[DX-CHAT] Gitmo

2006-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi folks,
Previously I said I would update the list when I learned something about Gitmo operations. The "official" word, as has been mentioned by other list members, is that Gitmo is not listed in appendix 1 of part 97 as an area regulated by the FCC. The US Navy is the regulatory authority, and as such is the only entity to define what is "proper" operation from Gitmo.
73, Duane, WV2B"Nothinggreatiseverachievedwithoutenthusiasm."-RalphWaldoEmerson.


[DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Bill



What are your thoughts of you 
working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been told that you can have 
someone come to your house and work you while you are on a DXPedition using your 
call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can get DXCC and never work a 
station yourself? Let someone else use your station and call and do it for 
you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in order?

How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de 
W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this is legal. 


See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on 
the ARRL web site.

Bill W4WX



  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:23 
PM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] Gitmo
  
  Hi folks,
  Previously I said I would update the list when I learned something about 
  Gitmo operations. The "official" word, as has been mentioned by other list 
  members, is that Gitmo is not listed in appendix 1 of part 97 as an area 
  regulated by the FCC. The US Navy is the regulatory authority, and as such is 
  the only entity to define what is "proper" operation from Gitmo.
  73, Duane, 
  WV2B"Nothinggreatiseverachievedwithoutenthusiasm."-RalphWaldoEmerson.


Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Bill



Here is a answer I sent to someone 
that email me:



  - Original Message
  Why... I think it is very 
  wrong. It is true you can get on the Honor Roll and never work a station 
  yourself. Do you think this is right? However, it is legal. The 
  only thing you need to do is designate a control operator to operate your 
  station and it is legal. This has to be documented. The control 
  operator is limited to his/her privileges.
  
  It is okay for the FCC rules, but 
  the DXCC rules should be changed. The DXCC awards is a personal thing... 
  
  
  The DXCC awards states: 
  This certifies that Bill Gallier, W4WX has had two 
  way communicationsetc... It don't say This certifies anyone 
  from this location has workedetc
  
  Bill - 
  
  From: 
  Bill 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:37 
PM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on 
  DXPeditions
  
  What are your thoughts of you 
  working yourself on DXPeditions. I have been told that you can have 
  someone come to your house and work you while you are on a DXPedition using 
  your call and you will get DXCC credit. Wow, you can get DXCC and never 
  work a station yourself? Let someone else use your station and call and 
  do it for you! Would a "DXCC for Hire Person" be in 
  order?
  
  How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de 
  W4WX 59 over. According to the rules this is legal. 
  
  
  See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on 
  the ARRL web site.
  
  Bill W4WX
  
  
  



[DX-CHAT] SW B'cast on 17m

2006-04-03 Thread Peter W2IRT

Hi all,

I was at a friend's QTH in Toronto (Canada) over the weekend and we 
were hearing what seemed to be a Chinese-language broadcast around 
2300 local time on Sunday night on 18.161. With QSB, it was between 
S5 and S9 to a low-hung inverted vee. A friend in NYC also heard the 
b'cast, so it wasn't a local, I don't suspect.


Any ideas?



- Peter

W2IRT

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[DX-CHAT] control ops

2006-04-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From "FCC Rulebook"

Every control operator is bound by the frequency privileges of his or her license, regardless of what class license is held by the station owner.
So, if the visiting ham has a lower license, the owners call can be used, but the visitor still cannot go beyong the privileges of his own license.
A visitor can use their own call at another station, but cannot go beyond their own privileges.
If you visit a station of a lower class licensee, and use the station call, you must sign station call/ your call if you go beyond the station owners privileges. 
A lower class operator could operate as a third party with higher class privileges if the owner is at the control point.
But, I guess the question is: Do you want to work DXCC as a station, or as an operator. I think most would feel it is the accomplishment of the individual, like you could go to someones station and work a DXpedition you couldn't work from home, and no one would argue that you didn't make a contact for DXCC. But, a station could also work DXCC. For example a DXpedition with multi-ops, or a contest station with multi-ops. I guess its up to the individual what he wants to do.
73, Duane, WV2B
"Nothinggreatiseverachievedwithoutenthusiasm."-RalphWaldoEmerson.


Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Steve-KF2TI
On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up 
some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from 
anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and 
another computer

So, I set this up and what??

the Tango Italy station go ahead

Thank you  This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve  over

Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59.  BTW how do i sound over

Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over

Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct

up to you

73 have i hope i have a good operation

Rgr that I am sure I will


On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
From:   Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

 Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the actual 
 operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's the DX 
 operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to determine 
 the specifics on this.
 
 I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole in 
 DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you working 
 your own equipment and somebody else.
 
 There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states 
 that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O
 
 It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even 
 though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two.
 
 All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching old 
 age. :-[
 
 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS
 
 At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote:
 What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions.  I have been 
 told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you are 
 on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit.  Wow, you can 
 get DXCC and never work a station yourself?  Let someone else use your 
 station and call and do it for you! Would a DXCC for Hire Person be in 
 order?
  
 How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over.  According to the rules this 
 is legal. 
  
 See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site.
  
 Bill W4WX
 
 -- 
 73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Don Greenbaum
and if you bust the call, who's to blame?

73
Don
N1DG

At 09:59 PM 4/3/2006, Steve-KF2TI wrote:
On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up 
some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from 
anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and 
another computer

So, I set this up and what??

the Tango Italy station go ahead

Thank you  This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve  over

Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59.  BTW how do i sound over

Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over

Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct

up to you

73 have i hope i have a good operation

Rgr that I am sure I will


On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
From:   Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

 Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the actual 
 operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's the DX 
 operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to 
 determine the specifics on this.
 
