Re: One-tailed, two-tailed

2001-12-30 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, Stan Brown wrote in part: A. G. McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The significance value associated with the one-tailed test will always be half the significance value associated with the two-tailed test, For means, yes. Not for proportions, I think. Oh? Why not?

Re: Missing data cell problem

2001-12-30 Thread Donald Burrill
In trying to clear out my e-mail inbox, I came across this post, for which there seemed not to have been any responses. On Fri, 2 Feb 2001, Caroline Brown wrote: I have an analysis problem, which I am researching solutions to, and David Howell of UVM suggested I mail the query to you. My

Re: Statistical illiteracy

2001-12-29 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 26 Dec 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote (edited): I came across a table of costume jewelry at a department store with a sign that said 150% off. I asked them how much they would pay me to take it all off of their hands. I had to explain to them what 150% meant, and they

Re: Logarithms (was: When to Use t and When to Use z Revisited)

2001-12-25 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Vadim and Oxana Marmer wrote: besides, who needs those tables? we have computers now, don't we? I was told that there were tables for logarithms once. I have not seen one in my life. Is not it the same kind of stuff? If you _want_ to see one, you have no farther to go

Re: analysis of criterion test data

2001-12-24 Thread Donald Burrill
On 24 Dec 2001, Carol Burris wrote: I am a doctoral student who wants to use student performance on a criterion test, a state Regents exam, as a dependent variable in a quasi-experimental study. The effects of previous achievement can be controlled for using a standardized test, the Iowa

Re: Is this how you would have done it?

2001-12-23 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Ralph Noble asked: How would you have done this? A local newspaper asked its readers to rank the year's Top 10 news stories by completing a ballot form. There were 10 choices on all but one ballot (i.e. local news, sports news, business news, etc.), and you had to

Re: s-function in SPSS curve estimation

2001-12-21 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, Johannes Hartig wrote: Does anyone know the original applications or the meaning of the S-function in SPSS? I know the function itself: Y = e**(b0 + (b1/t)) or ln(Y) = b0 + (b1/t) and I know how the curve looks like, but I am wondering in which fields of research

RE: Statistical illiteracy

2001-12-17 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 14 Dec 2001, Wuensch, Karl L wrote: I came across a table of costume jewelry at a department store with a sign that said 150% off. I asked them how much they would pay me to take it all off of their hands. I had to explain to them what 150% meant, and they then explained to me

Re: When to Use t and When to Use z Revisited

2001-12-09 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Ronny Richardson wrote in part: Bluman has a figure (2, page 333) that is supposed to show the student When to Use the z or t Distribution. I have seen a similar figure in several different textbooks. So have I, sometimes as a diagram or flow chart, sometimes in

Re: What usually should be done with missing values ...

2001-12-02 Thread Donald Burrill
On 1 Dec 2001, jenny wrote: What should I do with the missing values in my data. I need to perform a t test of two samples to test the mean difference between them. How should I handle them in S-Plus or SAS? 1. What do S-Plus and/or SAS do with missing values by default? (All

Re: Evaluating students: A Statistical Perspective

2001-11-27 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Thom Baguley wrote in part: Donald Burrill wrote: On Fri, 23 Nov 2001, L.C. wrote: The question got me thinking about this problem as a multiple comparison problem. Exam scores are typically sums of problem scores. The problem scores may be thought

Re: Evaluating students: A Statistical Perspective

2001-11-24 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, L.C. wrote: Thanks for the reply! As for the iid, it's reasonable to believe the questions could be drawn from some population. Why not the answers? If the questions are selected in accordance with some table of specifications, they are not from _a_ population, but

Re: Need help with a probability problem

2001-11-20 Thread Donald Burrill
On 20 Nov 2001, J. Peter Leeds wrote: I'm working on a formula for measuring decision making skill and am trying to estimate the probability that a person of known skill can distinguish among different response option contrasts and avoid a type II error. One effective way

Re: F distribution

2001-11-18 Thread Donald Burrill
On 17 Nov 2001, Myles Gartland wrote: In an F distribution, the critical value for the lower tail is the reciprocal of the the critical value of the upper tail (with the degrees of freedom switched). Why? I understand how to calculate it, but do not get why the math works. Essentially

Re: regression on timeseries data: differencing ?

