I might have to re-evaluate. For casual split chasing the P3 can still be
awesome. And the P3 is just so cool for general use. If I were funds limited
I would definitely buy a P3 and save up for the sub RX. Having both is the
greatest thing since sliced bread.
73,
Mike K2MK
ae4pb wrote
I like
I purchased this setup in July 2015. I am the original owner. Includes KX3-F,
KXBC3-F, KXFL3-F, KX3-PCKT, KXPA100-AT-F, KXPACBL, KXSER-a, MH3, PX3-F and
KXPD3 key for KX3. This is my second KX3 setup and I now know without a
doubt that I prefer the K3 larger radio. I have not opened the KX3;never
I think some folks may have forgotten that a subreceiver is not required to
locate a DX station's listening frequency in a split pileup. Before second
receivers were available we all did what we had to do . we quickly switched
between VFOs and tuned the listening range . and it worked . not all
Standard use of connectors is a good thing. It saves the various number
of different connectors that we must retain for various uses. However,
there is no standards in the ham radio community regarding the use and
types of connectors.
In the military, they use a different connector for
Regrettably, the JAs are catching up to the EUs, but generally true.
As to the original question, I use neither, but do have the near equivalent of
the P3. an SDR-IQ used as a panadapter. Although this could be used as a second
RX, I have enough difficulty listening to one RX, I don't need to
Well, yes. But a major design consideration used to be, available at Radio
Shack.
73,
Bob
K2TK
On 8/23/2015 11:28 AM, ae...@carolinaheli.com wrote:
SNIPPED:
If you were homebrewing the radio how would you build it? I'm betting that
most of us would use single connectors and bundle the
The following app nite from Elecraft describes a great way to calibrate the
dial on your K2:http://www.elecraft.com/Apps/K2%20C22%20Adjust%20App%20Note.pdf
After setting C22 and running CAL PLL, don't forget to also run CAL FIL and
update the BFO setting for each filter (even if you just
Hi Pf,
Most tone modes operate at an offset from carrier frequency, so that
the audio frequencies of interest are more or less cenetered in the
filter passband. I believe the JTx modes are already in the 1200 to
1500 Hz range so no offset is required.
The crystal filter being used only
Well, the band continues to punish us for some unknown sin. Conditions today
were as bad as they've been the last several weeks. Despite the conditions,
we still had 25 check-ins, myself included. Thanks goes out to all the
stations who helped relay in the tough ones. Here are today's check-ins:
Ingo,
I totally agree on your statement. One reflector with productname in
subject line.
(Filtering options in my e-mail program (thunderbird) do the rest.)
With multiple reflectors, think about all that moderation... ;-)
73
Arie PA3A
Ingo Meyer, DK3RED schreef op 23-8-2015 om 17:30:
Hello
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 9:32 AM, Dauer, Edward eda...@law.du.edu wrote:
I¹ll wager the same is true in other
industries where the consequences of human error can be significant. I
don¹t know enough about electrical engineering to offer any specific
suggestions; but as a starting point,
I would agree with Ted in many instances (especially where safety is
paramount), standardization is a necessity (excellent examples are given by
Ted). That said, I would have to disagree with him if we try and apply that
rational across the board. For instance, I do think applying the if it
Apologies if this has been covered before.
My K3 button tone has decided to retire without warning. Turning the
config setting on and off has no effect.
Tried hard reset, which works to re-enable the tone, but reloading the
saved config kills it again.
I know the end answer to this is likely
Great retort, Don. You beat me to saying the same thing.
So plug it in with assumptions and you get the stupeed award. If
lucky it just sits there and does nothing. Unlucky and you just
tested your warrantee (Not Covered). But hooking up ham gear without
opening manual is standard
Once you start down the path to Idiot-Proofing equipment, you will soon
learn that the average idiot is much more clever than you ever imagined!
