Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2001-01-10 Thread Alf Breull
Of course, it's of strong advantage to use computers as reference tools, however, exactly the same tools are frequently used 'against' patients because of well-known dependencies within countries related health systems etc. Also, the doctor's final word again is a matter of his view, education an

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2001-01-08 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Fri, 05 Jan 2001 10:44:13 +, "P.G.Hamer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rich Ulrich wrote: > > > Computers do better than experts in making medical > > diagnoses when the correct answer has to be from a narrow set. > > I think that some of the early systems also were better than humans > a

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2001-01-05 Thread Alf Breull
On Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:42:02 -0500, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >alf> >> The problem is not the existence of literature, the problem is the >> content. > [ snip, ... essentially 'cite the good literature, in great detail' ] Not exactly -- I was asking for 'the good literature' in the

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2001-01-05 Thread P.G.Hamer
Rich Ulrich wrote: > Computers do better than experts in making medical > diagnoses when the correct answer has to be from a narrow set. I think that some of the early systems also were better than humans at identifying the possibility of unusual diagnoses. AFAIR it took the humans to reach a fi

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2001-01-04 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Sat, 30 Dec 2000 12:36:35 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alfred Breull) wrote: > On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:57:14 -0500, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >Jim's statement is not a "view"; it is 100% correct: there *is* a > >literature, and that does not depend at all on "your psychological .

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-31 Thread Peter Russell
I did some interview recently for our graduate intake. The standard of candidate we had called for interview was so high that I thought that we might as well select them at random. The personnel people involved appeared to be selecting on trivial criteria, for e.g. one candidate was marked down be

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-30 Thread Alfred Breull
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 15:57:14 -0500, Rich Ulrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Jim's statement is not a "view"; it is 100% correct: there *is* a >literature, and that does not depend at all on "your psychological ... >background."What makes your part "damnable" is that Jim wrote >neatly and i

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-29 Thread Rich Ulrich
On Fri, 29 Dec 2000 22:42:18 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Alf Breull) wrote: > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:32:54 -0600, jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: jim > > > >There is a considerable literature on clinical judgment (i.e., > >interview and human judgement) vs. actuarial predictions (i.e., > >pred

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-29 Thread Alf Breull
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000 16:32:54 -0600, jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >There is a considerable literature on clinical judgment (i.e., >interview and human judgement) vs. actuarial predictions (i.e., >predictions from demonstrably valid regression equations ... >human judgment _might_ be used in

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-28 Thread jim clark
Hi On Wed, 27 Dec 2000, T.S. Lim wrote: > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, John Uebersax wrote: > > > IMHO, psychological tests in this case should not substitute for a > > > thorough interview and human judgment. > > scores, but

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-27 Thread T.S. Lim
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, jim clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi > > On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, John Uebersax wrote: > > IMHO, psychological tests in this case should not substitute for a > > thorough interview and human judgment. > > > > Just my .02 worth. > > There is a considerable literat

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-26 Thread jim clark
Hi On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, John Uebersax wrote: > IMHO, psychological tests in this case should not substitute for a > thorough interview and human judgment. > > Just my .02 worth. There is a considerable literature on clinical judgment (i.e., interview and human judgement) vs. actuarial predictio

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-26 Thread Henry
On Sat, 23 Dec 2000 02:15:54 GMT, T.S. Lim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I was wondering if it's a common practice in Statistics to require job >applicants to take a psychological test. At the MS/PhD level (in the >US), I don't think it's common. However, some companies ask job >applicants to take a

Re: OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-26 Thread John Uebersax
I've never heard of any statistician position requiring a psychological test. Even when I worked at the RAND Corporation, where the position involved some degree of defense-related research, it was not required. (Frankly, if a firm required such a test, I would take that as a sign that it is not

OT: psychological test for recruitment in Statistics

2000-12-22 Thread T.S. Lim
My apology for posting an off-topic message. I was wondering if it's a common practice in Statistics to require job applicants to take a psychological test. At the MS/PhD level (in the US), I don't think it's common. However, some companies ask job applicants to take a test like the GRE Quantitat