates to the absence
of information in the Help files for the OPT_BARRIER, OPT_PROB_HIT,
OPT_PROB_INMONEY,
and OPT_TOUCH functions.
Appendix B of the 4.1 Calc Guide contains descriptions for each of these
four functions. Could
Hi Olivier,
I have drafted some text to address this bug. I've attached a PDF version
to the bug and will email the Writer version to you separately.
Please let me know if you need me to do anything else on this bug.
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 28 Nov 2019 at 10:02, Steve Fanning
wrote:
>
Hi Olivier
Due to unforeseen circumstances (I've hurt my back!), my usual Wednesday
evening activity is cancelled this week and I'd like to attend the team
meeting after all.
I have put a couple of discussion points in the agenda.
Regards,
Steve
On Tue, 26 Nov 2019 at 13:22, Stephen Fanning
Hi Olivier,
Do you still hold Documentation Team meetings?
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>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
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By the way, I forgot to mention in the first email that I'm only looking at
the Windows installation at the moment - I've yet to delve into the Linux
and Mac equivalents.
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Steve
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>
&
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Olivier,
I came away after yesterday's team meeting thinking that I understood, but
I was wrong!
There appear to be a significant number of shortcuts described in the Help
files that should not exist according to the list of Calc shortcuts to be
found in Tools > Customize > Keyboard. I have
I have returned Chapter 14 (Customizing LO) to the Feedback folder.
Regards,
Steve
On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 13:11, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have returned Chapter 16 (Appendix B - Open Source) to the Feedback
> folder.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Sat, 8 Feb 202
I have completed the first review of Chapter 12 (Creating HTML files) and
returned the updated file to the Feedback folder.
I have taken Chapter 9 (Getting Started with Math) for first review.
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 27 Feb 2020 at 16:05, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have taken Chapter
Unfortunately I cannot attend this week at the suggested time.
Regards,
Steve Fanning
On Wed, 4 Mar 2020 at 21:06, Olivier Hallot
wrote:
> Hi Documentation Team (Guides, Help contents) !
>
> Shall we resume our documetnation call? Is affirmative I suggest that
> our documentation team
In Math you can save a formula either in .odf or .mml formats.
Can anybody say at which Math build the .mml option changed from MathML
1.01 to MathML 2.0?
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other shortcuts that I can discover from the help files or other sources.
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wrote:
> All,
>
> Following up on this email from a few weeks ago, I have started collating
>
I have taken Chapter 12 (Creating HTML files) for first review.
Regards,
Steve
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 at 19:17, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have returned Chapter 14 (Customizing LO) to the Feedback folder.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, 10 Feb 2020 at 13:11,
I have completed the first review of Chapter 9 (Getting Started with
Math) and returned the updated file to the Feedback folder.
Regards,
Steve
On Fri, 28 Feb 2020 at 20:24, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have completed the first review of Chapter 12 (Creating HTML files) and
> re
2020 at 19:50, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have returned Chapter 3 to the Feedback folder. I hope that my tracked
> edits are correct and helpful. There are also a small number of queries in
> the form of embedded comments.
>
> I have taken Chapter 10 for first review.
>
&g
Jean,
I'm doing the first review of this chapter.
In the context of writing for our target audience, I was surprised that
within a first introduction to the Writer Sidebar, we are describing
features that are only available by selecting "Enable experimental features
(may be unstable)" in Tools >
I have returned Chapter 4 to the Feedback folder.
I have taken Chapter 5 (Calc) for first review.
Regards,
Steve
On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 at 20:21, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
>
> I have finished my review of Chapter 10 (Printing etc) and returned the
> updated version to the Feedba
I have returned Chapter 5 to the Feedback folder.
I have taken Chapters 14 (Customizing LO) and 16 (Open Source) for first
review.
Regards,
Steve
On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 17:20, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have returned Chapter 4 to the Feedback folder.
>
> I have taken Chapte
Thanks Jean,
My preference would be to wait until the chapters have been reviewed but
other views welcome.
Regards,
Steve
On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 07:46, Jean Weber wrote:
> I've updated all the chapters of the Getting Started Guide to LO v6.4.
> I've also done the front and back covers and the
I have returned Chapter 16 (Appendix B - Open Source) to the Feedback
folder.
Regards,
Steve
On Sat, 8 Feb 2020 at 14:16, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have returned Chapter 5 to the Feedback folder.
