RE: [DQSD-Users] autodetect
I certainly admit that I use the calc feature a ton!.. but why have special handling for things like currency coversion, language translation etc. which are really just other internet searches?... The calc function is unique to the others in the list in that the function is doesnt leave the box, but even the calc function could be made to be consistent like the other contained searches - like the temp conversion, alarm, timer etc... It does make sense to me to have the URL auto recognition... FWIW.. Monty -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Carr Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 10:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] autodetect Man, I dunno. I love not having to type in search names for some stuff (phone lookups, calcs, urls, etc.). And, I very seldom use the menu. Glenn - Original Message - From: Monty Scroggins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] autodetect My opinion is to remove all the automatic recognitions. Early on when we were discussing the idea of moving the searches to their own standalone search files, Dave indicated he wanted to leave some of them in the interests of backward compatability for the people who had already been using the toolbar.Since there really arent but a few of them anyway, I would suggest moving all the auto-recognition stuff out and put everything in its own xml file.. Its really not much of an adjustment to have to type the search prefix.. especially since now (and this functionality wasnt available when Dave indicated his preference of keeping the auto recognition stuff) since the searches can be executed via the menu.. FWIW Monty --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] finding text inside the help file
There is an expand-all and collapse all link in the help window.. (actually I think these functions were implemented to facilitate searching the help window)they are just above the category table. Also have you checked out the excellent "qsfind" function? Once you get hooked on the qsfind function, you'll probably never search the help window again... Monty -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of SGPSent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:34 AMTo: dqsdSubject: [DQSD-Users] finding text inside the help file In my wish list: There are so many searches that I find it impossible to remember them all, so I keep going back to the help file andpressing CTRL+F to open IE's find dialog. Most of the times can't findthe search text I keyed in, even though it is in the help file,unless I manually expand all categories before CTRL+F.Can someone improve usability for help file searches? Here's a suggestion. In the help page, add a button to expandall categories at once, or preferably add a button to both expand all categories and then invoke IE's find dialog. Do You Yahoo!?HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs
RE: [DQSD-Users] autodetect
I kind of agreewith Monty. Consistencywill help future development, I'm sure. Perhapsthere is amiddle ground. Could the alias function be expanded to define the current special handling patterns as aliases? Then a recommended alias file could be added to the standard distribution to provide backwards compatibility. Monty Scroggins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: I certainly admit that I use the calc feature a ton!.. but why have specialhandling for things like currency coversion, language translation etc. whichare really just other internet searches?... The calc function is unique tothe others in the list in that the function is doesnt leave the box, buteven the calc function could be made to be consistent like the othercontained "searches" - like the temp conversion, alarm, timer etc... Itdoes make sense to me to have the URL auto recognition...FWIW..MontyDo You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs
[DQSD-Users] Week start day
Here in Spain, the first day of week are monday. I edit preferences.js and localprefs.js but I've not found this preference. How can I change the start of week in calendar? Thanks. - Tu correo gratis en MixMail http://www.mixmail.com Ya.com Tarifa Plana 15,99 + 1 mes GRATIS http://acceso.ya.com/tarifaplana --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id01
Re: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ?
As it relates to DQSD, I've found the DQSD direction to be focused on pure searching. I maintain a separate build of DQSD with an add-on I wrote that I call Snippets. Snippets allow you to save chunks of web pages (without knowing HTML). When I introduced it originally, some felt it was outside the scope of DQSD. Dan, Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? Your example was one reason I went through the pain of experimenting with the GoogleSpell add-on. If there's missing functionality that needs to be added to DQSD which is generic enough for all searches/add-ons to take advantage of, then it makes sense to add the functionality. _But_, if core functionality is modified to support a single add-on or search, then we're setting a bad precendent. One that will result in DQSD having various chunks of code in the core source which are only used by a single add-on/search. IMO, some of the core code already matches that description (calendar) and should be moved to an add-on. I've since though of integrating various features into DQSD. I've done a lot of (unrelated) work with RSS new feeds, and I have considered adding the feature to DQSD to show a news ticker during idle time. RSS is really the first fruit of a semantic web coming to harvest. However, the DQSD direction of sticking to the bread and butter searching leaves me a little uninterested in working on such things. Again, I'd recommend trying to add it as an add-on. If there were enough interest I'd love to fork DQSD into something less constrictive. At the same time, I'd hate to do it too. Go for it. Glenn --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601
RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ?
