Re: [Edu-sig] Brute force solutions

2005-09-22 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 22 Sep 2005 at 12:00, (Kirby Urner) wrote: Some lessons that might be learned from this approach: (1) when working with floats, you want to compare differences, not check for equalities, e.g. looking for when b/a == 1/b would be a bad idea. (2) you get greater accuracy in

Re: [Edu-sig] Dynamic Worksheets (Lee Harr)

2005-12-22 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 22 Dec 2005 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If education is entertainment, where is the incentive to create? Maybe the boredom is an integral part of the educational experience. These old fogies are so boring. There must be a better way to do this! Edutainment, No thanks. I Prefer

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-25 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 25 Feb 2006 at 20:01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 12:18:47 -0500 From: Paul Barrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] The multidimensional array modules in their various incarnations, Numeric, Numarray and Numpy - with the Numpy being the latest and hopeful last - are based on J's

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 26 Feb 2006 at 9:04, Arthur wrote: Really_ can any of those tools be used to program tacitly? That is without the need to use variables (with the help of forks, hooks and the like)? Expressed as someone in touch with esoteric knowledge. I am guessing it's a Logo thing. Are

Re: [Edu-sig] Textbooks

2006-02-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 26 Feb 2006 at 8:55, kirby urner wrote: I just wanted to verify the claim that some Python modules really incorporate J semantics. numpy incorporates the idea of 'rank' and 'axes' much the way J or other array based languages do i.e. you can shape numbers to have however many axes

Re: [Edu-sig] 3D Logo

2006-03-02 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 1 Mar 2006 at 21:12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mean with the -n switch? Why not just use some other language that's better at Turtles than Python? is my main question. If you're going to use Turtles as your primary pedagogy, I suggest Logo or some more sophisticated 3D turtle

[Edu-sig] PyLogo anyone?

2006-03-02 Thread Daniel Ajoy
I find strange that PyLogo hasn't been mention in this discussion: Daniel Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:16:56 -0600 From: Ian Bicking ianb at colorstudy.com Subject: ANN: PyLogo 0.1 PyLogo 0.1 == This is the first public release of the still rough (but I think functional) PyLogo

Re: [Edu-sig] Some thoughts on RurPle / TurTle

2006-06-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 27 Jun 2006 at 4:30, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I always viewed Logo as a means to introduce programming within Logo's environment ... but not really practical outside of this (unlike Python). I may have been prejudiced due to ignorance there. I don't think Papert is interested at

[Edu-sig] (Fwd) Re: Some thoughts on RurPle / TurTle

2006-06-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
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[Edu-sig] (Fwd) Re: Some thoughts on RurPle / TurTle

2006-06-27 Thread Daniel Ajoy
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[Edu-sig] rich data structure?

2006-07-06 Thread Daniel Ajoy
The natural resources of countries and some other entities http://www.xist.org/earth/ec_natres.aspx Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] Alan Kay - another one of his ideas

2006-07-12 Thread Daniel Ajoy
From: Ian Bicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Edu-sig] Alan Kay - another one of his ideas Using Logo Wiki as a way to encourage people to download a plugin would be a mistake IMHO. Putting all your code into a little dead box embedded on a web page is pretty lame, and it shows.

Re: [Edu-sig] Alan Kay - another one of his ideas

2006-07-12 Thread Daniel Ajoy
From: Ian Bicking [EMAIL PROTECTED] (There's even a Logo/Java plugin: http://turtletracks.sourceforge.net/) Not one, but many. Here is an unusual one (similar in concept to GvR?): http://tinyurl.com/p5xwr http://school.eb.com/lm/manipulatives/enu/workspaces/ ladybug_maze/workspace.html

Re: [Edu-sig] Alan Kay - another one of his ideas

2006-07-12 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Not one, but many. Here is an unusual one (similar in concept to GvR?): http://tinyurl.com/p5xwr It seems to be part of this: http://standards.nctm.org/document/eexamples/chap4/4.3/index.htm Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org

