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Keith Whitwell wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
Keith Whitwell wrote:
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Jens -
Can you try with the old libdri.a, but the new libdrm.a. That's
where I
would expect the dependency for the new drmCommand interface to be
resolved.
But that's exactly what the SF
Zilvinas,
Thanks for posting this data. It's nice to see confirmation of how
things were intended to work.
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(or is that a known issure?).
Make sure your DRM driver is recompiled for your kernel. Best to use
the DRM driver in the DRI source tree. cd to
xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel and make
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main site until we've all had a chance to look at the
new format and get familiar with it.
I use the current site quite a bit, and this would ease any transition
for me.
Thanks,
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working on this, or is this a class
assignment?
Just curious.
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be an even better prototype, but I'm looking for an easier
proof of concept:-)
If I can get 2D and kernel sharing access, what problems do you foresee
with getting multiple 3D clients to participate using a policy similar
to TDFX?
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clarity.
Regards,
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and HW renderers don't always generate the same
results. Some extensions are only available in one or the other. Also,
you'll hit a performance cliff.
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the static allocation for a private back buffer when we only have a
single 3D window. Once we have more than one, we fall back to using the
window clip list for utilizing a single full screen back and depth
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lists for all affected windows. The 3DDRP has to get this information
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thinking out loud...
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far is very amazing to me. You really ought to give
code reading a try, I think someone with a quick mind like yours will be
able to pick it up relatively quickly.
Just my 2 cents.
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But onto the control_poster now, expect a .png of that sometime.
I see it. I'll respond to that next.
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honestly looked at this architecture and representing diagrams so
much over the last 4 years that it's hard for me to abstract the
basics. That's where your fresh perspective and good questions has been
very helpful.
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to
the public in future versions of the XFree86 X Server.
We'll be starting this project right away and using the DRI repository
for our open development.
Regards,
Jens
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plenty of information
at http://www.siggraph.org
Just FYI, early registration deadline ends Friday, June 14th.
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David D. Hagood wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
The Weather Channel is funding TG to develop an open source 3D DRI
driver for the ATI Radeon 8500 graphics card. The driver will be
released to the XFree86 Project around Q4 of 2002, to be distributed to
the public in future versions
support in the FireGL
binary only driver.
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not a bad idea
you may CC dri-devel to let other people put in their 2c.
The idea of raising the visibility of our project is a good one. I'm
copying dri-devel because there are no bad questions.
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Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Wed, 2002-06-05 at 01:05, Jens Owen wrote:
Have you seen any clear bugs when the server regenerates?
After Linus asked the questions regarding locking optimizations for the
Radeon, I decided to explore the current policies in the Radeon driver.
After
=0xbacc)
at ../sysdeps/generic/libc-start.c:129
I'm building the development branch from the XFree86 repository right
now to see if that yields any different results.
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Jens Owen wrote:
While looking at the DRI overhead, I got curious about x11perf results.
Consequently, I tried a run, just to get a baseline, and segfaulted the
server.
[...]
I'm building the development branch from the XFree86 repository right
now to see if that yields any different
Kevin E Martin wrote:
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:05:05PM -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
Kevin,
Have you seen any clear bugs when the server regenerates?
Not yet, but I haven't looked yet. The code is not currently in a state
that I can test this, but I will add it to the list of things
Jens Owen wrote:
Kevin E Martin wrote:
On Tue, Jun 04, 2002 at 05:05:05PM -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
Kevin,
Have you seen any clear bugs when the server regenerates?
Not yet, but I haven't looked yet. The code is not currently in a state
that I can test this, but I will add
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Alan Hourihane wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:35:28PM -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
Tim Rowley wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
It would be interesting to hear more details from their developers
regarding the comment they put in their README: If an OpenGL
application is forcibly
in the very near
future, after the DMA is fully functional. I think this is certain.
I am really glad here. That's exactly what I asked yesterday:)
Sergey,
Please not that Jose is talking about the Mach64 driver specifically, on
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Good catch!
I see you've already commited that patch. That's great.
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Keith Whitwell wrote:
Linus Torvalds wrote:
On Mon, 27 May 2002, Jens Owen wrote:
This is an education for me, too. Thanks for the info. Any idea how
heavy IOCTL's are on a P4?
