Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mush ... or blur

2011-12-06 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Not to argue but to move toward clarity... Low level signals are by definition closer to the noise. That would also mean that there would be more stuff between CW bauds. Crisp to some means that the artifacts which define the beginning and the ends of a baud are there. The extreme artifact is a

[Elecraft] Low Power on 160

2011-12-06 Thread Phil Theis
All bands produce full power except 160 meters. K3 (352) into a Bird dummy load When I tap TUNE the power is 7 watts. When I increase the power knob the reading indicates increase in power, but no actual power increase, then after a second the reading returns to 7 watts. I hope there is

[Elecraft] K3 - PSK D Split Problem?

2011-12-06 Thread Ralph K1ZZI
Using PSK D today for the first time ever, I was not able to get split to work. After setting both VFO's to PSK, then pushing split resulted in SPL N/A message? CW, SSB and RTTY always work perfect so I'm wondering what I'm doing wrong with PSK? Is split invalid for PSK? Thanks. Ralph

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK D Split Problem?

2011-12-06 Thread John Ragle
This is a show-stopper of a question. I have been running PSK for a number of years, and have never observed anyone running split. With an exceedingly narrow-band mode such as PSK31, it should not be necessary, although occasionally someone will drop down right on top of your offset, either

[Elecraft] Low Power on 160

2011-12-06 Thread Giancarlo Moda
Hi Phil, I believe you have the 10W K3. While testing the replacement of 1st mixer on main RX with a 2T H-Mode Mixer on a K3, following the TX calibration routine, all positive from 1.8 to 50MHz, on the 100W PA, (5W and 50W routine) while testing each band on a dummy load at full power, we

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 internal battery pack change

2011-12-06 Thread Benson
Hurray! I like this decision. NE4W So we're going to include the battery holders in the basic KX3. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Mush ... or blur

2011-12-06 Thread Dick Green WC1M
Awesome, Guy. I think your test will answer the questions I have about this problem. Please post the results of your test with a different title than above so we don't have to comb through a lot of posts to find it. 73, Dick WC1M -Original Message- From: Guy Olinger K2AV

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK D Split Problem?

2011-12-06 Thread Tony Estep
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 12:03 PM, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: ...I have been running PSK for a number of years, and have never observed anyone running split... === It can happen. There was an H40 who operated split PSK earlier this year. I didn't work him, but I did work

Re: [Elecraft] ECN-CW

2011-12-06 Thread B Hunt
Being on the west coast I'm not sure I'll be able to do you much good but I'll try. I sometimes hear stations that Kevin doesn't particularly in the QRN season. At the time of the 40m ECN the band is a little short for the east coast from here but I usually hear K1THP a few dB above the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - PSK D Split Problem?

2011-12-06 Thread John Ragle
I agree it is not difficult. I outlined a couple of QD ways of doing this for K1ZZI. John Ragle -- W1ZI = On 12/6/2011 3:03 PM, Tony Estep wrote: It's easy to work split with PSK if you use AFSK. 73, Tony KT0NY __ Elecraft

[Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Alan Komenski
Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3 (visible marker line) a good idea? 73 Alan - AC2K Redmond, WA F.O.C #1851 F.I.S.T.S. #8063 A1 Ops CWOps #35 __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

[Elecraft] K3 - issue after upgrade to latest versions of firmware.

2011-12-06 Thread LA8AW
Last night I upgraded my K3 to MCU 4.47/DSP 2.73 and everything looked fine. AGC stayed on when running HRD. Today I notice that my P3 locks up (display freezes) when the rig has been idle for a period of time. Has happend 7-8 times tonight. The P3 has firmware 1.09. Turning the rig off/on - and

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Gary VK4FD
Not for me..and for various reasons...:-) Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 Living the dream!!! - Original Message - From: Alan Komenski To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2011 8:29 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Band

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread David Gilbert
If a visible marker line is good enough for the P3 why isn't the frequency display on the K3 sufficient? Also ... they would have to take into account all the various license classes to be of any use. 73, Dave AB7E On 12/6/2011 3:29 PM, Alan Komenski wrote: Anyone else think having band

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Ken G Kopp
Hi Alan, I have a blind friend who might find band edge beeps useful, but he uses a voice announcement feature built into his radio when he needs to know where he's tuned to. Otherwise, I can't see an application for band edge beeps or visual markers. It's hard to visualize one tuning around a

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Lou Kolb
I wouldn't consider not having them a deal breaker but, as an op who is blind I would certainly find them useful. I find the ascending and descending tones that indicate whether a function is on or off absolutely essential to every-day operation. lou, WA3MIX Lou kolb Voice-over Artist:

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 2:55 PM, David Gilbert xda...@cis-broadband.com wrote: If a visible marker line is good enough for the P3 why isn't the frequency display on the K3 sufficient? That's kindof an odd question, IMO a line is a line - it's visually obvious when you're going to cross it.

