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Eric
Eric North
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Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2012 08:14:11 -0800
From: landr...@cox.net
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions EVOLUTION
Meaning and Understanding
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Ecolog
Douglas Shoemaker shoem...@pdx.edu wrote:
Finally, I wonder what can be said of a system that has produced Love? Is
this not directional advancement?
Not any more than fingers, pheromones, or flagella would be.
David McNeely
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Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
David and Ecolog:
I think I understand and believe everything you say except I do not
understand how you conclude that the discussion is one of semantics
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 7:46 PM
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What would Buzz Holling say? Panarchy theory posits that biological
evolution generates hierarchical structure. This would
infer directionality. And in the conceptual model
PM
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Point taken, although I think that the general public and perhaps many
scientists without much training in the principles of evolution would
take the meaning of progress to be the former, with a connotation of
superior. My goal
I have used the 'Understanding Evolution' site from UC-Berkeley
extensively when teaching evolution. There's a great list
of 'misconceptions' here:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/misconceptions_faq.php
John
John C. Withey | Assistant Professor
Department of Biological Sciences | FIU
that necessarily makes that
true.
Best, Jeff H.
From: Mitch Cruzan [cru...@pdx.edu]
Sent: December 7, 2012 3:03 AM
To: Jeff Houlahan
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Hi Jeff, Joey, and all the rest
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions
Ecolog:
I would like to commend Wayne for his devil's advocate approach to
suggesting the third question and starting this discussion. It seems my
original interpretation was correct: the whole purpose of the question was
to dispel
:43 AM
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Caveat: I probably don't know what I'm talking about
I am in no way an evolutionary biologist, but for as long as I can remember,
have been aware that the conventional wisdom is that evolution does not
imply progress
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Ecolog:
I would like to commend Wayne for his devil's
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Ecolog:
I would like to commend Wayne for his devil's advocate approach to
suggesting the third question and starting
that there is anything that necessarily makes that
true.
Best, Jeff H.
From: Mitch Cruzan [cru...@pdx.edu]
Sent: December 7, 2012 3:03 AM
To: Jeff Houlahan
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Hi Jeff, Joey
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From: Joey Smokey northwestbird...@gmail.com
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Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2012 3:24 PM
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Ecolog:
I would like to commend Wayne for his devil's advocate approach to
suggesting the third
, and advance mean. To
different people, they mean different things.
WT
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From: David L. McNeely mcnee...@cox.net
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Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 7:09 AM
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Hello
mean. To
different people, they mean different things.
WT
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Hello All,
I believe
. . .
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From: Ian Ramjohn iramj...@outlook.com
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I think the problem here stems from equating progress with teleology. When
people think of evolution
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Wayne Tyson landr...@cox.net wrote:
David and Ecolog:
I think I understand and believe everything you say except I do not
understand how you conclude that the discussion is one of semantics.
It is a matter of what improve
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From: thomas.w.culli...@aphis.usda.gov
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You might want to rephrase your question #3
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:51 PM
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Jason,
I strongly advise against the third question. Evolution is not
directional,
and the question is worded to suggest
AM
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Hello all,
I have spent some time thinking about this topic over the last several years.
As a relatively 'green' evolutionary ecologist I rarely enter these debates in
public forums.
My opinion's
:03 AM
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Hello all,
I have spent some time thinking about this topic over the last several
years. As a relatively 'green' evolutionary ecologist I rarely enter these
debates in public forums.
My opinion's
Tyson
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:00 PM
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In Darwin's Origin the theory was one of adaptation, not advancement.
Unfortunately Spencer coined the fittest remark and that was a popular
mode
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Hello
I think that the interesting debate generated by the issue
.
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Hello
I think that the interesting
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Hello
I think that the interesting debate generated by the issue of
evolutionary progress is exactly why it's a good
, 2012 2:15 PM
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Hello
I think that the interesting debate generated by the issue of
evolutionary progress is exactly why it's a good topic for this panel.
It makes people think carefully about definitions
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Ecolog:
I would like to commend Wayne for his devil's
] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions
Dear group,
I have compiled some of the ideas that were given to me about my discussion
panel. The response was much lower than I expected so if you have any ideas,
feel free to share those as well. Thank you to all those that contributed.
1. Will most
.
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Jason,
I strongly
From: thomas.w.culli...@aphis.usda.gov
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You might want to rephrase your question #3, for it's not organisms that
evolve, but populations.
Tom Culliney
USDA-APHIS, PPQ
Center for Plant Health
From: thomas.w.culli...@aphis.usda.gov
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions
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You might want to rephrase your question #3, for it's not organisms that
evolve, but populations.
Tom Culliney
USDA-APHIS, PPQ
Center for Plant Health
, if this subject is considered unimportant, proper
actions can be taken, eh?
WT
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From: Joey Smokey northwestbird...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2012 1:51 PM
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Jason,
I
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Jason,
I strongly advise against the third question. Evolution is not directional,
and the question is worded to suggest that it is. If the point of the
question is to dispel
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Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 9:00 PM
Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Discussion Panel Topic Suggestions
In Darwin's Origin the theory was one of adaptation, not advancement.
Unfortunately Spencer coined the fittest remark and that was a popular mode
of thinking
Dear group,
I have compiled some of the ideas that were given to me about my discussion
panel. The response was much lower than I expected so if you have any ideas,
feel free to share those as well. Thank you to all those that contributed.
1. Will most organisms be capable of adapting
Jason,
I strongly advise against the third question. Evolution is not directional,
and the question is worded to suggest that it is. If the point of the
question is to dispel the idea of evolution being directional, then it
would be fine.
There are many common misconceptions of organisms
Jason et y'all:
Good idea. Better yet pick out the biggest elephant in the room that is
taboo for discussion.
Here's one that I thought was pretty universally settled until I posted it
on a widely-known evolutionary biology site, got one response from one of
the big names--who then declined
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