[Edu-sig] SuperSwiki2 Server Bootable ISO image

2006-07-17 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 22:20:07 +0900 From: Masashi UMEZAWA Subject: [Squeakland] [ANN] SuperSwiki2 Server Bootable ISO image To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I have created a special USB bootable version of SuperSwiki2 Server. Features: o SuperSwiki2 starts automatically after booting. o Other

[Edu-sig] (Fwd) S. Papert en SqueakFest '06

2006-07-31 Thread Daniel Ajoy
--- Forwarded message follows --- SqueakFest '06 July 19-21, 2006 Columbia College, Chicago Thursday, July 20th 9:00 Keynote Address: Dr. Seymour Papert * mp3 87MB * mp3 Small 21MB * Windows Media 174 MB

Re: [Edu-sig] Python and pre-Calculus

2006-09-09 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 8 Sep 2006 at 18:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kevin Driscoll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Edu-sig] Python and pre-Calculus I'm teaching Pre-Calculus for the first time this year and am hoping to integrate Python as often as possible. My syllabus is focused on exploring functions

[Edu-sig] The fate of raw-input() in Python 3000

2006-09-12 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 12 Sep 2006 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To cut to the chase: raw_input() provides an extremely useful I/O function for simple exercise type problems which are so essential in building a beginners repertoire of programming techniques and for 'John Zeller' type problems ( simple quick

Re: [Edu-sig] creating an interface vs. using one

2006-09-23 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 23 Sep 2006 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You CANNOT articulate OO on a TI. You can?t create a class. Most people don?t care, right now, because they don?t even know what that means, but I can guarantee you that there?s a bunch of scientists at places like CalTech who DO care!

Re: [Edu-sig] Getting psyched for Complex numbers

2006-09-27 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 27 Sep 2006 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Getting psyched for Quadratics and Complex numbers in October! Kevin This might give you an idea: http://mondragon.angeltowns.net/paradiso/NumerosComplejosAplicaciones.html Daniel ___ Edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] More CP4E News

2007-06-16 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2007 06:00:33 -0500 From: Jeff Rush [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've never seen programming books in the form of children's books -- can you point me at some for -other- programming languages? The Great Logo Adventure : Electronic copy of the actual book on learning Logo by Jim

Re: [Edu-sig] Rich Data Streams

2007-08-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 26 Aug 2007 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, excellent raw material with real world applications. E.g.: http://wiki.gleducar.org.ar/wiki/Nombres_Propios_de_Personas I used that dataset to decode an anagram. A person in a blog had said: I love [anagramedName]. I wanted to know

Re: [Edu-sig] Turtle Graphics

2007-12-24 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On 24 Dec 2007 at 12:00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So the distinction I was making was between original Logo syntax, which doesn't explicitly mention the turtle (because there's only one), In MicroWorlds Logo there are many turtles and the usual way to handle this is: talkto turtle1 repeat

Re: [Edu-sig] looking for references

2008-07-27 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Punished by rewards Here is another one: http://www.shearonforschools.com/gold_star_junkies.htm Gold Star Junkies By David Ruenzel Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

[Edu-sig] light-bot another one like Karel

2008-09-18 Thread Daniel Ajoy
In flash: http://www.gameroo.nl/games/light-bot Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] Rich Data Streams

2008-11-10 Thread Daniel Ajoy
ask prog: Where can I find lists of data in useful computer formats? ie. wordlist, world cities, populations, etc. http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/7civs/ask_prog_where_can_i_find_lists_of_data_in_useful/ Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list

Re: [Edu-sig] ACM Urges Obama to Include CS as Core Component of Science, Math Education

2008-12-25 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Thu, 25 Dec 2008 06:00:02 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: From: Edward Cherlin 2008/12/23 michel paul : http://www.acm.org/press-room/news-releases/obama-education Computing education benefits all students, not just those interested in pursuing computer science or information

[Edu-sig] Conway's Game Of Life in APL

2009-01-28 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9xAKttWgP4feature=channel_page Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

[Edu-sig] Why MIT switched from Scheme to Python

2009-03-24 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/link/2110/why-mit-switched-from-scheme-to-python Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] Why MIT switched from Scheme to Python

2009-03-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:30:08 -0500, Gregor Lingl gregor.li...@aon.at wrote: http://www.wisdomandwonder.com/link/2110/why-mit-switched-from-scheme-to-python Daniel Do you consider this to shed light on the nature and/or qualities of Python? Or of the MIT? Gregor both ;) Daniel

[Edu-sig] How do kids these days get started in programming?