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
I don't think it's that hard to visualise, when the bands are relatively dead. I have found myself lazily spinning the VFO knob, whilst watching something else (maybe reading email;), and then looked at the rig to find myself way outside the band that I started in! ~iain / N6ML On Tue, Dec

[Elecraft] Another P3 freezes

2011-12-06 Thread Gary, W7TEA
On several occasions, I have left the K3/P3 on for a few hours to return to a P3 screen which has frozen. Toggling P3 power on and off resolved it. Then today, the FixTrack mode froze under the same circumstances. I always use Fixed-Tune mode but it became stuck in Tracking mode. Attempting to

Re: [Elecraft] Another P3 freezes

2011-12-06 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I have same versions... no issues. Perhaps resending the firmware to the P3 will fix the issue. Once in a while data transfers via rs232 can get corrupted for one of many reasons. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Tom Azlin N4ZPT
No, would turn them off if they were there. 73, tom n4zpt On 12/6/2011 5:29 PM, Alan Komenski AC2K wrote: Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3 (visible marker line) a good idea? __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Fred Jensen
On 12/6/2011 2:29 PM, Alan Komenski wrote: Anyone else think having band edge markers for the K3 (tone) and for the P3 (visible marker line) a good idea? Enough beeps in the phones and markers on the screen now. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party

[Elecraft] K3 - Erratic FP switches

2011-12-06 Thread Fred Jensen
I'm noticing that many of my front panel switches are sometimes erratic. A TAP of MODE UP/DWN will sound a beep but not change the mode. Sometimes it seems like an intended HOLD becomes a TAP. The K3 is pretty light as radios like it go ... OK, *really* light compared to some well lighted

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic FP switches

2011-12-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
If it beeps, the switch is working. Something else is going on. 73, Eric www.elecraft.com On 12/6/2011 3:53 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I'm noticing that many of my front panel switches are sometimes erratic. A TAP of MODE UP/DWN will sound a beep but not change the mode. Sometimes it seems

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Erratic FP switches

2011-12-06 Thread Dave LaBat
Mine did the same with a bank of switches on the front panel refusing to work. Now they do...I don't know what Murphy was thinking but they all started to work right BEFORE CQWW phone and they worked the entire contest, have not seen the issue again! I was ready to send it in for some updates and

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread David Gilbert
I don't think it's an odd question at all. I find it visually obvious when the frequency readout shows me I'm out of band. I don't see the difference between a cursor approaching a preset line versus the frequency display approach I number I know to be the band limit. Can you explain the

[Elecraft] Upcoming QRP ARCI Holiday Spirits Home Brew Sprint

2011-12-06 Thread Jim Rodenkirch
We had a successful Top Band Spring, in terms of participation, this past Thursday, 1 December, and now looking forward to a relaxed contest/event...the Holiday Spirits Homebrew Sprint! It's a four hour contest for home constructors and kit builders and runs from 2000Z to 2359Z on Sunday

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread N4KH
Yes I think band edge markers (tones) on the K3 are a good idea. Why not have them as an audible reinforcement that you've crossed the band edge? Those who don't want them should be able to turn them off. Their absence was one of the first things I noticed since I was used to them being there on

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Gary VK4FD
I believe we have enough 'features' on all radios manufactured today and we have legal obligations to stay within the bands pertaining to the various licences etc. If you do the MARS mod...where do you want the band edges to be?seems like your outside the 'normal' band usage so the

[Elecraft] Just thinking

2011-12-06 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr
Howdy Gang: While surfing the Elecraft webpage I watched some of the videos about the new KX3 and got to wondering (in between drooling---grin). Could the KX3 architecture (SDR with knobs/front panel) be a precursor of things to come in the form of a full-size K4??? OK, like I said, just

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers [END of Thread]

2011-12-06 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
This was a topic some time back on the list. Band edges vary enough on a regional/country and license class basis that its impractical for us to do it at this time. We're very busy on several other areas at the moment too :-) No need to argue pro-con on the list. Let's table the discussion

Re: [Elecraft] Band edge markers

2011-12-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I would not use them and would be disappointed if they couldn't be turned off. If the purpose is to avoid transmitting on an illegal frequency, keep in mind that the band edges are different for different classes of US licenses, still different for other countries and still different for

Re: [Elecraft] Just thinking

2011-12-06 Thread Benson
I was under the impression that the K3 is already what you are describing. NE4W On 12/6/2011 7:50 PM, Joseph Trombino, Jr wrote: Could the KX3 architecture (SDR with knobs/front panel) be a precursor of things to come in the form of a full-size K4???

Re: [Elecraft] Just thinking

2011-12-06 Thread Joseph Trombino, Jr
Howdy Gang: Perhaps I should have made my previous comment regarding the KX3 and my daydream K4 a bit clearer. I should have been more specific in terms of the QSD (quadrature sampling detector) architecture of the KX3 as related to my day dream K4. While the K3 is controlled via firmware

Re: [Elecraft] Just thinking

2011-12-06 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
I agree, Joe. The direct conversion (RF to baseband) architecture has been around since the earliest days of radio for a reason. The superheterodyne format using intermediate frequencies offered selectivity that wasn't available in the past but at a cost: spurious responses and very sensitive gain

Re: [Elecraft] Just thinking

2011-12-06 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
But modern techniques now provide the selectivity needed without the superheterodyne format with all of its issues. The quadrature sampling detector is one of those. The quadrature sampling detector is a large step backward from the current IF sampling in the K3. I have always felt QSD as

[Elecraft] KX3 Mic Connector

2011-12-06 Thread Eugene Balinski
All, Any ideas if receive audio will be available on the KX3 mic connector so one could use a speaker-microphone or possibly an adapted handset ? 73 de K1NR - Web mail provided by NuNet, Inc. The Premier National provider.

Re: [Elecraft] Just thinking

2011-12-06 Thread lyle johnson
Superhets also allowed the considerable receive path gain needed to not be all at signal (RF) or AF. Also, the KX3, while using quadrature techniques, definitely does NOT use a sampling detector. 73, Lyle KK7P/7 (Tucson AZ) __

Re: [Elecraft] K3 - issue after upgrade to latest versions of firmware.

2011-12-06 Thread LA8AW
Left my K3/P3 with ver MCU 4.42 running over the night - no freeze on the P3. Obvious my K3/P3 don't like the v. 4.47 :-( _ 73 de LA8AW - Odd-Egil _ On Tue, Dec 6, 2011 at 23:31, LA8AW odd...@gmail.com wrote: Last night I upgraded my K3 to MCU