Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Jan Erik Holm
Not on my K3 (1594) using internal keyer and FW 02.34 Exactly same in QSK, semi BK or PTT. 73 gl Jim SM2EKM Bill W5WVO wrote: By George, you're right! No, I never noticed it, but now that you point it out and I'm testing it -- sure enough. The difference is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread GW0ETF
Barry Simpson wrote: Has anyone else noticed that there is a substantial difference in the mark space ratio of the keying dependent on whether you operate QSK/semi break in compared with manual transmit, eg push the transmit button on the front panel or use a foot switch to enter

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread DH2SE
Hi Simon and Julian, thank you for your support. I'd also appreciate that if such a signal would come out of the K3. Others (IC-7700 et al.) support that too, sometimes via USB or ethernet. I'm not happy to digitalize the analog line out audio signal external into a PCM stream by using e.g. a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread Julian, G4ILO
DH2SE wrote: Hi Simon and Julian, thank you for your support. I'd also appreciate that if such a signal would come out of the K3. Others (IC-7700 et al.) support that too, sometimes via USB or ethernet. I'm not happy to digitalize the analog line out audio signal external into a PCM

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread David Cutter
Somebody said they didn't care what the stream was, it could be dealt with externally, so, could we tap off the relevant signal, thro an off-board buffer and take it to a new socket on the back? David G3UNA - Original Message - From: Julian, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] To:

[Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Hi, this weekend is our SSB Fieldday: Saturday 13UTC to 13UTC Sunday. Please listen for /p stations from region 1 this weekend. The DL rules (in English): http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedcfr.htm vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread DH2SE
Julian, I have the same problem using the K3 wireless around the house e.g. while sitting in the garden. But I need also the possibility to use the K3 from far away. Bluetooth is suitable if you use a Jabra A-210 Module for the audio transmission directly to a headset and a second Bluetooth

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread GW0ETF
Toby Deinhardt wrote: Hi, this weekend is our SSB Fieldday: Saturday 13UTC to 13UTC Sunday. Please listen for /p stations from region 1 this weekend. The DL rules (in English): http://www.darc.de/referate/dx/xedcfr.htm vy 73 de toby GW4TTA/p will (weather permitting!) be

[Elecraft] [K3] Dimensions with Bail Extended

2008-09-05 Thread list1
Hi All, I need the height for the K3 _with the bail extended_. I am building new shelving for my operating table in anticipation of receiving mine (someday) ;o). Steve, W2MY ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a

Re: [Elecraft] K2 RTTY

2008-09-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Logan, What you say is true and quite workable *except* for the times when there is a strong undesired signal inside the IF passband. That strong signal takes over the AGC and reduces the receive gain causing all signals (including your desired signal) to become weaker. The solution is to

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread Stewart Baker
If the rain doesn't stop soon we will be signing G3MDG/MM ! 73 Stewart G3RXQ Chesham District ARS On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 04:49:35 -0700 (PDT), GW0ETF wrote: Toby Deinhardt wrote: Hi, this weekend is our SSB Fieldday: Saturday 13UTC to 13UTC Sunday. Please listen for /p stations from region

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Dimensions with Bail Extended

2008-09-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Steve, Mine measures 6 3/8 inches to the uppermost part of the panel with the bail extended. If you allow 6 1/2 inches or more from the desktop to the first shelf you should be able to slide the K3 completely under the shelf. 73, Don W3FPR list1 wrote: Hi All, I need the height for the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread Julian, G4ILO
DH2SE wrote: Julian, I have the same problem using the K3 wireless around the house e.g. while sitting in the garden. But I need also the possibility to use the K3 from far away. Bluetooth is suitable if you use a Jabra A-210 Module for the audio transmission directly to a headset and a

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread Julian, G4ILO
David Cutter wrote: Somebody said they didn't care what the stream was, it could be dealt with externally, so, could we tap off the relevant signal, thro an off-board buffer and take it to a new socket on the back? We don't care about the sample rate or bit depth too much, but the

[Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread Larry Phipps
This discussion reminds me of some of the design choices I had to make when designing LP-PAN last year. I wound up using the SP-70 MILSPEC xfmrs, each driven by a pair of op-amps in a push pull configuration with zero ohm source. My original goal was to reduce 2nd harmonic distortion and

Re: [Elecraft] Switching Supplies

2008-09-05 Thread Bill Coleman
On Jul 8, 2008, at 8:40 AM, Jan Erik Holm wrote: Mike Penkas wrote: I have 2 SEC1223's and no hash. I also have an Astron RS35 and RS50 linear supplies. Sometimes the magnetic hum from them drives me crazy. The little cork pads Astron puts in them to alleviate this does not help much. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 02:48:08 -0700 (PDT), DH2SE wrote: I'm not happy to digitalize the analog line out audio signal external into a PCM stream by using e.g. a microcontroller because of the additional signal propagation delay of the ADC conversion. I don't understand your concerns. I work in pro

[Elecraft] Re: K3: using data modes with MixW

2008-09-05 Thread Tom Whiteside
Thanks for the helpful comments.I am now up and running using a mode change from SSB to data mode. In my application, both voice and data are SSB so no mode change was necessary.The specific trick was in MixW under the view menu, select spectrum and then check the box that says: RF,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Digital audio out ?