2001-11-15 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Wendy (alias Eric Duton?) wrote: When applying multiple regression on timeseries data, should I check (similarly to ARIMA-models) for unit roots in the dependent variable and the predictor variables and perform the necessary differencing OR could

Re: When one should stop sampling?

2001-11-13 Thread Donald Burrill
On 12 Nov 2001, Niko Tiliopoulos wrote: I am acting as the stats advisor for my unit in the psychology department of the University of Edinburgh, UK. Last week a colleague of mine presented me with the following issue, and I am not quite sure how to respond: She is running a

Re: regression on timeseries data: differencing ?

2001-11-13 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 13 Nov 2001, Wendy (alias Eric Duton?) wrote: When applying multiple regression on timeseries data, should I check (similarly to ARIMA-models) for unit roots in the dependent variable and the predictor variables and perform the necessary differencing OR could I simply start

Re: Evaluating students

2001-11-13 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 14 Nov 2001, Alan McLean wrote in part: Herman Rubin wrote: A good exam would be one which someone who has merely memorized the book would fail, and one who understands the concepts but has forgotten all the formulas would do extremely well on. Since to understand the

Re: Z Scores and stuff

2001-11-10 Thread Donald Burrill
You persist in repeating your original request in your original phrasing, with no elaboration(s) that might resolve the ambiguities therein. On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, Mark T wrote: On Fri, 09 Nov 2001 Rich Ulrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 8 Nov 2001 Mark T [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: Can I Use Wilcoxon Rank Sum Test for Correlated Clustered Data??

2001-11-01 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 1 Nov 2001, Chia C Chong wrote: I am a beginner in the statistical analysis and hypothesis. I have 2 variables (A and B) from an experiment that was observed for a certain period time. I need to form a statistical model that will model these two variables. Seems to me you're

Re: What is a confidence interval?

2001-10-30 Thread Donald Burrill
In reviewing some not-yet-deleted email, I came across this one, and have no record of its error(s) having been corrected. On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, John Jackson wrote: How do describe the data that does not reside in the area described by the confidence interval? For example, you have a two

Re: Comparing percent correct to correct by chance

2001-10-28 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 28 Oct 2001, Melady Preece wrote: Hi. I want to compare the percentage of correct identifications (taste test) to the percentage that would be correct by chance 50%? (only two items being tasted). Can I use a t-test to compare the percentages? What would I use for the s.d. for

Re: Graphics CORRESPONDENCE ANALYSIS

2001-10-24 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 24 Oct 2001, Rich Ulrich wrote in part: It has been my impression (from google) that CA is more popular in European journals than in the US, so there might be better sites out there in a language I don't read. (CA = correspondence analysis, ou en francais analyse des

Re: Final Exam story

2001-10-13 Thread Donald Burrill
The story is about six students who ... The instructor ... tells them to report the next day for an exam with only one question. If they all get it right they all pass. They were seated at corners of the room and could not communicate. Must have been an interesting room, with six corners

Re: Bimodal distribution

2001-10-13 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 12 Oct 2001, Desmond Cheung (of Simon Fraser University, Vancouver, BC) wrote: Is there any mathematical analysis to find how much the two peaks stand out from the other data? Hard to answer, not knowing where you're coming from with the question. Any answer depends on the

Re: ranging opines about the range

2001-10-06 Thread Donald Burrill
William B. Ware [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, more to the point... the add one is an old argument based on the notion of real limits. Suppose the range of scores is 50 to 89. It was argued that 50 really goes down to 49.5 and 89 really goes up to 89.5. Thus the range was defined as

Re: Help with Minitab Problem?

2001-09-30 Thread Donald Burrill
Turns out the method I originally suggested is unnecessarily cumbersome. A more elegant method is described below. On Sat, 29 Sep 2001, Donald Burrill wrote in part: COPY c1-c35 to c41-c75; # Always retain the original data OMIT c1 = '*'; OMIT c2

Re: E as a % of a standard deviation

2001-09-29 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, John Jackson wrote: Here is my solution using figures which are self-explanatory: Sample Size Determination pi = 50% central area 0.99 confid level= 99% 2 tail area 0.5 sampling

Re: Help with Minitab Problem?

