em will not be
> > getting them to occupy such sites, but keeping them from occupying them,
> > given the presence of viable propagules. But it would be the epitome of
> > arrogance to declare that we know enough about ecosystems to prescribe what
> > they should be--or, for that matter, what
behold, there are none as I figured!
>
> - Original Message -----
> From: "David C Duffy"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower
view of invasive species -- feral horses
>
>
> "The Great Plai
figured!
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "David C Duffy"
> To:
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2011 12:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species -- feral
> horses
>
>
> "The Great Plains is good horse ha
rest of the west are not what they were 12,000 years
ago or even 200 years ago.
David Duffy
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Tyson
Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species -- feral
horses
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.U
years ago.
David Duffy
- Original Message -
From: Wayne Tyson
Date: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:45 pm
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species -- feral
horses
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
> All:
>
> Ecologically speaking, horses are a true grass
re a grasslands animal, not a "sagebrush steppe" one).
WT
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From: "Warren W. Aney"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 11:08 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species -- feral
horses
For a good statement and some f
ren and/or others can perhaps fill me in.
Thank you, Warren, for the link/reference.
WT
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From: "Warren W. Aney"
To:
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 11:11 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
Wayne, it would seem to be as sim
U] On Behalf Of Hamazaki, Hamachan (DFG)
Sent: Tuesday, 13 September, 2011 01:12
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
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While we are still on invasive species in the US South Western Regions, what is
everyone's opinion about wild horses
s of modern day conservation. Maybe I was just lucky to read lots
> and lots of Leopold...
>
> eric
>
> Eric North
> All Things Wild Consulting
> P.O. Box 254
> Cable, WI 54821
> 928.607.3098
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:26:54 -0500
>> Subje
While we are still on invasive species in the US South Western Regions, what is
everyone's opinion about wild horses in the US?
They are apparently introduced and became invasive, yet are protected by law.
BLM manages them as invasive species, while there is a law suit in the 9th
circuit court o
From: Wayne Tyson [mailto:landr...@cox.net]
Sent: Monday, 12 September, 2011 19:28
To: Warren W. Aney; ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
Warren and Ecolog:
Well, Warren, I guess I'll have to take your word for it. You
; WT
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Warren W. Aney"
>
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:08 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
>
>
> I was speaking from a contemporary perspective, Manuel. From a
ffect, etc?
Now I guess we have to add "intrusive" to our list of terms? But really,
Warren--crying cowboys? Is that fair?
WT
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From: "Warren W. Aney"
To: "'Wayne Tyson'" ;
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: RE
hings Wild Consulting
P.O. Box 254
Cable, WI 54821
928.607.3098
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 10:26:54 -0500
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
> From: malcolm.mccal...@herpconbio.org
> To: xcs...@hotmail.com
> CC: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
>
&g
o: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
All:
The BLM has a "demonstration" project on Steen's mountain, complete with
plasticized photos and text explaining that fire suppression was the culprit
in the juniper "invasion,"
vy
cheatgrass populations.
- Original Message -
From: Charlie Hohn
To: Wayne Tyson
Cc: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 10:06 AM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
Native invasives are an important thing to acknow
ld be a better descriptor.
Warren W. Aney.
-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Wayne Tyson
Sent: 12 September, 2011 06:41
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of inva
nt: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
I was speaking from a contemporary perspective, Manuel. From a very long
term perspective perhaps we can say that a species that somehow translocated
into another ecosystem may have initially
we write off
> Hawaii and whats left of its endemic species? All this talk of "letting
> nature take its course" smacks too much of the "god will provide" idea in
> the Bible.
> >
> > Please correct me on or off list.
> >
> > Best-
> >
whats left of its endemic species? All this talk of "letting nature take
> its course" smacks too much of the "god will provide" idea in the Bible.
>
> Please correct me on or off list.
>
> Best-
> Eric
>
>
>
> Eric North
> All Things Wild Consu
ot;god will provide" idea in the Bible.
Please correct me on or off list.
Best-
Eric
Eric North
All Things Wild Consulting
P.O. Box 254
Cable, WI 54821
928.607.3098
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 17:03:51 -0700
> From: landr...@cox.net
> Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory
listic?
Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, OR
-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Manuel Spínola
Sent: Saturday, 10 September, 2011 12:22
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLO
fy damaged sites to
enable adapted (preferably indigenous) organisms to (re)colonize either by
introducing their propagules or by watching the inevitable invasion.
WT
- Original Message -
From: "Mitch Cruzan"
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 11:09 AM
Subject: Re:
ent upon such
continuing perturbations for their continued existence, especially as
dominant features of the "adopted" ecosystem.
WT
"Correlation is not causation." --Original author obscure
- Original Message -
From: "Mitch Cruzan"
To:
Sent: Sunday,
I'm only asking for a quantifiable description of 'invasive' - we can't
do it based on where organisms originally evolved. Distributions of all
biota has changed dramatically in the last 18,000 years, so drawing
lines based on where species originally came from does not make a whole
lot of sen
On Sep 10, 2011, at 4:31 PM, Jane Shevtsov wrote:
> What fraction of the "weeds" affecting agriculture are native?
Good question. Don't forget the corollary: what fraction of the crops being
affected by "weeds" are non-native?
~
Madhusudan Katti
Associate Pro
the definition of "alien"
> should be contested by all scientists, ecologists, and thinking individuals
> and their organizations worthy of their designations.
>
> WT
>
>
> - Original Message - From: "Warren W. Aney"
>
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, Sep
Warren W. Aney
Senior Wildlife Ecologist
Tigard, OR
-Original Message-
From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Manuel Spínola
Sent: Saturday, 10 September, 2011 12:22
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory
their designations.
WT
- Original Message -
From: "Warren W. Aney"
To:
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
There can be a meaningful ecological difference between an organism that
evolved with an eco
America: grants, jobs, news
[mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Manuel Spínola
Sent: Saturday, 10 September, 2011 12:22
To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] a non Ivory Tower view of invasive species
With all due respect, are not we all invaders at some point in time
What fraction of the "weeds" affecting agriculture are native?
--
-
Jane Shevtsov
Ecology Ph.D. candidate, University of Georgia
co-founder, www.worldbeyondborders.org
"All wars are civil wars, because all men are brothers... Each one owes
infinitely more to the human race than to th
With all due respect, are not we all invaders at some point in time?
Best,
Manuel Spínola
2011/9/10 David L. McNeely
> Matt Chew wrote:
>
> > We can compose effectively endless lists of cases where human agency has
> > redistributed biota and thereby affected pre-existing populations,
>
Matt Chew wrote:
> We can compose effectively endless lists of cases where human agency has
> redistributed biota and thereby affected pre-existing populations,
> ecological relationships and traditional or potential economic
> opportunities. Those are indisputable facts.
The House Sparro
Howdy folks-
The assertion that affiliation with university-level research renders a
finding suspect or an opinion dubious should interest members of this list.
We can compose effectively endless lists of cases where human agency has
redistributed biota and thereby affected pre-existing populatio
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Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2011 09:53:55 +0300
From: "Witt, Arne (CABI-Africa)"
Subject: Re: [Aliens-L] Opinion Article in TheScientist
Dear All
As an invasion biologist and ecologist I am all
too aware of the impacts that invasive plants
have on biodiversity but
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