2009-04-20 Thread Daniel Ajoy
How do kids these days get started in programming? http://www.ensode.net/roller/dheffelfinger/entry/how_do_kids_these_days Many experiences there mention that now kids start programming by playing with their calculators. Others speculate that kids start programming by inspecting HTML and

Re: [Edu-sig] Considering Python for an algebra course

2009-05-12 Thread Daniel Ajoy
From: Maria Droujkova Geogebra was created specifically for the type of projects I want to run. It is easy enough to start, for kids. I find its specialization to be a limiting factor, though - it would be nice if kids saw the environment's potential beyond math. With Python, I have

Re: [Edu-sig] Pythonic Math must include...

2009-05-24 Thread Daniel Ajoy
I've some other candidates that I have included in my Logo Functional Extensions (LogoFE). * A function that receives a math function and plots it. * A function that receives a math equation and an interval and finds a root in that interval * A function that receives a math function and an

[Edu-sig] Teacher looking for software for displaying 3D vectors and planes

2009-06-11 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/8riul/teacher_looking_for_software_for_displaying_3d/ Hi, I have spent a good few hours on a fruitless search for something that will help my students understand 3D vectors better. What I'm teaching is basically stuff like this: The equation of a line in

[Edu-sig] Do Programmers Optimize... Life?

2009-06-22 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.cforcoding.com/2009/06/do-programmers-optimize-life.html the age-old chicken-and-egg question of: do people become programmers because they have the right mindset or do they develop that mindset as a consequence of becoming computer programmers? Rich said... The problem with being

[Edu-sig] spirals and prime numbers, python

2009-06-25 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~jhw/spirals/index.html Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

[Edu-sig] nice post about teaching functional programming to kids

2009-07-23 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://jackcoughonsoftware.blogspot.com/2009/05/teaching-functional-programming-to-kids.html What happens if we put one machine into the slot of another machine? That's silly, Daddy! Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org

Re: [Edu-sig] turtle in education

2009-07-23 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Thu, 23 Jul 2009 05:00:02 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: hello, i am looking for materials, experiences etc. about using turtle module in math, physics and related for middle or high school students i realized a lot of work is going on but is there any place where all or part

[Edu-sig] PythonTurtle

2009-08-03 Thread Daniel Ajoy
PythonTurtle A learning environment for Python suitable for beginners and children, inspired by Logo. PythonTurtle strives to provide the lowest-threshold way to learn Python. Students command an interactive Python shell (similar to the IDLE development environment) and use Python

Re: [Edu-sig] teaching python using turtle module

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel Ajoy
An example of using IF in a game with Logo: http://davidlongman.com/logo/projects/Shoot/docs/pdf/SHOOT.PDF Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] teaching python using turtle module

2009-12-01 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 06:00:01 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: After a bit of playing, I realized that I couldn't think of many examples which use turtle with conditional structures (if- and while- statements), or functions that return values Many of these need the values of

Re: [Edu-sig] some turtle questions

2010-01-27 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Mon, 25 Jan 2010 06:00:01 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: I'm almost sure that there's no way for a turtle to know anything about the background. That's an unfortunate limitation! In FMSLogo: PIXEL Description Outputs a three element list of numbers that represent the red,

[Edu-sig] It IS about the technology: mathematics has computational objects

2010-02-02 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://republicofmath.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/it-is-about-the-technology-mathematics-has-computational-objects/ Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

[Edu-sig] Did you feel learning to program with turtle graphics was useful?