Dan, I was one of the original opponents to the Snippets feature. But then I had a use for it, so I was forced to change my opinion. I have a few questions for you about it. 1. Can you think of any way it can become an add-on? I'm probably not much help, but I'm very willing to try and help. 2. Does it only pull stuff from web pages? Can it pull stuff from Word, other apps, etc.? 3. Where can I get it? Where can I get a 3.0 beta 24 flavor of it? 4. What other DQSD utils do you have. Sorry if I discouraged you when you were working on Snippets. I do software testing for a large company and am always fighting the battle of function creep and scope creep because 1 customer wants it and is willing to pay for it. Thanks, JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin, Daniel Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? If it were a separate set of XML files, this would work fine. Unfortunately it alters search.htm and helpmenu.js. Given that, if it's not part of the base code, it has to be updated with every release. To dqsd's credit, that is far too frequent to make it practical. The RSS news feed stuff might be possible as an add-on. I honestly haven't had a chance to try it. Does JS support overloaded functions? It's perhaps the only way I can think of effectively doing things like this. Go for it. Forking is...never the best solution, IMHO. This is why I've kept my current fork pretty much to myself. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Carr Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? As it relates to DQSD, I've found the DQSD direction to be focused on pure searching. I maintain a separate build of DQSD with an add-on I wrote that I call Snippets. Snippets allow you to save chunks of web pages (without knowing HTML). When I introduced it originally, some felt it was outside the scope of DQSD. Dan, Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? Your example was one reason I went through the pain of experimenting with the GoogleSpell add-on. If there's missing functionality that needs to be added to DQSD which is generic enough for all searches/add-ons to take advantage of, then it makes sense to add the functionality. _But_, if core functionality is modified to support a single add-on or search, then we're setting a bad precendent. One that will result in DQSD having various chunks of code in the core source which are only used by a single add-on/search. IMO, some of the core code already matches that description (calendar) and should be moved to an add-on. I've since though of integrating various features into DQSD. I've done a lot of (unrelated) work with RSS new feeds, and I have considered adding the feature to DQSD to show a news ticker during idle time. RSS is really the first fruit of a semantic web coming to harvest. However, the DQSD direction of sticking to the bread and butter searching leaves me a little uninterested in working on such things. Again, I'd recommend trying to add it as an add-on. If there were enough interest I'd love to fork DQSD into something less constrictive. At the same time, I'd hate to do it too. Go for it. Glenn --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=8601 --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: OSDN - Tired of that same old cell phone? Get a new here for FREE! https://www.inphonic.com/r.asp?r=sourceforge1refcode1=vs3390 ___ Dqsd-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dqsd-users
[DQSD-Users] Add-ons
Obviously I've taken this subject way off corse, so I'm changing the subject line. Don't be sorry - discouragement is part of life. 1. Can you think of any way it can become an add-on? I'm probably not much help, but I'm very willing to try and help. I've thought and thought, but have no solutions to making seperate add ons that modify core code. Although I'm curious if anyone responds to my prior question, Can Javascript functions be overloaded?. Everything I could abstract to an XML, I did. 2. Does it only pull stuff from web pages? Can it pull stuff from Word, other apps, etc.? You can paste anything into it. It will contain the HTML that Word pastes to the clipboard - which is the equivalent of Word's Save As Web Page. For the most part, it will look in the snippets nearly identically to what was in Word - although this isn't always the case (as you'll know if you've ever used the Save As Webpage function). 3. Where can I get it? Where can I get a 3.0 beta 24 flavor of it? I haven't upgraded it to v3, but it is on my to-do list. Currently I'm using an old version of DQSD. :( 4. What other DQSD utils do you have. I have tinkered (emphasis on tinkered) with: - fold-out folders (basically a drive explorer on the menu, with a pre-defined starting point...My Favorites, My Documents, etc.) - changing the textarea to a DIV with contenteditable=true. This looks better and is more functionable than a textarea or input. It can include HTML content (links, pictures, etc) but can still be typed into. Mozilla 1.1 is going to support this - after that you are going to see these everywhere. Remember that word, contenteditable. :) - making DQSD work as a Search Frame in Internet Explorer. This is different than a search bar. We are talking about that pane that can show things like history and such. But mostly I just have I deas that I haven't had time to work on. As I've mentioned before, I work in RD - it's my job to let my mind wander and cause scope creep while people such as yourself tell me why it won't work. :) Probably my next attempt will be attempting to display RSS news feeds in DQSD. I've already written an ASP based RSS newsfeed reader - and I think it would be cool - despite the scope creep - in DQSD. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John W. Bairen, Jr. Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? Dan, I was one of the original opponents to the Snippets feature. But then I had a use for it, so I was forced to change my opinion. I have a few questions for you about it. 1. Can you think of any way it can become an add-on? I'm probably not much help, but I'm very willing to try and help. 2. Does it only pull stuff from web pages? Can it pull stuff from Word, other apps, etc.? 3. Where can I get it? Where can I get a 3.0 beta 24 flavor of it? 4. What other DQSD utils do you have. Sorry if I discouraged you when you were working on Snippets. I do software testing for a large company and am always fighting the battle of function creep and scope creep because 1 customer wants it and is willing to pay for it. Thanks, JB -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin, Daniel Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 5:09 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:RE: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? If it were a separate set of XML files, this would work fine. Unfortunately it alters search.htm and helpmenu.js. Given that, if it's not part of the base code, it has to be updated with every release. To dqsd's credit, that is far too frequent to make it practical. The RSS news feed stuff might be possible as an add-on. I honestly haven't had a chance to try it. Does JS support overloaded functions? It's perhaps the only way I can think of effectively doing things like this. Go for it. Forking is...never the best solution, IMHO. This is why I've kept my current fork pretty much to myself. -Dan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Glenn Carr Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 3:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DQSD-Users] dsdq and knowledge management ? As it relates to DQSD, I've found the DQSD direction to be focused on pure searching. I maintain a separate build of DQSD with an add-on I wrote that I call Snippets. Snippets allow you to save chunks of web pages (without knowing HTML). When I introduced it originally, some felt it was outside the scope of DQSD. Dan, Why don't you package the Snippets add-on (similar to the googlespell example) so that it can be independently packaged, downloaded, and installed from SF? Your example was one
