Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-20 Thread Robert Gundy
Let me start with saying I am pretty sure I did not reply to this conversation the way I think I am supposed to reply, so forgive me for any resulting mishaps. I have been reading this topic on the loss of field-based courses with great interest and have collected some of my thoughts. It is an

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-15 Thread Cory
of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J Sent: 14 May 2014 12:36 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past January, I noted the absence

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-15 Thread Malcolm McCallum
] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J Sent: 14 May 2014 12:36 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past January, I noted the absence of many University graduate students that once represented

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-15 Thread ling huang
: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J Sent: 14 May 2014 12:36 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past January

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread David L. McNeely
I have been observing this for some time now. Organisms and their habitats are being written out of biology, so far as direct experience with them is concerned. We soon will have no means of knowing what is going on in nature, as no one will be investigating nature, or even have a clue as to

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Mike Nolan
Thanks for bringing this topic up Dr. Inouye. You know what they saySpecialists learn more and more about less and less until someday they will know everything about nothing. It's even happening at the High School level. I was once given carte blanche to to re-design an ailing advanced

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Malcolm McCallum
This is what happens when departments/schools jump on fads and/or new ideas 100% at the expense of other areas. Today, this is happening with nanotech and bioinformatics. There is always a new wave of things to add. The problem is not sacrificing the old in pursuit of bringing in the new. This

Re: [ECOLOG-L] [PossibleSpam] Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Chris Ayers
, 2014 9:07 AM To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Subject: [PossibleSpam] Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses I have been observing this for some time now. Organisms and their habitats are being written out of biology, so far as direct experience with them is concerned. We soon will have

Re: [ECOLOG-L] [PossibleSpam] Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Malcolm McCallum
, May 14, 2014 9:07 AM To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Subject: [PossibleSpam] Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses I have been observing this for some time now. Organisms and their habitats are being written out of biology, so far as direct experience with them is concerned. We soon

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Russell L. Burke
] [PossibleSpam] Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses Sure, many do. However, I just interviewed at a land grant last week that had only ichthyology from what I could see. I guess they could have been hidden somewhere and I missed them. Its not that hard to miss! :) M On Wed, May 14, 2014

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Fisher, Shannon J
of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:23 AM To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses Thanks for bringing this topic up Dr. Inouye. You know what they saySpecialists

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread Chris Harrod
Message- From: Ecological Society of America: grants, jobs, news [mailto:ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu] On Behalf Of Mike Nolan Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2014 10:23 AM To: ECOLOG-L@listserv.umd.edu Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses Thanks for bringing this topic up Dr. Inouye. You

Re: [ECOLOG-L] loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread McDonald, John E.
Those of us in the wildlife field have noticed the same trend for a while. It has prompted some folks to use the professional society as a vehicle to provide field-based training opportunities. The Northeast Section of The Wildlife Society started a 2-week field course for college students,

Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses

2014-05-14 Thread amod saini
@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU] On Behalf Of Fisher, Shannon J Sent: 14 May 2014 12:36 To: ECOLOG-L@LISTSERV.UMD.EDU Subject: Re: [ECOLOG-L] Loss of field-based courses At the Midwest Fish and Wildlife Conference in Kansas City this past January, I noted the absence of many University graduate students