73 George AI4VZ
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OT: Then there was the FD a few years ago when one of our guys took the
club's generator by the gas station and filled the crankcase to the top
with fuel. There -were- two (labeled) filler caps protruding from the top
of the housing . (;-)
73
Ken - K0PP
On Aug 23, 2015 9:52 AM, Phil Wheeler
Kenneth Talbott wrote:
Never solder PSU connectors - overcurrent can heat the joint and drop molten
solder where you least desire it!
Ken - ke4rg
I thought the fuses were protection against over current conditions.
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On Aug 23, 2015, at 9:50 AM, RIchard Williams via Elecraft
elecraft@mailman.qth.net wrote:
WIth Radio Shack going tits up...
Well, your report of RadioShack’s death is premature. They went through a
Chapter 11 bankruptcy proceeding, They emerged from Chapter 11 three months
after
I agree with both Richard (K8ZTT) and with Guy (K2AV), in that all safety
and error prevention strategies have to be subject to a practical
cost-benefit analysis. That’s true even in healthcare — when you receive
a transfusion, the transfused blood type is checked five or six times, not
ten
Good Morning,
Please join us this afternoon and evening.
14050 kHz at 2200z Sunday (3 PM PDT Sunday)
7045 kHz at 0100z Monday (6 PM PDT Sunday)
73,
Kevin. KD5ONS
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The P3TXMON works as described. It is a beautiful display, but I am not
sure how to interpret what I am looking at when I see my transmitted SSB
signal. Some pics in a tutorial would be helpful. Roy Morris W4WFB
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Plus there is still another crimp tool to buy/find/use if you want to
make your own connectors.
I wonder who has the most crimp tool laying around and how many. Repair
of the jack on the rig side is no picnic either.
73 de Brian/K3KO
On 8/23/2015 19:29 PM, Phil Wheeler wrote:
On 8/23/15
Hi
Do people still ask about the venerable K2 on this group? hi
my K2 serial # 5312 :
I built it 9 yrs ago now.
SO, I went back and (nervously) re-opened my K2 and re-did some of the
calibration routines.
The 4 Mhz calibration would not zero beat at 4. Mhz but at 3999.8
The PLL ref
If there is a connection which is heating that much, one has more issues
than molten solder to be resolved.
73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163
On 8/23/2015 12:37 PM, bs usb wrote:
Kenneth Talbott wrote:
Never solder PSU connectors - overcurrent can heat the joint and drop
molten
solder where you
Roy,
The ARRL Handbook might come in handy here. I believe there are many
oscillogram photos of correct time domain waveforms for SSB and CW.
There may even be some shown with overdriven audio, or mistuned PAs.
73,
matt
W6NIA
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 15:12:29 -0400, you wrote:
The P3TXMON works as
On 8/23/15 11:57 AM, Edward R Cole wrote:
I really dislike the current trend of using the
RJ45 as a mic jack. Motorola started using them
that way and it ended up being one of worst
reliability parts in the system. RJ45 don't
take to being physically stressed constantly (at
the end of a
I use my Sub-receiver ALL THE TIME in Diversity mode. If you haven't used
diversity, you are truly missing something. I also use my P3 all the time.
Can't live without either.
Bob
W1IS
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View this message in context:
http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/P3-or-Sub-Rx-tp7606593p7606613.html
I respectfully offer that it's a very good thing Elecraft used a commonly
found connector in their radio designs. One bane of technology is when
manufacturers use a myriad of proprietary connections. The huge advantage
that we have in using common connections is the availability of plugs,
sockets,
Then I sure hope no one idly plugs a water hose in
the the fuel filler port of my car!
I guess all those auto manufacturers need to
change the designs to prevent that ignorance, too.
Perhaps the K2 is just too challenging (for some) :-)
Phil W7OX
On 8/23/15 6:32 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
On Sat,8/22/2015 10:21 PM, Richard W. Solomon wrote:
Not to flog this horse any further, but I direct you to page 85 of the K2
Manual where the DB-9 connector is labeled ...RS-232 and AUX I/O... .
