Let me start with saying I am pretty sure I did not reply to this conversation
the way I think I am supposed to reply, so forgive me for any resulting mishaps.
I have been reading this topic on the loss of field-based courses with great
interest and have collected some of my thoughts. It is an
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J
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At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past
January, I noted the absence
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At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past
January, I noted the absence of many University graduate students that
once represented
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J
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At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past
January
I have been observing this for some time now. Organisms and their habitats are
being written out of biology, so far as direct experience with them is
concerned. We soon will have no means of knowing what is going on in nature,
as no one will be investigating nature, or even have a clue as to
Thanks for bringing this topic up Dr. Inouye.
You know what they saySpecialists learn more and more about less
and less until someday they will know everything about nothing.
It's even happening at the High School level. I was once given carte
blanche to to re-design an ailing advanced
This is what happens when departments/schools jump on fads and/or new
ideas 100% at the expense of other areas. Today, this is happening
with nanotech and bioinformatics. There is always a new wave of
things to add. The problem is not sacrificing the old in pursuit of
bringing in the new. This
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I have been observing this for some time now. Organisms and their habitats are
being written out of biology, so far as direct experience with them is
concerned. We soon will have
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I have been observing this for some time now. Organisms and their habitats
are being written out of biology, so far as direct experience with them is
concerned. We soon
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Sure, many do. However,
I just interviewed at a land grant last week that had only ichthyology from
what I could see.
I guess they could have been hidden somewhere and I missed them. Its not that
hard to miss! :) M
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[mailto:ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan
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Thanks for bringing this topic up Dr. Inouye.
You know what they saySpecialists
I think these changes are symptomatic of both the rush to perceived new
trends (and hence funding opportunities of course) and an increasing
disinterest in natural history (which has been mentioned on the list numerous
times). It is hard to see how to oppose these trends. I have just been to a
: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses
At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past January, I
noted the absence of many University graduate students that once represented
the cutting edge of natural resource research. The programs that have nearly
all but vanished are from
Those of us in the wildlife field have noticed the same trend for a while. It
has prompted some folks to use the professional society as a vehicle to provide
field-based training opportunities. The Northeast Section of The Wildlife
Society started a 2-week field course for college students,
@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J
Sent: 14 May 2014 12:36
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Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses
At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past
January, I noted the absence of many University graduate students
I'm posting this for a colleague who wanted to remain anonymous but
would be interested in your comments. We've suffered the same loss of
field-based courses at the University of Maryland, but I think for
other reasons.
David Inouye
My ecology/evolution/plant diversity students are always
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