Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Michael Pemberton
> > Pascal Bestebroer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) > Software ontwikkelaar > Oberon Informatiesystemen b.v. > http://www.oibv.com > > > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Doug Melvin > > Verzonden: maandag 19

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Pascal Bestebroer
an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > Does no one read my posts. > > You can add code to get this working in NS4. > You can add code to get this working in NS4. > You can add code to get this working in NS4. > You can add code to get

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Richard Bennett
Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 8:48 PM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > Does no one read my posts. > > You can add code to get this working in NS4. > You can add code to get this working in NS4. >

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Does no one read my posts. You can add code to get this working in NS4. You can add code to get this working in NS4. You can add code to get this working in NS4. You can add code to get this working in NS4. You can add code to get this working in NS4. You can add code to get this working in NS4.

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Strolia-Davis Christopher Contr MSG MAM
riginal Message- |From: Michael Pemberton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] |Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 8:22 AM |To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE | | |I'm not sure if you understand the problem here. NS4 will |NEVER give a mouseup |event for a layer othe

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Robert Rainwater
er.. > they just wouldn't see the page transitions. > - Original Message - > From: "Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 6:12 AM > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > > hmm.. I see

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
But we could right 3 lines of code and get this to work the same with NN 4. 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Pascal
http://www.oibv.com > -Oorspronkelijk bericht- > Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Doug Melvin > Verzonden: maandag 19 maart 2001 18:24 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > Either way you can't just d

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Doug Melvin
st not work for them either.. they just wouldn't see the page transitions. - Original Message - From: "Pascal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2001 6:12 AM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > hmm.. I seem to remembe

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Pascal
maart 2001 17:50 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > So, If I decide I'm going to play poker with a one-armed man, > I should cut one of my arms off? > - Original Message - > From: "Michael Pemberton" <[EMAI

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Cameron Hart
rom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Doug Melvin > Sent: 19 March 2001 16:50 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > So, If I decide I'm going to play poker with a one-armed man, > I should cut one

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-19 Thread Doug Melvin
So, If I decide I'm going to play poker with a one-armed man, I should cut one of my arms off? - Original Message - From: "Michael Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Michael Pemberton
m: "Pascal Bestebroer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:19 AM > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > seeing that NS4 is not supporting this, if we simply can't make it work, > we > >

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Doug Melvin
pabilities.. - Original Message - From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2001 6:19 AM Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > seeing that NS4 is not supporting this, if we simply can't make it work

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Michael Pemberton
if you wanted to, you could add a mouse out / over listener that changes the focus pointer to 'none'. then, alter my code to listen for the value of 'none' and terminate the event there. that way it will work in NS4. I would prefer if we got all browsers working in a standard manner and built f

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Again the list software messed it up and I am only seeing your email now. My point is that we can get it to work in NS. No big deal. 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Michael Pemberton
Matthew Alan > > Shirey > > Verzonden: zaterdag 17 maart 2001 19:29 > > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > > > > I really have to agree with 8an here. We should never cripple the set of > > browser to make th

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Pascal Bestebroer
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Namens Matthew Alan > Shirey > Verzonden: zaterdag 17 maart 2001 19:29 > Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Onderwerp: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > > I really have to agree with 8an here. We should never cripple the set of >

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Michael Pemberton
then just place a line of code in the button that null's the focus value. on the other side, look at a scrollbar on any os, it will stop responding to mouse movements no matter where you release the mouse button. Eytan Heidingsfeld wrote: > There was already a mention of such a real world examp

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
There was already a mention of such a real world example. Take a button for instance, the button code should only be executed if the mouse-up was over a button. (Open up any App on any OS and try pressing down on a button moving off it and realeasing). 8an __

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Michael Pemberton
I didn't mean to be so hard but I am just a bit ticked off that my code inclusion was being stoned without any actual example of why it would need to be excuded. This has been happening on this list for a while (I'm talking in general, not just about my code) and it has started to get on my nerve