2008-09-05 Thread Bill NY9H
isn't cheap but good audio a serial port , too bad I don't know how to program a remote front end for the k3,, Hell Simon.. http://www.barix.com/index.php?linkid=421 I believe you can use it at one end and another OR a cpu at the other end bill At 08:17 AM

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread David Pratt
Fine, but please be so good as to comply with the Region 1 Bandplan. All too often these SSB contest spread LF into the CW section of the bands making it impossible for QRP CW stations to work. 73 thanks David G4DMP In a recent message, ON4WIX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote ... If you hear

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread ON4WIX
If you hear ON4NOK/p, give us a yell. My K3 will be floating around on our club's FD site, hi 73 es GL Glenn ON4WIX - Original Message - From: Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: GW0ETF [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 2:51 PM Subject: Re:

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread ON4WIX
Hi David, we always make sure to stay away at least 3kHz from the relevant segment edges (depending on USB/LSB) and each year we make sure the frequency ranges that can be used for contest style operations (e.g. 80m: 3600-3650 and 3700-3800 (ONLY DX 3775-3800)) are clearly listed in our FD

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread Stewart Baker
Hi Glenn, We have taken the precaution of putting the Region 1 Bandplan on a laminated sheet. Our supplier has said that it should still work at a depth of 10m 73 Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:56:40 +0200, ON4WIX wrote: Hi David, we always make sure to stay away at least 3kHz from

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread P.B. Christensen
As near as I can see from tracing from one sheet to another, U29, a TLV320ACC23 DAC with integrated headphone amplifier drives the TTC-108 LIN OUT transformers directly. Headphone and speaker audio, in contrast, are derived from a second TLV320 DAC driving a LM4950 amplifier for speaker

[Elecraft] K3 s/n 1527

2008-09-05 Thread Horst
Hallo elecraft, tnx for a very nice radio. Special tnx to Walter DK8KV for his background-information to the K3 transceiver. K3/10 S/N 1527 KLF3A-1,8k KLF3A-500 KXV3 Proset-K2 Ordered 2008 Apr 14 Arrival in DL 2008 Aug 26 Ready 2008 Aug 29

[Elecraft] K3 and Noise Reduction

2008-09-05 Thread Tom Wylie
Is it possible to get noise reduction working when in Data mode like RTTY? Tom GM4FDM -- So I met the bloke who invented crosswords today. I can't remember his name, it's P something T something R. --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 080905-0, 05/09/2008

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread David Cutter
I would be interested to know why folks use external keyers in preference to the internal keyer. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub,

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread David Cutter
QRG = QRglug David G3UNA - Original Message - From: Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ON4WIX [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend Hi Glenn, We have taken the precaution

Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Noise Reduction

2008-09-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
Tom Wylie wrote: Is it possible to get noise reduction working when in Data mode like RTTY? No, this is intentionally restricted. Using noise reduction on a data signal can introduce distortion to the signal. The demodulator,if properly designed, will be matched to the expected signal

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
...I believe the device listed as U29 on the K3 schematic may be a mis-print and my best guess is that's it's the Texas Instruments TLV320AIC23 -- as is the case with U7. The schematic is correct, U29 is a TLV320DAC23. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Alexandr Kobranov
Hi David, in my case I am using external keyer (ETM-8) having - more memories - better programming possibilities (loops, nested loops, programable changes of speed in message, incremental numbering,...) - no need to touch FP for memory start/stop (keyer has own paddle so paddle and buttons

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread Paul Christensen
Hmmmmy schematic shows TLV320ACC23 for U29. Paul, W9AC - Original Message - From: Lyle Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: P.B. Christensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 1:22 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion ...I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Brendan Minish
on Fri, 2008-09-05 at 18:11 +0100, David Cutter wrote: I would be interested to know why folks use external keyers in preference to the internal keyer. I use a logikey K5 keyer reasons 1/ more memories in 3 banks (6 in each bank, 3 banks in total ) 2/ user definable speed range, keying

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread Lyle Johnson
Paul Christensen wrote: Hmmmmy schematic shows TLV320ACC23 for U29. I see that, too. The D is missing. Lyle ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr.

[Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread ni0c
David, G3UNA, wrote: I would be interested to know why folks use external keyers in preference to the internal keyer. I use the microHam CW keyer with my K2 and K3 for a couple of reasons. The two logging programs that I use (DXBase 2007, and N1MM) work nicely with the K1EL WinKey chip in

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread David Cutter
Would it still work for you if you used your paddle directly into the K3 paddle input and pc into the key input, then the programs would still key directly? I'm wondering if you would want to change the PTT, lead-in and tail features on the fly, ie could these all be programmed in config?

[Elecraft] K3; #536 is compete and well

2008-09-05 Thread Hans H Vollmer
For the trackers: Today the KRX3 and the FM-filters arrived. Ordered on July 18 2007. The completion worked without any problems. 73 de Hans, DF5SR ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Tom Hammond
Hi David: 1) More versatile CW generation features 2) More memories (in memory-type keyers) 3) More versatile CW memories (often) 4) Greater range of control These are my main reasons for using my Idiom Press CMOS Super Keyer (II/III/or IV) in deference to the K3's internal keyer. Cheers, Tom

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Roger Marrotte
I use a Logikey K-3 external keyer because I find that it is just a little bit different than the internal keyer. I'm used to it and seem to make less mistakes with it so that't what I use. On the other hand when I had a K2 I found that the internal keyer was not nearly as good (for me) as the

[Elecraft] K-3 back from repair

2008-09-05 Thread waltk8cv4612amos
Works like new! Thanks GARY! 6 days in Gary's shop! Good service! Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.):

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread GW0ETF
David Cutter wrote: Would it still work for you if you used your paddle directly into the K3 paddle input and pc into the key input, then the programs would still key directly? I'm wondering if you would want to change the PTT, lead-in and tail features on the fly, ie could these all

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Richard Ferch
G3UNA asked: Would it still work for you if you used your paddle directly into the K3 paddle input and pc into the key input, then the programs would still key directly? I'm wondering if you would want to change the PTT, lead-in and tail features on the fly, ie could these all be

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Tom N0SS wrote: 1) More versatile CW generation features 2) More memories (in memory-type keyers) 3) More versatile CW memories (often) 4) Greater range of control --- Gee, those are all the reasons I use a manual key (bug or hand pump). The only time my logging

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Craig D. Smith
The internal K3 keyer works fine, but I also prefer external keyer(s) for various reasons. I have both a WinKey USB and a LogiKey K-5 wired in parallel to the K3 key input. Most of my operating is CW contesting, and the WinKey generates great CW from the N1MM logging program. I have the

[Elecraft] KRX3 and No Signals in Headset

2008-09-05 Thread k1tl
Finally got the KRX3 up and running after Wayne and Gary suggested I look at the 27 ohm resistor I soldered over R91...boy, am I red faced on this one as one leg had a cold solder joint on it. Guess didn't let the pad get warm enough to tack the leg down on the PC via. That solved the ER PL1

Re: [Elecraft] IARU Region 1 SSB Fieldday this weekend

2008-09-05 Thread Jukka Tarvainen
OH4AB/p will be on the air with one K2/100 and other brands. 10-160 meters. 73 CU Jukka OH4MFA and team ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread ni0c
I think your suggestion would work if I tied the two PTT ouputs (one from K3 and other from the microHam CW keyer) together, isolating them with diodes. Another option would be to have a second set of paddles connected to the K3, for barefoot operation of the K3. I don't see any advantages to

[Elecraft] K3 #1140 For Sale on ebay

2008-09-05 Thread Jacob
Greetings all! I am selling my K3 #1140 on ebay. I love the radio but just don't use it enough. It was a kit, which I assembled and comes with the 100W option, ATU, 2.7KHz and 500Hz filters and the Elecraft MH2 hand microphone. Please see the auciton link below for futher information.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 #1140 For Sale on ebay

2008-09-05 Thread ab2tc
Hi, Just out of curiosity; do you have another radio that you prefer or are you simply not using any radio very much? None of my business, I know, but I am curious none the less. Knut - AB2TC Jacob wrote: Greetings all! I am selling my K3 #1140 on ebay. I love the radio but just don't

[Elecraft] KRX3 Success

2008-09-05 Thread k1tl
I found out why I was not hearing any signals on the KRX3...when I first setup the KRX3 filters, I installed it in slot 1 and then changed it to slot 2. I configured slot 2 but forgot to disable slot 1...duh ! ! ! W1EM suggested I go to the K3 Utility program and see all the filters and that is