2001-09-29 Thread Donald Burrill
I second Dennis' question. While indeed MINITAB recognizes the missing values, what it does with them depends on the procedure being used: e.g., for CORRelation it uses all cases for which each pair of variables is complete (pairwise deletion of missing data), and therefore, for a data set like

Re: E as a % of a standard deviation

2001-09-29 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 28 Sep 2001, John Jackson wrote in part: My formula is a rearrangement of the confidence interval formula shown below for ascertaining the maximum error. E = Z(a/2) x SD/SQRT N The issue is you want to solve for N, but you have no standard deviation value.

Re: One more time--Two Factor Kruskal-Wallis

2001-09-22 Thread Donald Burrill
Hi, Carol. I'm taking the liberty of posting this to the Edstat (statistical education) list as well as the Minitab list. On Fri, 21 Sep 2001, Carol DiGiorgio wrote: My question is: I would like to run 2-way ANOVA on my data. Unfortunately it doesn't meet the assumptions of normality or

RE: effect size/significance

2001-09-13 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Paul R. Swank wrote in part: Dennis said other than being able to say that the experimental group ... ON AVERAGE ... had a mean that was about 1.11 times (control group sd units) larger than the control group mean, which is purely DESCRIPTIVE ... what can you say

Re: Definitions of Likert scale, Likert item, etc.

2001-09-07 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Magenta wrote in part: (responding to Rich Ulrich's remark:) Michelle, I hope that you now know that you got tangled up in hypothetical illustrations which you now regret. Sure do, I think that if you redid it so that the scale was now: don't agree

RE: Boston Globe: MCAS results show weakness in teens' grasp of

2001-08-30 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 28 Aug 2001, Dennis Roberts wrote in part: however ... the flagging of outliers is totally arbitrary ... i see no rationale for saying that if a data point is 1.5 IQRs away from some point ... that there is something significant about that If the data are normally distributed (or

Re: a problem.

2001-08-27 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 26 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have trouble to solve this probability problem. Hope get help here. There is N balls, Pick up M1 balls with replacement from them. what is the expected value of different balls we pick up? Expected value of what characteristic of the balls?

Re: adjusted r-square

2001-08-21 Thread Donald Burrill
On 21 Aug 2001, Atul wrote: How do we calculate the adjusted r-square when the error degrees of freedom are zero ? (Or in other words, number of samples is equal to the number of regression terms including the constant.) Such a situation leads to a zero in the denominator in the

Re: large N, categorical outcomes, significance?

2001-08-18 Thread Donald Burrill
One approach: (I assume that by residual you mean (O-E)/sqrt(E) for each cell of a two-way frequency table, where O=observed frequency and E=expected frequency under the null hypothesis). For the several (or the single) largest residual(s), report O and E as proportions (of total N).

Re: Presenting results of categorical data?

2001-08-15 Thread Donald Burrill
On 14 Aug 2001, Nolan Madson wrote: I have a data set of answers to questions on employee performance. The answers available are: Exceeded Expectations Met Expectations Did Not Meet Expectations The answers can be assigned weights [that is, scores -- DFB] of 3,2,1 (Exceeded, Met,

Re: sampling/subsample query

2001-08-01 Thread Donald Burrill
Some clarification would help. See below. On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Teen Assessment Project wrote: I have an overall sample of 5000+ from 40+ different towns and 6 different grades. In approximately equal numbers per town/grade, or not? Are all 6 grades (which grades?) represented in each

Re: log

2001-07-31 Thread Donald Burrill
On 31 Jul 2001, ToM wrote: what is the opposite of a log?[logarithm] An antilog [properly, antilogarithm]. Equivalently, 10 to that power (if, as in your example, you are taking logarithms to the base 10); or e to that power (if you are taking natural logarithms), which is also called

Re: web page to help use normal table

2001-07-28 Thread Donald Burrill
Use the table twice -- for P(0Zz1) and P(0Zz2) -- and then subtract or add, depending on whether the desired signs of z1 and z2 are the same or different. -- DFB. On Sat, 28 Jul 2001, Cantor wrote: I did not try to examine your work thoroughly but at the very beginning I

Re: confidence interval

2001-07-28 Thread Donald Burrill
If you don't happen to have a convenient r -- Z conversion table handy, it may be helpful to know, for step 1. below, that Z = 0.5 log((1+r)/(1-r)) or, equivalently, Z = tanh^(-1)r = the hyperbolic arctangent of r. (log is the natural logarithm.) It follows that, given a