Much heavier. For some yet unexplained reason, a P4 takes about 1us to do
a simple system call
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José Fonseca wrote:
On 2002.05.27 16:28 Jens Owen wrote:
...
If we do get some type of indirect rendering path working quicker, then
perhaps we could tighten up these defaults so that the usage model
required explicit administrative permision to a user before being
allowed access
Tim Rowley wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
It would be interesting to hear more details from their developers
regarding the comment they put in their README: If an OpenGL
application is forcibly terminated by closing the X connection then
there may be leftovers on the desktop. This appears
-highmem.diffName: p_drm_pte-highmem.diff
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Mesa should handle rendering into any visual, including overlay planes.
That's right, I forgot you upgraded the SW rasterizers to handle just
about any visual up to a certain depth.
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the driver is based upon.
Are there any Kyro developers listening on this list?
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of
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the open end by being to pushy.
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I don't know it everyone saw this on the XFree86 devel list, but it
might be a useful tool.
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?
There are only a couple
of small glitches to fix before I commit.
This looks great Keith.
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Keith Whitwell wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
Keith Whitwell wrote:
Michael wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 12:14:45AM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote:
I have a .XF86config-radeon that sets ModulesPath to that directory, and
maybe
I need to set an env var or two... I guess
Keith Whitwell wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
Keith Whitwell wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
Keith Whitwell wrote:
Michael wrote:
On Tue, May 21, 2002 at 12:14:45AM +0100, Keith Whitwell wrote:
I have a .XF86config-radeon that sets ModulesPath to that directory
be excluded when we
support page flipping?
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it, and running again didn't reproduce it. Maybe I should try a few
more times. If the server is confused about which is back and which is
front, I should be able to reproduce at least 50% of the time :-)
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Keith Whitwell wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
Keith Whitwell wrote:
- Separate out the 'flip' and 'swap' functions
to separate ioctls. (D'oh)
I'm glad you added the new IOCTL for backwards compatability with older
kernels. I haven't tested with older kernels
Mike,
Can you test whether this patch fixes your problems w/V3 in high res
modes?
If this fixes it, then I like it better than the previous one you
sent--as it addresses the root of the problem.
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, drawables and full screen functionality...
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more limited over the last few months. Perhaps you can give us some
detail of how you would propose improving our site.
Regards,
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Infrastructure Status.
Perhaps others have additional projects they would like to add to this
list. They can mail that information to me and I'll maintain a master
list we can display in this section.
Regards,
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Oops. Here's the attachment.
Jens Owen wrote:
Frank,
It would be a good thing if we can clarify what outstanding work can
still be done on the DRI infrastructure itself. I've reorganized and
added to our project status page (and attached to this e-mail). I
kept the call for help
then we can be
confident we have a great template interface, and you can focus more of
your efforts on keeping up to date with general DRM functionality and
less on each device specific implementation.
Regards,
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this functionality to the kernel
group.
Regards,
Jens
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José Fonseca wrote:
Jens,
On 2002.05.13 14:58 Jens Owen wrote:
Jose,
I recommend a full two way merge (DRI-kernel and kernel-DRI). The
kernel-DRI changes can be submitted directly to our repository for
testing. The DRI-kernel changes require a patch be submitted to the
kernel
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I would be nice to know what is the current state of affairs?
I'll be happy to review the nitty gritty details...I'll post this to the
dri-devel list.
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Brian Paul wrote:
Michael wrote:
On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 12:53:15AM -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
Is there any compelling reason to report single buffer visuals?
Dunno, you tell me ;o)
Here's how I noticed, some of the Mesa demos use single buffer (or
either as an option
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utilizes GART
functionality to allow non-contiguous memory to be utilized. Your
driver may be the first to need true PCI support, and *possibly* the
last to need it unless other legacy chipsets of the same era are
supported.
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tester. If Alan accepts your patch, it's more likely that Linus will too. If he
doesn't like your patch, you will probably get an email saying so. Expect it to
be terse.
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I haven't personally submitted an update for the drm drivers to Linus
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source repository, so you can search those archives for more detail, if
you need it.