>
> I have taken Chapters 14 (Customizing LO) and 16 (Open Source) for first
All,
Following up on this email from a few weeks ago, I have started collating a
more comprehensive list of the implemented shortcuts across operating
systems so that we can raise bugs on the Help (if required), update books,
etc.
Regards,
Steve
On Fri, 10 Jan 2020 at 09:35, Stephen Fanning
Hi Jean,
I have taken the Preface and Chapter 1 for first review.
Regards,
Steve Fanning
On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:53, Jean Weber wrote:
> I have begun updating the Getting Started Guide from LO 6.0 to 6.4. I have
> completed the Preface and Chapters 1, 2, and 3, which are in the Drafts
>
Please could anybody give me simple example in Calc or Writer showing the
impact of selecting / deselecting the *Tools > Options > LibreOffice >
General > Help > Extended tips* option? I have yet to find a control which
gives a different tooltip dependent on this setting.
In a similar way, could
I have completed a first review of these two items and returned them to the
Feedback folder.
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 11:43, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> Hi Jean,
>
> I have taken the Preface and Chapter 1 for first review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Fanning
>
Regina and Drew,
Many thanks for clarifying that for me.
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 9 Jan 2020 at 15:26, Regina Henschel
wrote:
> Hi Stephen,
>
> Stephen Fanning schrieb am 09-Jan-20 um 15:04:
> > Please could anybody give me simple example in Calc or Writer showing the
> >
Kees & Jean,
Just for the record I have rejected one of my own review comments in the
version in Published. On page 6, I had errioneously changed a button legend
from the correct US nomenclature ("Use LibreOffice dialogs") to the
inappropriate UK nomenclature.
Apologies for any confusion.
, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have taken Chapter 2 for first review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve Fanning
>
>
> On Wed, 8 Jan 2020 at 06:53, Jean Weber wrote:
>
>> I have begun updating the Getting Started Guide from LO 6.0 to 6.4. I have
>> completed the
to go through it today.
> > Jean
> >
> > On Wed, 15 Jan 2020 at 06:39 Stephen Fanning
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have completed a first review of chapter 2 and returned the file to
> the
> >> Feedback folder, including tracked changes and embedded c
I have returned Chapter 3 to the Feedback folder. I hope that my tracked
edits are correct and helpful. There are also a small number of queries in
the form of embedded comments.
I have taken Chapter 10 for first review.
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 10:52, Stephen Fanning
wrote
All,
As I mentioned in a previous email, I have done some work to collate a list
of known Calc keyboard shortcuts, detailing the discrepancies between the
software and the Help files. This is in the form of a reasonably large
Writer file containing tables, which can be found in NextCloud
the information
onto the mailing list.
Please could you have a look at it and let me know what you think we should
do about this issue?
Regards,
Steve
On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 17:45, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> Olivier,
>
> I came away after yesterday's team meeting thinking that I understood
I have taken Chapter 15 (Keyboard Shortcuts) for first review.
Regards,
Steve
On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 20:00, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have completed the first review of Chapter 9 (Getting Started with
> Math) and returned the updated file to the Feedback folder.
>
> Regard
?
Regards,
Steve Fanning
On Fri, 6 Mar 2020 at 19:41, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have taken Chapter 15 (Keyboard Shortcuts) for first review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 20:00, Stephen Fanning
> wrote:
>
>> I have completed the first revi
Thanks to Cor and Dave. I've removed the relevant line from the draft
chapter.
Regards,
Steve
On Sun, 8 Mar 2020 at 13:05, Dave Barton wrote:
> On 08/03/2020 12:38, Cor Nouws wrote:
> > Hi Stephen,
> >
> > Stephen Fanning wrote on 08/03/2020 00:33:
> >> I am
Hi Olivier,
As you are aware I am doing some work collating information about Calc's
functions.
For each function, I have been comparing the syntax specified in the
Function Wizard against the syntax specified in the Help files. This
process has left me with some queries / suggestions about
All,
I would be grateful for opinions please from some of the experienced
members of the team.
As you may be aware from previous emails I’ve sent to the list, I have some
reservations about Appendix A to the Calc Guide entitled Keyboard
Shortcuts. The can be summarized by two main points:
(1) I
Olivier,
I seem to recall that you experienced one or two problems when you collated
all of the individual chapters of the 6.2 Calc Guide to produce a master
document.