Re: need help with SAS

2001-07-27 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 27 Jul 2001, Nadine Wells wrote in part: Does anyone know what the power link function does in SAS? [...] when I plot the equation based on the parameter estimates, the model doesn't seem to look like I want it to. [...] I am trying to get SAS to run a model that resembles

Re: vote counting

2001-07-25 Thread Donald Burrill
The answers to your questions depend heavily on structural information that you almost certainly don't have, else one would not bother to have arranged a voting process. But consider two very different cases: A. Voters are absolutely indifferent to candidates: that is, all the candidates

Re: SRSes

2001-07-24 Thread Donald Burrill
Hi, Dennis! Yes, as you point out, most elementary textbooks treat only SRS types of samples. But while (as you also point out) some more realistic sampling methods entail larger sampling variance than SRS, some of them have _smaller_ variance -- notably, stratified designs when the

Re: Multiple measurements

2001-07-20 Thread Donald Burrill
Hi, Ivan. I think your problem may not be so simple as you've described it. But to begin with the simplest: In terms of area in mm^2, simply multiplying length x width, all of the ultrasound (US) samples except one have smaller areas than any of the high-speed drill (AR) samples; 6

Re: statistical similarity of two text

2001-07-18 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 17 Jul 2001, Cantor wrote: Does anybody know where I can find program on the website which [can] compare two texts/articles and settle whether or not they are similar assuming any significant level. Sorry, Cantor: this is not possible, in general. One can discover whether two

Re: Interpreting effect size.

2001-07-15 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 15 Jul 2001, Melady Preece wrote: I have done a paired t-test on a measure of self-esteem before and after a six-week group intervention. There is a significant difference (in the right direction!) between the means using a paired t-test, p=.009. The effect size is .29 if I

Re: EdStat: Triangular coordinates

2001-07-11 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001, Alex Yu wrote: I am trying to understand Triangular coordinates -- a kind of graph which combines four dimensions into 2D You meant, condenses four dimensions into 3D, didn't you? Your subsequent description indicates three dimensions all together, two of them used

Re: SPSS

2001-07-06 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, David Schaefer wrote: My Stats professor is having us run some correlations and what not through SPSS. She has asked us to transform some raw scores to z-scores for a reading achievement test. The commands she has asked us to type in the syntax editor is:

Re: Help with stats please

2001-06-24 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 24 Jun 2001, Melady Preece wrote in part: I am teaching educational statistics for the first time, and although I can go on at length about complex statistical techniques, I find myself at a loss with this multiple choice question in my test bank. I understand why the range of

Re: meta-analysis

2001-06-22 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 22 Jun 2001, Marc Esser wrote: After a closer look at the trials which I want to summarize, I noticed that not the means are reported, but the medians. Do you have an idea how to calculate an effect size with this information, e.g. median change of hospitalization time. The

Re: meta-analysis

2001-06-17 Thread Donald Burrill
On 17 Jun 2001, Marc wrote (edited): I have to summarize the results of some clinical trials. The information given in the trials contain: Mean effects (days of hospitalization) in treatment control groups; numbers of patients in the groups; p-values of a t-test (of the difference

Re: individual item analysis

2001-06-15 Thread Donald Burrill
In response to Doug Sawyer's post: I am trying to locate a journal article or textbook that addresses whether or not exam quesitons can be normalized, when the questions are grouped differently. For example, could a question bank be developed where any subset of questions could be

Re: multivariate techniques for large datasets

2001-06-12 Thread Donald Burrill
On 11 Jun 2001, srinivas wrote: I have a problem in identifying the right multivariate tools to handle datset of dimension 1,00,000*500. The problem is still complicated with lot of missing data. So far, you have not described the problem you want to address, nor the models you think

Re: Correction procedure

2001-06-03 Thread Donald Burrill
On 3 Jun 2001, Bekir wrote, in part: My aim was to compare groups 2, 3, 4, 5 with control (group 1). ... The rewiever had written me: Accordingly, a statistical penalty needs to be paid in order to account for the increased risk of a Type 1 error due to multiple comparisons. The

Re: correction procedures

2001-06-02 Thread Donald Burrill
On 2 Jun 2001, Bekir wrote in part: I performed a study on different enteral nutrients and bacterial translocation in experimental obstructive jaundice. There was 5 groups of rats. Each group consists of 20 rats. Occurred Translocation incidences in mesenteric lymph nodes were shown in