Is it RS-232 or not ??? Is it mis-labeled
The fact that it says RS-232 AND AUX I/O should
Never solder PSU connectors - overcurrent can heat the joint and drop molten
solder where you least desire it!
Ken - ke4rg
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of aj4tf
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 1:41 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Doug,
It may be possible that the CW monitor volume was turned to zero.
Setting the monitor volume in CW mode also sets the button feedback tone
volume.
73,
Dwayne WV5I
On 8/23/2015 1:39 PM, Doug Wetzel wrote:
Apologies if this has been covered before.
My K3 button tone has decided to
There are many examples of what George says. One of my buddies
accidentally plugged in his K3's power offset, so that the cable's red
was plugged into the K3's black. No problem until he put the ground
lug on Then some Bad Things happened.
I work and live by the rule, Double check
John,
Certainly, this is a valid reflector for any Elecraft product.
Don't worry about exactly 4.000 MHz on that reference oscillator. It is
only important that it be right on just before running CAL PLL
followed by CAL FIL - and the frequency may not be exactly 4.000 MHz
when set properly
You will never win!
Many years ago we designed a military unit that had many I/O ports, so we chose
a selection of MIL STD connectors with different shell sizes, numbers of pins,
plugs/ sockets, orientations etc. to make it soldier proof. What we didn't
realise until later was that if you
Matt == Matt Zilmer mzil...@roadrunner.com writes:
Matt Hi Pf,
Matt Most tone modes operate at an offset from carrier frequency, so that
Matt the audio frequencies of interest are more or less cenetered in the
Matt filter passband. I believe the JTx modes are already in the
This seems to have things really screwed up. Yes, the Bird 43 is a 5%
of F.S. accuracy instrument. The Bird 43P is somewhat less accurate,
although 5% F S with carrier, and more like 8% F S or so in peak mode.
In measuring a 100 watt radio with a 100 watt F S slug would seem to
be
Hello,
I'm dabbling with wsjtx, and I see that my rx audio has some definite roll
off at 300 Hz and 3500 Hz. Selected filter is the 12 kHz one, and
width is set to 4 kHz. Audio soundcard is the Numark studio-io, but I
also saw this with an el-cheapo adapter.
Also, I see the same roll-off in
Well at the very least always fill in the subject line with the true subject
even with a reply. Make darn sure what is in the message matches the subject
line.
Dalton - W4WUQ
w4...@arrl.net
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 23, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Ingo Meyer, DK3RED ma...@qrp4fun.de wrote:
Hello
The list guidelines already ask this.
If you want automatic classification and you don't want to rely on
people following the list guidelines, check out popfile.
http://getpopfile.org/
I also cast my vote against fracturing the list. I have a KX3, but I
read a lot of the K3 threads, and
Whilst much of this may be true, it certainly isn't the case in the
electronics industries (including Ham Radio) no matter how much we would
wish it.
A classic case is the 2.3mm power input plug (which is really a line socket)
which is used on radios, power tool chargers, cell phones, laptop PCs
Hello Bob,
For those that might have a more or less interest in various products.
Oh no, please, don't do it! There is one (!) list for one (!) product - Elecarft! I also
own only at the time a K1 and K2, so many topics are rather uninteresting for me. But I am
also interested in
What would be a normal value on the FP voltage display when tx at 100W,
using factory fused cables? No sub installed.
PS is Astron VS-35M linear, voltage set at 13.9 idling per FP display.
drops to 11.1 on TX. Current varies but up to 15.5A indicated. Specs call
for 17-22A tx @100W.
I suspect
Indeed it should work if it plugs in AND if it looks the same, or at least
it shouldn¹t cause any serious harm. In other industries where safety is
at issue that is a firmly enforced rule. Examples, from two industries
with which I have worked: Many lives have been saved since general
aviation
Exactly!
On 8/23/2015 7:00 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
On 8/23/2015 1:21 AM, Richard W. Solomon wrote:
Not to flog this horse any further, but I direct you to page 85 of
the K2
Manual where the DB-9 connector is labeled ...RS-232 and AUX I/O... .