Please could you give me an overview of what is involved in this process
and where the problem areas lie? I've used master
review had
concluded.
I am recommending that this chapter re-starts its review cycle and Dan
Lewis has kindly agreed to do the 1st review of this update.
The updated file is in the Drafts folder (with changes tracked).
Regards,
Steve Fanning
On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 at 19:55, Stephen Fanning
wrote
Hi Olivier,
Please could you advise of your current thinking with regards to Bug 129171
("No entries in Help system for Calc functions FLOOR.XCL, FLOOR.MATH and
NETWORKDAYS_EXCEL2003").
I am particularly concerned that the help files contain details of the
CEILING.XCL and CEILING.MATH functions
I would like to hear the opinions of members of the Documentation Team on a
potential improvement to the Calc Guide.
As you probably know, Calc provides a library of over 500 functions. The
6.2 Calc Guide includes an Appendix B entitled Description of Functions
which occupies over 70 pages (not
.
Regards,
Steve
On Tue, 24 Mar 2020 at 19:31, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have taken Chapter 8 (Base) for second review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
> On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 15:37, Stephen Fanning
> wrote:
>
>> I have completed the first review of Chapter 13 (Macros) a
, in this case, was said to be 6.3.5.2.
Regards,
Steve
On Wed, 25 Mar 2020 at 18:25, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> As indicated in a separate thread, I've struggled to follow the
> instructions specified in chapter 8 to create a table using the Table
> Wizard. Bug 131576 has been raised.
>
> So
Please could one of our Base experts advise me?
I am reviewing Chapter 8 of the draft 6.4 Getting Started Guide and am
missing something. I have followed the text in the section entitled “Using
the Wizard to create a table” and have selected the fields without incident
(matching Figure 4).
Many thanks Leo.
When returning comments, I think we normally put the updated file in the
Feedback folder. On this occasion don't worry, I've moved the Preface and
updated the spreadsheet accordingly. Worth bearing in mind in future though.
Regards,
Steve
On Sat, 25 Apr 2020 at 19:57, Leo
All,
As discussed and agreed at yesterday’s Documentation Team meeting, I am
planning to create an updated version of the Calc Guide for 6.4. I have
created a suitable folder in NextCloud and put a status tracking
spreadsheet there.
Being in strict lockdown at the moment, I have time on my
Can anybody recall why we omitted this appendix from the 6.2 PDF version of
the Calc Guide?
Was there a technical reason, or was it a simple oversight in the master
document?
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Thanks Leo.
I have accepted the changes in the Preface and Chapter 1, and both are back
in the Draft folder ready for a second reveiwer.
With regards to your comment on Chapter 1, page 15 (about changing the
direction of focus movement for the Enter key), I agree that more needed to
be said as
All,
I am considering the changes necessary to upgrade the Calc Guide to 6.4.
One of the issues we chose to ignore in the 6.2 Calc Guide was
multi-threading. The 6.2 Calc Guide contains the following mention of it,
when describing the Tools > Options > LibreOffice Calc > Calculate page:
CPU
Hi Luboš,
Many thanks for your thoughts on the checkbox, which confirms what I
expected.
As for the processing itself, I remain unclear about how Calc allocates
tasks to threads. Can we give the user any general advice on how he could
structure his spreadsheet to gain the maximum performance
Mike and Luboš,
Many thanks for your help on this topic.
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 23 Apr 2020 at 11:16, Mike Kaganski
wrote:
> On 23.04.2020 13:12, Luboš Luňák wrote:
> > On Thursday 23 of April 2020, Stephen Fanning wrote:
> >> As for the processing itself, I remain uncl
Hi Olivier,
I am aware that you have been doing some experimentation with the 6.2 Calc
Guide files to investigate problems with the generated PDF.
Have you made any significant changes to any files on your computer that
need to be put back into NextCloud? Or shall I start work on a 6.4 version
All,
It appears that some aspects of the notebook bar are now enabled in the
default 6.4.3.2 build (i.e. they are not experimental). Examples are the
user interface options of Tabbed, Tabbed Compact and Groupedbar Compact in
Calc. There are also various related user interface options available in
ide (perhaps in an Appendix?) and refer other guides to that one.
>
> Jean
>
> On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 9:18 AM Stephen Fanning
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > It appears that some aspects of the notebook bar are now enabled in the
> > default 6.4.3.2 build (i.
