[DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Charles Harpole
 
To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a 
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths 
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed 
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.
Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.
 
And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,Charles [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Dave G4GED
HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

 Original Message - 
  From: Charles Harpole 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a 
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths 
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed 
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.
  Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.
   
  And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

  Charles Harpole
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RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
Oh, please.

Sorry Charles, but I disagree.  This is political correctness run amuck.

I am not a Christian, but I do not take offense when someone wishes me
Merry Christmas or equivalent at this time of year, as I understand the
sentiment behind the comment.

Too many are quick to take offense, high offense at that, at perceived
slights that are nothing of the kind.

Keep this up, and you'll end up like the some PR types in the City of
Pittsburgh, which tried to retitle this time of year Sparkle Season a few
years  back.  And ended up insulting everybody in the process, even the
atheists.

We should not need a lawyer to advise us on how to risk avoiding offending
someone in even the slightest way, when our intention is to wish someone the
best of times at this time of year.

73

  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Harpole
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:20 PM
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness
but the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint
in a small way an otherwise happy season.
  Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.

  And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

  Charles Harpole
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Peter Dougherty

At 05:19 PM 12/14/2007, Charles Harpole wrote:

To Western hams, mostly


K4VUD ... sounds like a Western callsign to me. Your new QTH must be 
wonderful and I'm glad you enjoy being there, and thus I expect by 
now you have submitted your American license for cancellation, 
returned your US passport to the Department of State and formally 
renounced your US citizenship?




Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT 




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[DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread ragnar otterstad
 I am not a Christian, but I do not take offense when
someone wishes me Merry Christmas or equivalent at
this time of year, as I understand the sentiment
behind the comment.


I belong to that club too. It is obviously well meant,

MX

73  Rag  LA5HE


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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Peter Dougherty

AND HAPPY NEW YEAR FOR 2008!

God bless us. Everyone. Oh, wait a minute I might offend the athiests 
or agnostics--Even though I AM one, I'll say it anyway because it's 
that time of the year and it makes people happy.


Charles (and other PC-types), maybe, instead, it would be best for 
each of us to wish our fellow hams -- and or fellow man for that 
matter -- something blessed and peaceful that we feel deep in our own 
hearts. If the ham on the other end of the circuit feels animosity 
towards me for being wished Merry (or Happy) Christmas on a day we 
hold near and dear, that doesn't say much for him, IMHO, and if 
that's the case, do I really want him in my log?


Wish me a Merry Christmas, happy Chanukah, joyous Kwanzaa or bid me a 
merry winter solstice...I'll not take offence at any, nor will I 
think less of you for doing so.


And while I'm at it and on the subject of the 4th of July, God Bless 
America and keep her men and women in combat safe.




At 05:50 PM 12/14/2007, you wrote:

HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

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From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Charles Harpole
To: mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.orgdx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season
To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to 
offer a seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the 
Christian faiths (instead of Merry Christmas for 
example).  Receivers of the mis-directed merry christmases--most 
will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but the implied 
arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.

Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.

And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,
Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT  

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RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)

At 05:07 PM 12/14/2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:

Sorry Charles, but I disagree.  This is political correctness run amuck.


AMEN Ron. I's so sick of politically correct that I want to puke.

73,
Mike, W5UC

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Fw: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Dave G4GED
And with that very offensive response, shared - I rest my case!

- Original Message - 
From: Charles Harpole 
To: Dave G4GED 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:11 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


Hey, thanks for showing that a Brit, too, can have arrogance and cultural 
insensitivity ...  73

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season
  Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:50:02 +


  HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
  AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

   Original Message - 
From: Charles Harpole 
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a 
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths 
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed 
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.
Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.
 
And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread harris_ruben


And while I'm at it and on the subject of the 4th of July, God Bless 
America and keep her men and women in combat safe.




AND, while we're at it, that includes the wishes of us anti-war 
liberals, who also have the same feelings towards our country and our 
troops.


Let this be the end of political discussion HERE.

N2ERN


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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread RUSSELL KELLAM JR
And to you also Dave from one of the colonies Russ W4UBC
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave G4GED 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
  AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

   Original Message - 
From: Charles Harpole 
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a 
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths 
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed 
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.
Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.
 
