Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-23 Thread Doug Ferrell
- Original Message - From: David Holman aikidav...@yahoo.com A repeater should be able to handle both signals and not blink. My personal opinion, analog should be mothballed and something digital (maybe not DStar) should replace it. We should be putting up repeaters that can do

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-22 Thread David Holman
it.  It works great (according to them) and it didn't cost $10,000.  73 David, AC7DS From: J. Moen j...@jwmoen.com To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 7:47:15 AM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?   I

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-22 Thread John Hays
I don't know about the Allentown group, but here is my setup: http://k7ve.org/blog/2010/06/converting-the-kenwood-tkr-820-to-use-with-d-star/ Full repeater hooked to Hotspot for now, will go G2 as soon a G4ULF software is out. On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:50 PM, David Holman wrote: Jim,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-22 Thread John Hays
There's a project and discusion gorup to do just this http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pcrepeatercontroller/ -- I see no reason to put both analog and digital on the same frequency, they can't talk to each other and without fairly sophisticated users using transmit lockout, CTCSS on analog,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Nate Duehr
On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Nate Duehr wrote: All it takes to grow D-STAR (or any other new mode in any particular area) is time and money... D-STAR has flourished in some areas due to massive influxes of taxpayer dollars in the form of government grants... some local, some Federal. in

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread J. Moen
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Nate Duehr wrote: All it takes to grow D-STAR (or any other new mode in any particular area) is time and money... D-STAR has

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Donald James
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 4:38 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:02 AM, Nate Duehr wrote: All it takes to grow D-STAR (or any other new mode in any

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread The Latino Ham _Not Spam
...@earthlink.net To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 12:17:33 PM Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? I’d love to hear and learn more about getting governments grant(s) for D-Star. What can you (anyone) who knows about this share

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread J. Moen
To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? I'd love to hear and learn more about getting governments grant(s) for D-Star. What can you (anyone) who knows about this share

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Donald James
@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? Donald (no call given) wrote: I'd love to hear and learn more about getting governments grant(s) for D-Star. I've heard a lot about how the coordinated approach being done in Georgia. See the article

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Tony Langdon
At 07:18 AM 7/13/2010, you wrote: My two Cents on the D-star Drama. The problem here is not the technology itself. The problem with Dstar is that radios are so expensive. On one hand you have ham clubs that can dishout the money to That's a matter of opinion. I considered the D-STAR radios

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread J. Moen
@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:18 PM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? My two Cents on the D-star Drama. The problem here is not the technology itself. The problem with Dstar is that radios are so expensive. On one hand you have ham clubs

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread John Hays
On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:18 PM, The Latino Ham _Not Spam wrote: My two Cents on the D-star Drama. The problem here is not the technology itself. The problem with Dstar is that radios are so expensive. The radios aren't expensive, hams are cheap :) --- if you compare an IC2AT (really

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Donald James
My two Cents on the D-star Drama. The problem here is not the technology itself. The problem with Dstar is that radios are so expensive. The radios aren't expensive, hams are cheap :) AMEN to that! --- if you compare an IC2AT (really good single frequency, synthesized, DTMF but

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-12 Thread Dave Hubbell
I guess I look at the problem this way. If all you want to do is talk don't buy a DSTAR radio. It is much cheaper to buy an FM radio and talk to the guys. If you want to use packet you have to buy a TNC which is about 200 bucks. Any respectable dualband radio will cost 350 and add the TNC and

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Dave Tipton, W5DMT
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of davidscott_345 Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 12:24 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? I have listened to a couple of conversations on analog 2 meter repeaters

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Steve Homer
Hi David, The same was said about Echolink. People seem to not like the unknown there was a time Echolink was the same. Just ride the wave for a while until people learn or are educated to the benefits of Dstar - You will find most who oppose it have never tried it! Steve EI2GYB On

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Aaron Siller N5AMS
-Original Message- From: Steve Homer ei2...@eircom.net Sender: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 18:49:56 To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? Hi David

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread KD8OK
I'm not sure where the comments are coming from in Columbus. I have been involved in repeaters in Columbus for a number of years as well as a trustee of 2 of them. As for 5.49/442.800, I know that some of the users bought Dstar radios and are now active there. I hope that things will

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread J. Moen
: Sunday, July 11, 2010 10:24 AM Subject: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? I have listened to a couple of conversations on analog 2 meter repeaters here in Columbus, Ohio. The gist of the conversations seem to be we don't want d-star because they will lose

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread George Foy
@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? Columbus is an odd place anyway. I lived there for a few years during college. I suspect that it's like anything else. The mantra is We fear change. D*Star is not overly popular here in Denton, TX either

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:59 AM 7/12/2010, you wrote: Personally I think on the hand of VOIP and Dstar I think the add more capabilities to ham radio do I think analog will be replaced by digital no now it might take away some of the experimental band set by arrl which is where it should be at this early stage

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:36 AM 7/12/2010, you wrote: Bottom line -- in this area at least, coordinations will not be pulled from existing analog repeaters any time soon, no matter how little utilized they are. It's just the nature of the Bylaws of the frequency coordination organization about who gets to vote,

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread Michael Lodico
Hi Jim, Although frequency co-ordination is a necessary evil too much power absolutely corrupts as in the case of repeater co-ordination groups. If there is a large enough group of people that want to put up D-Star repeaters and you can prove that a frequency pair has not been used for over

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area?

2010-07-11 Thread J. Moen
:29 PM Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Are you exprerencing anti d-star in your area? Hi Jim, Although frequency co-ordination is a necessary evil too much power absolutely corrupts as in the case of repeater co-ordination groups. If there is a large enough group of people that want