(for second review) or the Published folder (when finished).
I hope that sounds okay to everybody.
Regards,
Steve
On Tue, 12 May 2020 at 21:16, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> All,
>
> The 6.4 Calc Guide is progressing well, with 13 of the 17 chapters now
> updated and available for review.
All,
To clarify my own thoughts and, hopefully, to help anybody else who wishes
to be involved, I have tried to write down the steps involved in updating
and reviewing one chapter of the Calc Guide. Please see below.
(Please note that I am not intending to define the steps involved for any
other
roposed changes and had accepts all. Should we add a
> notification in the Guide status sheet?
>
> Regards, Kees
>
> Stephen Fanning schreef op 18.05.2020 14:17:
> > All,
> >
> > To clarify my own thoughts and, hopefully, to help anybody else who
> > wishes
> &g
Hi Leo,
Thanks for your helpful comments on Chapter 6 (Printing, Exporting,
E‑mailing, and Signing). I have actioned them and returned the document to
the Draft folder ready for second review.
I have also updated the section entitled “Controlling printing” so that it
now describes the layout of
Hi Leo,
Thanks again for your comments on Chapters 7 (Using Formulas and Functions)
and 8 (Using Pivot Tables). I have actioned them and returned the documents
to the Draft folder ready for second review.
Regards,
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Hi Leo,
Thanks for the comments on chapter 2. I have processed them, accepted most
of the changes, and returned the file to the Draft folder ready for its
second review.
For the record:
1. With respect to your comment about the white space after Figure 3. I
agree that this needs to be
All,
The 6.4 Calc Guide is progressing well, with 13 of the 17 chapters now
updated and available for review. The other 4 will be ready soon.
Leo Moons has kindly performed the first review of 5 chapters, so they need
a second review. The other 8 completed chapters haven’t been reviewed yet.
ust
> the wizard didn't handle it
>
>
>
> So I have actually to update my last patch to set it right.
>
> Kind regards
> Olivier
>
> Note... we should move this thread to the doc list... other may be
> interested in the subject.
>
>
> Em 19/03/2020 08:09, Stephen
I have completed the first review of chapter 11 and returned it to the
Feedback folder.
Regards,
Steve
On Mon, 16 Mar 2020 at 20:10, Stephen Fanning
wrote:
> I have taken chapters 11 (Images and Graphics) and 13 (Macros) for first
> review.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
&
I have completed the first review of Chapter 13 (Macros) and returned it to
the Feedback folder.
Regards,
Steve
On Tue, 17 Mar 2020 at 20:06, Stephen Fanning
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> I have completed the first review of chapter 11 and returned it to the
> Feedback folder.
>
> Regards,
>
>
Is it just me or is opengrok.libreoffice.org broken at the moment?
Regards,
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I am reviewing Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) of the Getting Started Guide
v6.4 and have a question which somebody may be able to answer for me.
In a section entitled “Getting help”, the following description is given of
the Escape key’s function in the context of help information: “In
I have taken chapters 11 (Images and Graphics) and 13 (Macros) for first
review.
Regards,
Steve
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> I have completed a first review of Appendix A (Keyboard Shortcuts) and
> placed the updated document in the Feedback folder.
&g
I have taken Chapter 8 (Base) for second review.
Regards,
Steve
On Sat, 21 Mar 2020 at 15:37, Stephen Fanning
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> I have completed the first review of Chapter 13 (Macros) and returned it
> to the Feedback folder.
>
> Regards,
>
> Steve
>
>
> On Tue, 17 Mar 202
Hi Leo,
Thanks for the comments on chapters 4 and 5. I have addressed these (apart
from notes below), removed the tracked changes, and put the latest versions
in the Draft folder ready for 2nd review.
Exceptions are:
1. In Chapter 4 (Styles and Templates), at step 2 just after Figure 19.
Thanks Olivier.
Please could somebody remind which of the available icon styles should be
selected for taking screenshots to go in the guides? (The Contributors’
Guide on the wiki currently says "Tango" but I can't recall whether that
advice has been superseded.)
Regards,
Steve
On Thu, 7 May
I'm sorry if I have given the wrong impression but you should not assume
that we are discussing a bug or a regression in this instance.
Regards,
Steve
On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 14:22, Pulkit Krishna
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> On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:47 PM Stephen Fanning >
> wrote:
>
> > D
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sorry to hear that you aren't well and hope that you recover
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