2010-03-26 Thread Daniel Ajoy
stackoverflow discussion: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/346061/did-you-feel-learning-to-program-with-turtle-graphics-was-useful Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] using Python as a calculator

2010-04-10 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:23:23 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: I humbly disagree that this is the right place to start. I teach students with diverse backgrounds -- some extremely bright and others really behind in school and using Python as a calculator is one thing they would all

Re: [Edu-sig] Why Python?

2010-04-11 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:51:16 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: Likewise, an introductory computer language should be close to self-explanatory. ?It will be difficult to get math and science teachers to accept it, if they have to make extra efforts explaining the notation. ?Getting math

[Edu-sig] Python Spirograph

2010-04-19 Thread Daniel Ajoy
From: Phil Wagner philhwag...@gmail.com Wrote this code after I was inspired by this webpage http://www.math.com/students/wonders/spirographs.html. Had some initial difficulties with memory but I discovered Psyco while reading Dreaming in Code (recommended by this community). It can speed

Re: [Edu-sig] modules versus programs

2010-04-20 Thread Daniel Ajoy
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:00:03 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: Apropos: http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-list/2006-July/1031208.html Static data that doesn't need updating a lot might be easiest. I was recently suggesting the Periodic Table would make a good module.

[Edu-sig] fmslogo turtle question

2010-06-09 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Can anybody give me some help? I am trying to set the heading towards a point that is relative to the current position. This isn't working: setheading towards [xcor+30 ycor+20] It says, towards doesn't like [xcor+30 ycor+20] as input I tried defining two values to use

Re: [Edu-sig] news views

2010-06-11 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 23:56:58 -0700 From: kirby urner kirby.ur...@gmail.com Regarding Logo, there's an esoteric genre of Logo where the turtle swims in a 3D tank, has roll, pitch and yaw type parameters, more like a small airplane. I'm pretty sure we had open source free versions.

[Edu-sig] Directed Graphs data to analyze the World Cup

2010-07-14 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.maths.qmul.ac.uk/~ht/footballgraphs/index.html Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] python fun geometry

2010-09-17 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Now, i have a geometric question about what the authors write: in sec 1.1.2 they say that the following logo code: TO ARCR R DEG REPEAT DEG FORWARD R RIGHT 1 produce a circular arc as output, having DEG degrees and R radius; and that it's

[Edu-sig] The role of programming (30 min lecture)

2011-05-19 Thread Daniel Ajoy
The role of programming http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2726904509434151616# tl;dr: because math notation is impressionistic, not precise. Also, has to reference to Mindstorms at the end. Daniel ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org

[Edu-sig] Seven ways to use Python's new turtle module

2012-10-09 Thread Daniel Ajoy
Seven ways to use Python's new turtle module, presented at PyCon 2009 http://lockerz.com/u/21205615/decalz/13082004/seven_ways_to_use_python_s_new_turtle_mo ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

Re: [Edu-sig] Edu-sig Digest, Vol 113, Issue 14

2012-12-28 Thread Daniel Ajoy
+1 On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 06:00:01 -0500, edu-sig-requ...@python.org wrote: Once again, can someone please unsubscribe this twit? ___ Edu-sig mailing list Edu-sig@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/edu-sig

[Edu-sig] lessons in computational thinking

2013-08-17 Thread Daniel Ajoy
http://www.google.com/edu/computational-thinking/lessons.html These lessons were developed by The Integrating Computational and Creative Thinking (IC2Think) Project at the University of Nebraska in Lincoln, NE. The IC2Think project is supported by the National Science Foundation under project

[Edu-sig] Talk by Seymour Papert Robin Jettinghoff

2014-04-25 Thread Daniel Ajoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4iIqLc0sjjs (1h 16m) On April 28, 2004, Seymour Papert and Robin Jettinghoff gave a presentation at the University of Maine on some materials that they prepared for helping students understand mathematics. (Published on Jul 1, 2012)