Re: Ninety Percent above Median

2001-05-31 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 31 May 2001, W. D. Allen Sr. wrote: Only from the education field do we hear the statement that over ninety percent of students ranked above the median! The statement was made on TV. (1) I take it that it was the keyword students that led you to suppose that the statement had

Re: Variance in z test comparing percenteges

2001-05-18 Thread Donald Burrill
yOn Sat, 12 May 2001, RD wrote, inter alia: The only approach to deal with z test for means that I have seen so far was using s^2 = s1^2/n1 + s2^2/n2 formula. t test is always using pooled variance. I think not _always_. _Usually_, because (i) there is seldom a strong need to

Re: Intepreting MANOVA and legitimacy of ANOVA

2001-05-18 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 18 May 2001, auda wrote (slightly edited): In my experiment, [when] two dependent variables DV1 and DV2 [were] analyzed separately with ANOVA, the independent variable [IV (with ] two levels IV_1 and IV_2) modulated DV1 and DV2 differentially: mean DV1 in IV_1 mean DV1 in IV_2

Re: A regressive question

2001-05-16 Thread Donald Burrill
If the mean of the predictor X is zero, the intercept is equal to the mean of the dependent variable Y, however steep or shallow the slope may be. And as Jim pointed out, the standard error of a predicted value depends on its distance from the mean of X (being larger the farther away it is

Re: Question

2001-05-10 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 10 May 2001, Magill, Brett wrote, inter alia: How should these data be analyzed? The difficulty is that the data are cross level. Not the traditional multi-level model however. Hi, Brett. I don't understand this statement. Looks to me like an obvious place to apply multilevel

Re: A question

2001-05-04 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 4 May 2001, Alan McLean wrote: Can anyone tell me what is the distribution of the ratio of sample variances when the ratio of population variances is not 1, but some specified other number? Depends. If the two samples on which the variances are based are _independent_,

Re: Please help

2001-05-04 Thread Donald Burrill
I rather think the problem is not adequately defined; but that may merely reflect the fact that it's a homework problem, and homework problems often require highly simplifying assumptions in order to be addressed at all. See comments below. On Fri, 4 May 2001, Adil Abubakar wrote: My name

Re: Orthogonality of Designs for Experiments

2001-05-04 Thread Donald Burrill
Short answers below; which may or may not adequately address the lurking questions you had in mind. On Fri, 4 May 2001, Jeff wrote: Would like to ask [for] help with the following questions: 1. why designs for experiments should be orthogonal ? So that results for each factor, and each

Re: (none)

2001-05-03 Thread Donald Burrill
Thanks, Rich. My semi-automatic crap detector hits DELETE when it sees things like this anyway; but... did you notice that although SamFaz (or whoever, really) claims to cite a bill passed by the U.S. Congress he she or it is actually writing from Canada? I'm not quite sure what to

Re: probability and repeats

2001-05-01 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 1 May 2001, Dale Glaser wrote in part: a colleague just approached me with the following problem at work: he wants to know the number of possible combinations of boxes, with repeats being viable...so, e.g,. if there are 3 boxes then what he wants to get at is the following

Re: Joining edstat

2001-04-28 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just joined the listserv. Our professor is giving us extra credit if we join an email list re: stats. I was able to pull up one of his messages from last year. Pretty cool. Have a great day! You might ask him whether additional extra

Re: Help me an idiot

2001-04-28 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 28 Apr 2001, Abdul Rahman wrote: Please help me with my statistics. If you order a burger from McDonald's you have a choice of the following condiments: ketchup, mustard , lettuce. pickles, and mayonnaise. A customer can ask for all these condiments or any subset of them when

Re: A disarmingly simple conjecture

2001-04-28 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Giuseppe Andrea Paleologo wrote: I am dealing with a simple conjecture. Given two generic positive random variables, is it always true that the sum of the quantiles (for a given value p) is greater or equal than the quantile of the sum? snip, technical

Re: errors in journal articles

2001-04-27 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, Lise DeShea wrote in part: I teach statistics and experimental design at the University of Kentucky, and I give journal articles to my students occasionally with instructions to identify what kind of research was conducted, what the independent and dependent

Re: ANCOVA vs. sequential regression

2001-04-23 Thread Donald Burrill
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001, jim clark wrote: On 22 Apr 2001, Donald Burrill wrote: If I were doing it, I'd begin with a full model (or augmented model, in Judd McClelland's terms) containing three predictors: y = b0 + b1*X + b2*A + b3*(AX) + error where A had been recoded to (0,1