Is it RS-232 or not ??? Is it mis-labeled
I like the way you split it up.
I fit mostly under A/C, I'd like to think I would never get into D unless
I'm relying on the spotting cluster rather than dialing and listening.
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From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike
K2MK
Sent: Sunday,
I respectfully offer that it's a very good thing Elecraft used a commonly
found connector in their radio designs. One bane of technology is when
manufacturers use a myriad of proprietary connections. The huge advantage
that we have in using common connections is the availability of plugs,
sockets,
Some of the pins on the AUX I/O connector meet parts of the RS232 spec, but
other of the pins are used for an elecraft proprietary expansion interface. So,
from an electrical perspective you can say it is actually a mix of both RS232
(partial) and AUX I/O. From a physical connector perspective,
On 8/23/2015 1:21 AM, Richard W. Solomon wrote:
Not to flog this horse any further, but I direct you to page 85 of the K2
Manual where the DB-9 connector is labeled ...RS-232 and AUX I/O... .
Is it RS-232 or not ??? Is it mis-labeled
RS-232 defines voltage levels (a bi-polar system
Exactly!
On 8/22/2015 7:31 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX wrote:
The K3S has a RJ-45 connector for the RS-232 communications. Now
that's different! Of course they supply a cable with a RJ-45 on one
end and a DB-9F on the other. And then to keep everybody happy, there
is what appears to be a 15
My wife came to me a long time ago with a broken iRobot product. She confused
the power plugs -easy to do, they both said iRobot and had the same plugs…
One was AC and one was DC.
If I recall, I had to replace a diode in the broken iRobot.
I used RED and YELLOW tape on the unit and plug from
If you are dealing with JA pileups, you only need a P3 because only the station
that has been called by the DX will answer.
With EU pileups you will also need a subrx because everyone will be calling all
the time.
USA pileups are in between.
Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO
On Aug 23, 2015, at 1:43 PM, Mike
Reposting this with an adjusted price.
s/n3334. Elecraft K3 in perfect condition with the following options:
KRX3 Sub receiver,
K3DVR Digital Voice Recorder,
KAT3 Antenna Tuner,
KXV3A,
MH2 Microphone.
KFL3A- 2.7 KHz filters in both the main and sub receiver,
KFL3A-1.8 KHz filter in the main
On 8/21/2015 9:03 PM, Ken Kopp - K0PP wrote:
Bird accuracy is specified to be ± 5% of meter full scale ... a 100W
element would be a poor choice to measure a 100W output level. Take a look
at any Bird's meter scale. It's not linear and can be read with the most
accuracy to the left of center
Lets end the thread at this time in the interest of reducing list overload for
others.
73,
Eric
List Moderator, from time to time..
elecraft.com
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On Aug 23, 2015, at 1:41 AM, aj4tf aj...@arrl.net wrote:
Bob,
Crimped connections are superior to soldered connections in a high
Hi Jerry,
There's
A. casual DXing
B. contesting
C. casual split pile-up chasing
D. die-hard split pile-up chasing
For A you don't need either
For B you should consider the P3
For C you should consider the Sub RX
For D you should order both immediately
If you get the P3 you will use it every
For those that might have a more or less interest in various
products.
Why not a K3/K3S reflector?
Why not a P3 reflector?
Why not a KX3 reflector?
Why not a K2 reflector?
and so on.
At least put the model in the subject line. That way I can eliminate
automatically the not
Before I got my K3 I spent about a year trying to decide between:
Better radio vs. More fun assembling it
When the XYL approved of the K3 UI and agreed I should buy one that made the
decision.
73 Bill AE6JV
On 8/21/15 at 6:41 AM, bs...@k5dkz.com (bs usb) wrote:
I have also discovered that
What is leading you towards considering a K2? What do you plan to use it for?