[Elecraft] k-3 # 1556

2008-09-05 Thread gdaught6
First, thanks to those who offerred help with my K-3 with KPA-3 not wanting to put out more that 12W. I don't really know what the problem was, but I know it definitely was the nut on the control. I reconfigured a couple of times, and now it works wonderfully well! Second, I hooked it up to

RE: [Elecraft] KRX3 Success

2008-09-05 Thread Dick Dievendorff
Thanks for the nice note! The most recent editions of the owner's manual has a bold-face note that says The K3 Utility software application can also be used to view or change crystal filter settings; click on Configuration tab / Edit Crystal Filters. Don't feel like a dunce, please! I found

[Elecraft] K3 TAPE ON DISPLAY

2008-09-05 Thread k4pi
When assembling SN 1542 I never saw anything about removing the clear tape over the display. Anyone know of any problem there might be with leaving it attached to the display? I cannot see it now but possibly it might discolor with age. 73 Mike K4PI

Re: RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Fred Jensen
Craig D. Smith wrote: The internal K3 keyer works fine, but I also prefer external keyer(s) for various reasons. OK, the other side weighs in. Several years ago, I built a K1EL keyer [don't remember the model and not sure where the book is right now]. I included an interface to key the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 TAPE ON DISPLAY

2008-09-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Mike, It sounds like you could be a good test candidate. It is no more trouble to disassemble and remove it now than it will be later - why don't you see what happens over time and remove it if and when it becomes a problem. I do recall seeing something about a film being removed at Aptos

[Elecraft] K3 - Rtty Inverted with Mixw

2008-09-05 Thread K5DNL
Hello All, The RTTY signal is inverted , I can copy ok if I Invert rtty on Mixw. Has anyone else had this problum ??? Ken K5DNL -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3---Rtty-Inverted-with-Mixw-tp842394p842394.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 #1140 For Sale on ebay

2008-09-05 Thread Jacob
I do have another radio that I use portable but it's not in the same league as the K3 :) It's only being sold because it's not getting any use. Jacob ab2tc wrote: Hi, Just out of curiosity; do you have another radio that you prefer or are you simply not using any radio very much? None

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread Dick Green WC1M
I got in the habit of using an external keyer before most rigs had internal keyers. As others have mentioned, external keyers are more flexible and quicker to set than internal keyers, so I continued to use an external keyer. When I first got into contesting in a serious way, I found that

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread Rich
I am not an audiologist (?) but isn't a harmonic that is 45db below the fundamental tone essentially non-detectable to normal hearing? Kind of why the harmonics of a RF carrier are to be 40dbs down. Rich -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Rtty Inverted with Mixw

2008-09-05 Thread Rich
I also had to reverse the setup in MixW2 from the setup I had established for the K2. I set MixW2 to use RTTYR in the Cat interface configuration window for the K3 and all appears correct - did not for the K2. I (think) assume it has to do with the difference in the RTTY and DATA mode between

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Harmonic Distortion

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 5 Sep 2008 17:51:42 -0700 (PDT), Rich wrote: I am not an audiologist (?) but isn't a harmonic that is 45db below the fundamental tone essentially non-detectable to normal hearing? It depends on the order of the harmonic. There are studio processors that INTENTIONALLY generate 2nd

[Elecraft] Harmonic Distortion and Audio Intermodulation in K3's LIN OUT Port

2008-09-05 Thread Jack Smith
I've completed a series of detailed measurements trying to understand why my K3's LIN OUT port exhibits greater distortion and anomalies than found in the headphone and speaker ports. Details are at http://www.cliftonlaboratories.com/elecraft_k3_receive_audio.htm What I found is that the

RE: [Elecraft] K3 Keying

2008-09-05 Thread W7TEA
I've been thinking about hooking my K-3 keyer up too. I'm assuming none of the internal keyer controls work of course but wish/hope the NEW QSK default (reduces keying artifacts...) might still be effective. As it relates to the speed of muting/unmuting the rx, it seems possible. Gary W7TEA

RE: [Elecraft] K3 TAPE ON DISPLAY

2008-09-05 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Unlike the K2, the LCD is pre-mounted on the front panel board and ready for mounting in the front panel assembly as described in the kit assembly manual. The last front panel board I received in the bag as it would be packaged in a kit was late last year. It had no tape on the display. Ron

Re: [Elecraft] Harmonic Distortion and Audio Intermodulation in K3's LIN OUT Port

2008-09-05 Thread Jim Brown
On Fri, 05 Sep 2008 21:22:33 -0400, Jack Smith wrote: What I found is that the 604 ohm resistor between U29's output amplifier stage and the TTC-108 transformer primary winding forces the TTC-108 isolation transformer to operate in a regime where the performance improving effects of a zero ohm