Re: normal approx. to binomial

2001-04-10 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, Gary Carson wrote: It's the proportion of success (x/n) which has approxiatmenly a normal distribution for large n, not the number of success (x). Both are approximately normal. (If the r.v. W = (x/n) is (approximately) normally distributed, then the r.v. V = x = n*W

SAT z3 (Was: Re: (no subject))

2001-04-02 Thread Donald Burrill
Everything you need is in what you wrote. You do understand that "z" is the usual shorthand for "a standard score", and that a standard score is the representation of a given raw score as its deviation from the population mean in standard-deviation units? The rest is merely a lookup in a

Re: convergent validity

2001-03-30 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 30 Mar 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Donald Burrill writes: On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, H.Goudriaan wrote in part: - my questionnaire items are measured on 5- and 7-point Likert scales, and consequently not (bivariate) normally distributed; Real data hardly ever is. Do

Re: convergent validity

2001-03-29 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 29 Mar 2001, H.Goudriaan wrote in part: - my questionnaire items are measured on 5- and 7-point Likert scales, so they're not measured on an interval level Non sequitur. and consequently not (bivariate) normally distributed; Real data hardly ever is. Do you need it to

Re: statistical errors

2001-03-23 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Paul R Swank wrote: I prefer the ocular test myself. Were you referring to the intraocular traumatic test? (It strikes you between the eyes.) -- Don. Donald

Re: Was: MIT Sexism statistical bunk

2001-03-15 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, dennis roberts wrote in part: ps ... a conclusion that lots of people don't agree with one another will not be too helpful Maybe not, but it sure would be realistic -- which might be reassuring to some of our students who have their own doubts on that score about our

Re: One tailed vs. Two tailed test

2001-03-12 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 13 Mar 2001, Will Hopkins wrote in part: Example: you observe an effect of +5.3 units, one-tailed p = 0.04. Therefore there is a probability of 0.04 that the true value is less than zero. Sorry, that's incorrect. The probability is 0.04 that you would find an effect as large as

Re: Regression with repeated measures

2001-03-08 Thread Donald Burrill
Hi, Rich. The only answer I recall having seen on the listserve was one suggesting multilevel (aka "hierarchical") modelling. If one wanted to address the problem without ML modelling, I'd be inclined to proceed as follows: (1) I assume, in the absence of commentary to the contrary, that

Re: Patenting a statistical innovation

2001-03-07 Thread Donald Burrill
In response to dennis roberts, who wrote in part: i see "inventing" some algorithm as snip not quite in the same genre of developing a process for extracting some enzyme from a substance ... using a particular piece of equipment specially developed for that purpose i hope we

Re: norm curve template

2001-03-06 Thread Donald Burrill
Dennis also included [EMAIL PROTECTED] among his addressees, but I am not on that list and therefore cannot reply to them... On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, dennis roberts wrote: may eons ago ... 1974 to be precise ... i had this idea of making a small plastic normal and skewed curve template ... that

Re: power,beta, etc.

2001-03-05 Thread Donald Burrill
In response to Dennis's earlier statement, "that is ... power in many cases is a highly overrated CORRECT decision" I wrote: Well, no. Overrated it may be (that lies, I think, in the eye of the beholder); but a _decision_ it is definitely not. Power is the _probability_ of making a

Re: power,beta, etc.

2001-03-04 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, dennis roberts wrote in part: i know that sometimes power is "defined" as 1 - beta ... but, beta could therefore (algebraically and logically) be defined as 1 - power Only for the conditional definition of power; I would wish to add the conditional clause "when the

Re: Fisher's z-transformation

2001-03-03 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, Arenson, Ethan wrote: Would someone please remind me the formula for Fisher's z-transformation of correlation coefficients? Z = 0.5 log[(1 + r)/(1 - r)] (using the natural logarithm). Its standard error is 1/sqrt(n - 3) ("sqrt" = "square root of"). To

Re: Trend analysis question

2001-03-03 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Philip Cozzolino wrote in part: However, after the cubic non-significant finding, the 4th and 5th order trends are significant. Intuitively, it seems that if there is no cubic trend of significance, there will not be any higher order trend, but this is relatively new

Re: power,beta, etc.