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timing related, and you can't reliably reproduce the problem
with a debugable binary, or with gdb. Then try attaching gdb to the
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/DRM architecture doesn't meet the needs of the
Solaris user and developer community, I am willing to work on broadening
our infrastructure to address those needs.
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Philip Brown wrote:
On Mon, Apr 15, 2002 at 09:19:35PM -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
However, I have to point out--that whomever is doing
the work get's their way; and since I don't have the bandwidth to
support the solaris DRM drivers--that's all I'm going to say, except:
If the current
José Fonseca wrote:
On 2002.04.12 01:37 Jens Owen wrote:
Jose,
Thanks for doing this. I forgot to mention a couple of items on
monday. Here's some updates.
...
Jens,
I've finished converting the text into SGML and I'll include it in the
Devel-FAQ shortly, together
days.
If it doesn't work, I'm not sure if it's worth the effort of fixing. It
should probably be removed.
If nobody can give a good reason for keeping it in, I'll remove the
compiled-in driver option from libGL.
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Mike A. Harris wrote:
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002, K. Petersen wrote:
Date: Sat, 13 Apr 2002 16:16:19 -0700 (PDT)
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K. Petersen wrote:
On Fri, 12 Apr 2002, Jens Owen wrote:
K. Petersen wrote:
I am building this myself. Unfortunately, I didn't recieve the attatched
host.def file. If you could send it again, I'd be more than happy to
rebuild with it, if it will help in diagnosing this.
My
startx, then attaching to the running X server.
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/*
* Set this for each DRI branch. It will be appended to the XFree86 version
* information.
*/
#define
Jens Owen wrote:
[Note: This e-mail get's into some additional design discussions, so I'm
adding anybody who has responded to the DRM discussion to the CC list,
to circumvent the sourceforge e-mail log jam.]
Alan Hourihane wrote:
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:46:59 -0700, Jens Owen wrote
on this list?
Yes, I have been having intermittent problems.
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They have a special version of the Radeon DRM as do we. We haven't, yet
pushed the TCL functionality to the main branch of the DRI.
Regards,
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Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 07:43, Jens Owen wrote:
Has anybody tried using the latest DRI trunk code with older versions of
libGL.so since the Mesa 4.0.2 merge? Michael D. reported the drmcommand
branch and the trunk were now incompatible. I know the drmcommand
Martin Spott wrote:
On Mon, Apr 08, 2002 at 03:01:29PM -0600, Jens Owen wrote:
[...] You can get this latest package from the usual place, it's called
radeon-20020408-i386-Linux.tar.gz
[...]
[drm] Initialized radeon 1.3.0 20020408 on minor 0
Everything works as desired - thanks
with?
On Mon, 2002-04-08 at 23:43, Jens Owen wrote:
Has anybody tried using the latest DRI trunk code with older versions of
libGL.so since the Mesa 4.0.2 merge? Michael D. reported the drmcommand
branch and the trunk were now incompatible. I know the drmcommand
drivers work with older
of the drmcommand changes:
cvs -z3 update -A -D 3/28/2002 08:00:00 GMT
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Just FYI. In the last week or so, something has caused gears to
slowdown on my box by about 15%. Perhaps this was expected.
Regards,
Jens
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Jens Owen wrote:
Michel Dänzer wrote:
On Tue, 2002-04-09 at 07:43, Jens Owen wrote:
Has anybody tried using the latest DRI trunk code with older versions of
libGL.so since the Mesa 4.0.2 merge? Michael D. reported the drmcommand
branch and the trunk were now incompatible. I know
versioning and header names are done. I'm freezing now and will start
the merge process.
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versioning and header names are done. I'm freezing now and will start
the merge process.
Merge to trunk done. drmcommand-0-0-1-branch is now dead.
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José Fonseca wrote:
On 2002.04.09 23:02 Jens Owen wrote:
Jens Owen wrote:
versioning and header names are done. I'm freezing now and will start
the merge process.
Merge to trunk done. drmcommand-0-0-1-branch is now dead.
What are the effects of this on the package
on this list
that leads to this assumption (or I didn't understand it ),
You're the first to report this. If you're willing, I'd like to track
down what's going on.
Regards,
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