 I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole 
 in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you 
 working your own equipment and somebody else.
 
 There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states 
 that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O
 
 It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even 
 though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two.
 
 All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching old 
 age. :-[
 
 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS
 
 At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote:
 What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions.  I have been 
 told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while you 
 are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit.  Wow, you 
 can get DXCC and never work a station yourself?  Let someone else use your 
 station and call and do it for you! Would a DXCC for Hire Person be in 
 order?
  
 How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over.  According to the rules this 
 is legal. 
  
 See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site.
  
 Bill W4WX
 
 -- 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Fred Stevens K2FRD
I had several remotely-operated internet-controlled PSK contacts while in 
Labrador two summers ago. One contact in particular was in Germany using his 
Austrian callsign, but actually making contact with me through a transceiver in 
Boston using a W1 prefix before his own callsign (W1/OE8xxx). While we had 
several pleasant QSOs, if he had QSLed me for VO2 for his OE QTH, I would not 
have been able to justify sending him a Zone Two card.

The below reminds me of a guy serving as his own lawyer. He put himself on the 
stand, then for each question he would ask of himself, he went down to the 
floor to ask the question, then return to the stand to answer his own question. 
It got ridiculous when he asked himself to repeat the question.

QSL direct, save yourself a little postage $, a lot of waiting time via the 
Buro, and send yourself as many green stamps as you have in your wallet. :-D

73 de Fred K2FRD

At 1:59 + 04/04/2006, Steve-KF2TI wrote:
On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up
some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from
anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and
another computer

So, I set this up and what??

the Tango Italy station go ahead

Thank you  This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve  over

Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59.  BTW how do i sound over

Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over

Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct

up to you

73 have i hope i have a good operation

Rgr that I am sure I will

-- 
73 de Fred Stevens K2FRD, VO2FS
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[DX-CHAT] Working yourself

2006-04-03 Thread W. David Paperman
It appears that the only non controversial answer is offered by the IOTA 
program:


If you operate from there you get the country credit.

Makes sense to me! Sort of takes the flames away g.

Dave, W5WP

Asbestos suit on.
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Re: [DX-CHAT] T91AD

2006-04-03 Thread Boris Knezovic T93Y

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Anyone have any info on T91AD,  worked on 30 mtrs evening of 4/3, not in QRZ.
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There are no T91 callsigns with two letter suffix in Bosnia and 
Herzegovina. It is either one letter suffix for A class operator or 
three letter suffix for club station.


None of the active callsigns comes even close to this AD suffix and I do 
not have idea what is the real callsign of the station you have worked.


73's Boris T93Y
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RE: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Um, yes, but I do believe that under current DXCC rules, if you are in one
entity and you operate a remote or auxilliary station that's in another, the
contacts you make are not valid for DXCC purposes.

73

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf
Of Steve-KF2TI
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:00 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions


On a different slant, I read, recently, in QST that you can set up
some software that will allow remote operation of your own radio from
anywhere in the workd, provided you have access to the internet and
another computer

So, I set this up and what??

the Tango Italy station go ahead

Thank you  This is KF2TI u r 59, name is Steve  over

Tnx Steve this is kp2/kf2ti, I am also 59.  BTW how do i sound over

Kp2/kf2ti, this is kf2ti I sound great over

Rgr me, do i qsl buro or direct

up to you

73 have i hope i have a good operation

Rgr that I am sure I will


On 3 Apr 2006 at 18:13, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 3 Apr 2006 18:13:12 -0700
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
From:   Fred Stevens K2FRD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

 Seems to me if one isn't home to serve as control operator, then the
actual operator would be obligated to use his/her own callsign even if it's
the DX operator's gear. I haven't bothered going into the Part 97 Rules to
determine the specifics on this.

 I might also have an ethical problem with this, even if this is a loophole
in DXCC rules, since it's not really working yourself; rather, it's you
working your own equipment and somebody else.

 There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence states
that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same time. =-O

 It took me several years to make contact with CQ Zone Two from home even
though I have run mini-DXpeditions to VO2 land in Zone Two.

 All this said, I *DO* talk to myself a lot these days in my encroaching
old age. :-[

 73 de Fred K2FRD, VO2FS

 At 20:37 -0400 03/04/2006, Bill wrote:
 What are your thoughts of you working yourself on DXPeditions.  I have
been told that you can have someone come to your house and work you while
you are on a DXPedition using your call and you will get DXCC credit.  Wow,
you can get DXCC and never work a station yourself?  Let someone else use
your station and call and do it for you! Would a DXCC for Hire Person be
in order?
 
 How does this sound? HH4/W4WX de W4WX 59 over.  According to the rules
this is legal.
 
 See rule #10 of the DXCC rules on the ARRL web site.
 
 Bill W4WX

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RE: [DX-CHAT] SW B'cast on 17m

2006-04-03 Thread Charles Harpole
LIstening to all ham bands from HS, one can hear almost more illegal and 
quasi-legal transmissions than ham signals.  Except for contest days, the 
average is fewer ham signals.


Use it or lose it.

73

Charles HarpoleHS0ZCW
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Working yourself on DXPeditions

2006-04-03 Thread Zack Widup
On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Fred Stevens K2FRD wrote:

 
 There's also the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle which, in essence 
 states that one object (or person) cannot be in two places at the same 
 time. =-O
 

That is, unless he's in a chronosynclastic infundibulum.

Then again, we have How Can You Be In Two Places At Once When You're 
Not Anywhere At All.

(Hey, didn't I just say that on the cq-contest reflector?  I hope I'm not 
sinking into an chronosynclastic infundi...)

73, Zack W9SZ

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