2001-03-03 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 3 Mar 2001, dennis roberts wrote: when we discuss things like power, beta, type I error, etc. ... we often show a 2 by 2 table ... similar to null truenull false retain correct type II, beta reject type I, alpha power

Re: Post-hoc comparisons

2001-03-02 Thread Donald Burrill
Hi, Esa! You've had a couple of responses; here's another. You state "pairwise comparisons"; but it strikes me as at least possible that you might want (or might _also_ want) to consider more complex comparisons if any such comparisons seemed to offer a more parsimonious

Re: Regression with repeated measures

2001-03-01 Thread Donald Burrill
On Wed, 28 Feb 2001, Mike Granaas wrote in part (and 2 paragraphs of descriptive prose quoted at the end): ... is there some method that will allow him to get the prediction equation he wants? Probably the best approach is the multilevel (aka hierarchical) modelling advocated by previous

Re: basic stats question

2001-02-26 Thread Donald Burrill
Perhaps jthis is too superficial -- no time to think more deeply just now. But I suspect the difference between your two scenarios below is that with exactly 5 computers to deal with (i.e., population size = 5) you are sampling without replacement (which is only sensible, for the background

Re: pizza

2001-02-24 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sat, 24 Feb 2001, Mike Granaas wrote: Interesting point. Yes, if the Ss do something other than a random guess the binomial model would be violated. The question then becomes what would they do if they are uncertain? I suspect that they would fall back on visual inspection...which

Re: intermediate stats textbook?

2001-02-20 Thread Donald Burrill
A quick reply. Looks somewhat like the second course ("Intermediate Statistics and Research Design") I taught for some years at OISE, Toronto, which was (and is) the Graduate Department of Education for the University of Toronto. Ask for more later if you want... On Tue, 20 Feb 2001, Lise

Re: citations journals (satire)

2001-02-17 Thread Donald Burrill
I note that in the literature cited, the word "nauseam" (in the Latin phrase "ad nauseam") is misspelled both times it appears. -- DFB. On Sat, 17 Feb 2001, Jeff Rasmussen wrote: a spoof on the glut of journals:

Re: Two sided test with the chi-square distribution?

2001-02-10 Thread Donald Burrill
On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, jim clark wrote in part: We all agree that it is confusing, but I do believe that the use of one-tailed and two-tailed to refer to directional vs. non-directional hypotheses (rather than uniquely to one or two tails of a distribution) is very wide-spread and quite common.

Re: ANOVA : Repeated Measures?

2001-02-09 Thread Donald Burrill
If for each Subject you have 4 Measures in each of the 3 Conditions, then both Conditions and Measures are repeated-measures factors: you design may be symbolized as S x C x M -- that is, Subjects (5 levels) are crossed with both Conditions and Measures. This design is equivalent to

Re: Two sided test with the chi-square distribution?

2001-02-08 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, jim clark wrote in part: The problem is that one-tailed test is taken as synonymous with directional hypothesis (e.g., Ha: Mu1Mu2). This causes no confusion with distributions such as the t-test, because directional implies one-tailed. This correspondence does not hold

Re: unequal n's: quadratic weights

2001-01-31 Thread Donald Burrill
On Tue, 30 Jan 2001, Kathleen Bloom wrote: If you have unequal n's, and want to determine linear parameters, you can develop new coefficients by taking the normal unweighted coefficients (e.g., -1, 0, +1, for three group design) and the formula: n1(X1) + n2(X2) + n3(X3)/ n1+n2+n3

Re: Margin Analysis Qstn

2001-01-30 Thread Donald Burrill
On Mon, 29 Jan 2001, Chris wrote in part: My current job requires me to analyze margins from the sales of various products and provide an average for each during the quarter. I am using a very large sample of all product sales by month. (Margin, i.e. not markup. For those not familiar,

Re: change scores

2001-01-28 Thread Donald Burrill
On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Rich Ulrich quoted me: DB: What most people who use "ordinal" and "disordinal" seem to mean is a plot of the cell means (or of regression lines), with no adjustment for main effects: so, a display that includes the interaction AND the main effects. I take it

Re: A-D in matlab

2001-01-27 Thread Donald Burrill
On Sun, 28 Jan 2001, Veeral Patel wrote in part: Out of curiousty i decided to write a small prog to perform the A-D test in matlab for the gumbel distribution. Obtaining the gumbel parameters is easy. however the difficulty is in the actual A-D computation formula as stated by

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