Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-15 Thread Chris Fowler
On Sat, 2010-04-10 at 01:12 -0600, Nate Duehr wrote: Note how they added MORE features to the latest rig that didn't play nicely with D-PLUS. Are they stupid? #1. They currently have a monopoly and know we'll buy even if D-Plus become incompatible in some way. #2. They believe their solution

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-15 Thread John D. Hays
Chris Fowler wrote: We have US based D-Star reps. Talk to them and ask if ICOM Japan is stupid. Last year, I was in a meeting with the head of Icom's D-STAR development from Japan. I tried to explain to him how DD could be more effectively marketed in the US (a lower cost unit with an

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-10 Thread Nate Duehr
On 4/9/2010 8:48 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: Nate, Please get your fact straights before spreading FUD. FUD means Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt, none of which I am spreading. D-PLUS was created before the DVDongle. D-PLUS is NOT REQUIRED for a D-STAR repeater, or one that is connected to the

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-10 Thread Gary Lindtner
Nate WY0X wrote: Guess what... None of the public safety folks in the big cities care, or even know, what D-STAR is... Oh, that's that Ham Radio thing if you're lucky. I hung out at the largest Fire/Medical dispatch center in the Denver Metro area last night. No one there had even heard of

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-10 Thread Woodrick, Ed
From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 3:13 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing On 4/9/2010 8:48 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: Nate, Please get

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Woodrick, Ed
...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Nate Duehr Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 3:59 PM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing Over here, D-PLUS is virtually a requirement so a private company can sell and offer DV-Dongle... gateway operators

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread john_ke5c
D-PLUS was created before the DVDongle. D-PLUS is NOT REQUIRED for a D-STAR repeater, or one that is connected to the Trust Server. Chronologically dplus appeared before the dongle, but conceptually? The dongle market certainly appears to drive dplus development since. Again, DPLUS IS NOT

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Adrian
I can with good conscious, state that without DPLUS, DSTAR would probably have died. Or at least be at significantly lower levels of penetration than today. A LOT of people enjoy listening to REF001C and the nets. A lot of grant money has been spent with the capability to link repeaters

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Woodrick, Ed
: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing I can with good conscious, state that without DPLUS, DSTAR would probably have died. Or at least be at significantly lower levels of penetration than today. A LOT of people enjoy listening to REF001C and the nets. A lot of grant money has been

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-09 Thread Tony Langdon
I don't think so, I fully agree with Ed, I have seen many userĀ“s drop off dstar, due to callsign routing technique not satisfying their desire to listen in on a qso first before joining in. Good point. Hams love listening. It's part and parcel of the hobby, whether people like it or not.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Nate Duehr
On Apr 7, 2010, at 5:54 PM, ki4umx wrote: Hi Nick, I see several have answered the technical side of your question, so I'll limit myself to why I WOULD NOT use source routing except in emergencies. With source routing, you have no idea what is going on at the target repeater, and you

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:59 AM 4/9/2010, you wrote: This is more a sign of really poor integration of the regular features vs. the add-on features, than anything. If the two were aware of each other in any way, a message could be sent back to the user who is barging in saying the remote system is linked

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread interpretercat
Hello all!!! Okay, so I got some great info. To follow up, when I am using our local repeater, in the middle of a QSO, the repeater will vacillate between linkking and unlinking. I'm not controlling anything. It really gets my hackles up when it knocks me out of my QSO and my transmissions is

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread John D. Hays
interpreter...@gmail.com wrote: If they made the registration process uncomplicated by just typing in your name, call sign and password, instead of registering with a club, and putting in the necessary sp aces, asterisks and #'s, everything would be much simpler and less confusion for un

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-08 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 03:59 PM 4/8/2010, Nate Duehr wrote: ... All the current Icom rigs reset the four callsign fields anytime you tune to a new memory channel. A small correction - they don't reset the MY CALL field - that one stays put until you change it. ...Callsign routing obviously is a fully-workable

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread Nicholas
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr n...@... wrote: On 4/7/2010 4:40 PM, Nicholas wrote: I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is the difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing (UR: /KJ4OXTC)? This is something I have yet to

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread Nicholas
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon vk3...@... wrote: At 08:40 AM 4/8/2010, you wrote: I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is the difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing (UR: /KJ4OXTC)? This is something I have yet to figure

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Linking vs. Source Routing

2010-04-07 Thread ki4umx
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Nicholas ngra...@... wrote: I may be asking a question that has already been answered. What is the difference between Linking (UR: KJ4MMCCL) and Source Routing (UR: /KJ4OXTC)? This is something I have yet to figure out. Thank you and 73s, Nick