And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Bill Hawkins


Charles, please do not try to impose your silly sense of being offended on 
me.
People  in this country are tired of bowing and scraping to everyone who is 
offended at every stupid little thing.
If  you are offended by someone saying Merry Christmas, move to someplace 
it isn't said.
If you have already done that, be happy and keep your offended nose out of 
my business.

Bill W5EC



At 05:19 PM 12/14/2007, Charles Harpole wrote:

To Western hams, mostly




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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread john

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL!



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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread john


Well, it's handy to have that K4 call, so as to be able to work on DXCC 
totals from two locations simultaneously!


John K5MO



At 06:19 PM 12/14/2007, Peter Dougherty wrote:

At 05:19 PM 12/14/2007, Charles Harpole wrote:

To Western hams, mostly


K4VUD ... sounds like a Western callsign to me. Your new QTH must be 
wonderful and I'm glad you enjoy being there, and thus I expect by now you 
have submitted your American license for cancellation, returned your US 
passport to the Department of State and formally renounced your US citizenship?




Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT


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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Goran Arezina
Hello Ron,

If you get any greetings from the countries where there are NO American 
soldiers, I shall buy some gift!

Regards,
GORAN
  - Original Message - 
  From: Ron Notarius W3WN 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:07 AM
  Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  Oh, please.

  Sorry Charles, but I disagree.  This is political correctness run amuck.

  I am not a Christian, but I do not take offense when someone wishes me Merry 
Christmas or equivalent at this time of year, as I understand the sentiment 
behind the comment.

  Too many are quick to take offense, high offense at that, at perceived 
slights that are nothing of the kind.

  Keep this up, and you'll end up like the some PR types in the City of 
Pittsburgh, which tried to retitle this time of year Sparkle Season a few 
years  back.  And ended up insulting everybody in the process, even the 
atheists.

  We should not need a lawyer to advise us on how to risk avoiding offending 
someone in even the slightest way, when our intention is to wish someone the 
best of times at this time of year.

  73

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Charles Harpole
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:20 PM
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a 
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths 
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed 
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.
Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.
 
And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

Charles Harpole
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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[DX-CHAT] GWB

2007-12-14 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)
If I were GWB or any other president with just over a year left,  I 
would say pretty much what I jolly well please, and not sweat the 
small stuff, especially the  small PC stuff. (all PC stuff is very small)


73,
Mike, W5UC

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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Stuart Santelmann KC1F
Dad   Charles made us fight again like he does every year at this time  
 He'll get coal in his stocking !!

Just to make this DX related, when are the E4s due on ?

StuKC1F
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dave G4GED 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:54 PM
  Subject: Fw: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  And with that very offensive response, shared - I rest my case!

  - Original Message - 
  From: Charles Harpole 
  To: Dave G4GED 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:11 PM
  Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  Hey, thanks for showing that a Brit, too, can have arrogance and cultural 
insensitivity ...  73

  Charles Harpole
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:50:02 +


HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

 Original Message - 
  From: Charles Harpole 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
  Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a 
seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths 
(instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of the mis-directed 
merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a 
small way an otherwise happy season.
  Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.
   
  And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

  Charles Harpole
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 



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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Bob Coomler
And a Happy Boxing Day to you Dave!  If anyone is, or
really wants to be, offended by violent sports, don't
worry, that isn't the reference.

73,
Bob W6RJC


--- Dave G4GED [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
 AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))
 
  Original Message - 
   From: Charles Harpole 
   To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
   Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
   Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season
 
 
   To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is
 most polite to offer a seasons greetings or happy
 holidays to those not of the Christian faiths
 (instead of Merry Christmas for example). 
 Receivers of the mis-directed merry
 christmases--most will forgive the senders'
 misplaced earnestness but the implied arrogance and
 cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a
 small way an otherwise happy season.
   Thanks for your understanding of individual
 differences.

   And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.  
 73,
 
   Charles Harpole
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 


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Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Zack Widup


And Happy Guy Fawkes Day!