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
For the first time someone agress with me and you stone him? You evil evil being!! I'm sure he can come up with ideas I'm to busy working right now but since (yes me rambling about this again) this is an API we are supposed to do what is right and not what is more frequently used. 8an _

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-18 Thread Michael Pemberton
what to > use. > > M. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eytan > Heidingsfeld > Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:39 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE > > You gotta

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
Someone agreeing with me? Are you sure you feel ok? ;-) 8an ___ Dynapi-Dev mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/dynapi-dev

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-17 Thread Matthew Alan Shirey
o use. M. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Eytan Heidingsfeld Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 9:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE You gotta be kidding! For this reason, I believe that in the cross br

RE: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-17 Thread Eytan Heidingsfeld
You gotta be kidding! For this reason, I believe that in the cross browser spirit of the API, we should cripple the other browsers to make them perform the same. NS4 is a non compliant old browser we should cripple all the others just for it. I think we should: A. try to add this functionality

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-17 Thread Michael Pemberton
I'm not sure if you understand the problem here. NS4 will NEVER give a mouseup event for a layer other than the mousedown event. It simply does not happen. For this reason, I believe that in the cross browser spirit of the API, we should cripple the other browsers to make them perform the same.

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Doug Melvin
Title: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE Good idea actually, maybe we could hardwire a mouse-event killer on window/document.onblur and mouseout - Original Message - From: Richard Bennett To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:26 PM Subject: Re

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Richard Bennett
Title: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE Yes it could, but then you can only scroll if the mouse stays over the scroll button. On the other hand, I must admit that this problem is already fixed in the current scroll bar, on testing the only remaining problem is if the mouse-up occurs

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread liberte
>From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Mar 16 15:22:08 2001 > >i would prefer the other way, that ns acts as ie does. >there are situations where it makes a difference if the user releases the >mouse over another layers than it was pressed. I think I agree. These situations occur when the mousedown does no

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Michael Buerge
Title: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE couldn't that be solved by catching the onmouseout-event of the scrollbar-knob to disable the drag? Von: "Richard Bennett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Antworten an: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Datum: Fri, 16 Mar 2001 14:50:43 +0100 An: <[EMAIL

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Michael Buerge
i would prefer the other way, that ns acts as ie does. there are situations where it makes a difference if the user releases the mouse over another layers than it was pressed. example: a button that has an some funtionality onmouseup. if the user presses the mouse over the button and releases it,

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Michael Pemberton
oops.  disregard the move to MouseEvent. put this in the original position.  I'll send the patch now. if (is.def) {     if (e.type=='mousedown'  && MouseEvent.focus==null) MouseEvent.focus=src;     else if (e.type=='mouseup' && MouseEvent.focus!=null) {     evt.src=src=MouseEvent.focus;  

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Michael Pemberton
;t get forgotten. Richard. - Original Message - From: Michael Pemberton To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 16, 2001 1:56 PM Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE  I was getting pissed off that IE detected the location of a 'mouseup' event in the current location and NS used the

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Richard Bennett
6 PM Subject: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE I was getting pissed off that IE detected the location of a 'mouseup' event in the current location and NS used the same location where the 'mousedown' event was triggered. Here's some code that stores the mo

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Michael Pemberton
being the NS6 events god that you are, do you have any idea on how I could do the same for NS6. The e.src keeps being reposted as the dyndoc. btw, I've since moved the code into the MouseEvent object to allow for it not being needed for anything else but mouse events. Just move the added if sta

Re: [Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Jordi - IlMaestro - Ministral
If I don't receive a large amount of rocks I'll make it into DynAPI X. Note that I'm no longer developing the old code. To me it is about dead. Michael Pemberton wrote: > I was getting pissed off that IE detected the location of a 'mouseup' > event in the current location and NS used the same

[Dynapi-Dev] Mouse Events in IE

2001-03-16 Thread Michael Pemberton
I was getting pissed off that IE detected the location of a 'mouseup' event in the current location and NS used the same location where the 'mousedown' event was triggered. Here's some code that stores the mousedown source and redirects the mouseup event so that both browsers now act in the same