73, Zack W9SZ

On Fri, 14 Dec 2007, RUSSELL KELLAM JR wrote:


And to you also Dave from one of the colonies Russ W4UBC
 - Original Message -
 From: Dave G4GED
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org
 Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 5:50 PM
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


 HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
 AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

  Original Message -
   From: Charles Harpole
   To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
   Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
   Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


   To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to offer a seasons greetings or 
happy holidays to those not of the Christian faiths (instead of Merry Christmas for example).  
Receivers of the mis-directed merry christmases--most will forgive the senders' misplaced earnestness but 
the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity still remains to taint in a small way an otherwise happy season.
   Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.

   And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

   Charles Harpole
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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[DX-CHAT] extrapolated meanings

2007-12-14 Thread Charles Harpole
 
I sent a simple message of hope that polite relations would rule ham radio.  I 
can not see the extrapolated meaning that I hate America just because I am not 
like YOU.  When politeness fails us, what comes next?  Charles [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]  Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 18:19:57 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 
dx-chat@njdxa.org From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the 
season  At 05:19 PM 12/14/2007, Charles Harpole wrote: To Western hams, 
mostly  K4VUD ... sounds like a Western callsign to me. Your new QTH must 
be  wonderful and I'm glad you enjoy being there, and thus I expect by  now 
you have submitted your American license for cancellation,  returned your US 
passport to the Department of State and formally  renounced your US 
citizenship?Cheers,  Peter, W2IRT Subscribe/unsubscribe, 
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RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
There were spots for E4/OM2DX on 80 and 40 earlier this evening.  I THOUGHT
I heard them, barely, on 80, but of course, the Russian Frequency Cops --
the ones with the 2 letter call UP -- were jamming the frequency.

We've got a week, hopefully.  Plenty of time.
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stuart
Santelmann KC1F
  Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 7:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org
  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


  Dad   Charles made us fight again like he does every year at this time
  He'll get coal in his stocking !!

  Just to make this DX related, when are the E4s due on ?

  StuKC1F
- Original Message -
From: Dave G4GED
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 6:54 PM
Subject: Fw: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


And with that very offensive response, shared - I rest my case!

- Original Message -
From: Charles Harpole
To: Dave G4GED
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 11:11 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


Hey, thanks for showing that a Brit, too, can have arrogance and
cultural insensitivity ...  73

Charles Harpole
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  Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season
  Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:50:02 +


  HAPPY CHRISTMAS TO ALL !!
  AND HAPPY 4TH JULY AS WELL :-))

   Original Message -
From: Charles Harpole
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 10:19 PM
Subject: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season


To Western hams, mostly  Please remember it is most polite to
offer a seasons greetings or happy holidays to those not of the
Christian faiths (instead of Merry Christmas for example).  Receivers of
the mis-directed merry christmases--most will forgive the senders'
misplaced earnestness but the implied arrogance and cultural insensitivity
still remains to taint in a small way an otherwise happy season.
Thanks for your understanding of individual differences.

And, no happy fourth of July to a Brit, pse.   73,

Charles Harpole
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RE: [DX-CHAT] 'tis the season

2007-12-14 Thread Peter Dougherty

At 12:47 AM 12/15/2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:
There were spots for E4/OM2DX on 80 and 40 earlier this evening.  I 
THOUGHT I heard them, barely, on 80, but of course, the Russian 
Frequency Cops -- the ones with the 2 letter call UP -- were jamming 
the frequency.


We've got a week, hopefully.  Plenty of time.


Got 'em on 80 through some QSB and my usual S9++ electrical QRN. They 
were stronger on 80 than 40 to me, and (of course) working EU 
heavily. Sigh. I lost them on 40 from about 10:30 to 11:30 pm then 
they came back up, albeit with deep fades, but by then, they weren't 
listening for stateside any more and the EU powerhouses took over. 
I'm hoping to nail 'em on 1 or 2 of the higher bands tomorrow before 
the impending Nor'Easter forces me to lower the tower for a couple of 
days (can't beam to them when it's down due to trees). They're saying 
freezing rain and heavy ice accretion possible as well as strong 
gusty frigid winds from the NW for 3 days afterwards. Ought to be 
interesting to say the least! I'm hoping I can at least get the 
tower back up part-way after the worst of the storm is over.


Gotta say, it sure would be funny if I only get them on one band, and 
that band is 80! I think that would be a first for an All-Time New One!




Cheers,

Peter,
W2IRT 

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