I really enjoyed building and using my K2. The QSK on it is smooth and silent,
whether QRP or with the KXPA100, and I love being able to switch seamlessly
between paddle and straight key without having to change
Hi Guys,
As an active WSJT-mode user, I'll attempt to clarify this set of issues.
For a more complete answer, download the WSJT 10 and WSJT-X pdf documents.
WSJT 10 and WSJT-X are designed for the rig to be set for the full USB
bandwidth of an average radio. Each mode has an agreed upon
In other words. you can read a less accurate value with greater precision.
On 8/23/2015 1:36 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
Bob,
The scale calibration --is-- compressed to the right of center,
--not-- to the left as you state, making the left portion expanded
and easier to read.
73!
Ken - K0PP
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 5:33 PM, bs usb bs...@k5dkz.com wrote:
George Danner wrote:
Once you start down the path to Idiot-Proofing equipment, you will soon
learn that the average idiot is much more clever than you ever imagined!
=
The local Micro-Center store sells T-shirts
I once tried to idiot-proof a Theatre Organ console on its lift, by using a
very stout multi-way connector for power and lift control, along with much
smaller connectors for signals etc., There was no way that it was possible
to put the wrong plug in the wrong socket, not even with a hammer!!!
Honorable Mention in the Darwin Awards :-)
Phil W7OX
On 8/23/15 5:14 PM, G4GNX wrote:
I once tried to idiot-proof a Theatre Organ
console on its lift, by using a very stout
multi-way connector for power and lift control,
along with much smaller connectors for signals
etc., There was no way
Everyone is an idiot sometimes.
Vic 4X6GP/K2VCO
On Aug 24, 2015, at 1:33 AM, bs usb bs...@k5dkz.com wrote:
George Danner wrote:
Once you start down the path to Idiot-Proofing equipment, you will soon
learn that the average idiot is much more clever than you ever imagined!
73 George
Yes, and that was what I wanted to know. I've read in this mailing
list that the DSP limits the audio at 4 kHz. I'm seeing it roll off
at little above 3400. The low end rolls off at around 300, so I'm
getting an audio passband of ~3100 Hz. I wonder if this is normal, or
if there's something
Bob,
The scale calibration --is-- compressed to the right of center,
--not-- to the left as you state, making the left portion expanded
and easier to read.
73!
Ken - K0PP
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Bob McGraw - K4TAX rmcg...@blomand.net
wrote:
This seems to have things really screwed
Bob wrote:
Well, yes. But a major design consideration used to be, available
at Radio Shack.
That was true in 1980, before the Shack began specializing in cell
phones and ring tones.
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On 8/23/15 3:33 PM, bs usb wrote:
I have never understood why anyone would want to
build equipment that could be used by idiots.
They try to understand their customer base? :-)
Phil W7OX
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There is no doubt there are many fields where being able to plug something
wrongly is life threatening or way too expensive an outcome. But, there are
many more electrical/electronic systems than different plugs and sockets. It
is simply not realistic to achieve although a connector with
To Anyone!
Issue: KAT500 Utility will not run
Version: 1.14.4.10
Windows: 7 Pro 64 bit
Observations:
1) It appears to correctly install
2) When one attempts to start the utility, it shows in the Task Manager
as a process (KAT500Utility.exe *32)
3) The application window
Bob, you just showed us your noob status. Many people ask this same
question and while I don't mind if someone mentions a model in a subject I
never would think of filtering. We are one group. Filter away if you want.
I have a very well worn delete key and it gets a daily test. But I want
them all
On Sun, Aug 23, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Ken G Kopp kengk...@gmail.com wrote:
Bob,
The scale calibration --is-- compressed to the right of center,
--not-- to the left as you state, making the left portion expanded
and easier to read.
73!
Ken - K0PP
Easier to read, perhaps, but less accurate.
Thank you. I stand corrected on the point. Not physically having it
in front of me, I was recalling another power meter I use more
frequently. It is expanded up scale and compressed down scale.
73
Bob, K4TAX
K3S s/n 10,163
On 8/23/2015 3:36 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote:
Bob,
The scale
David,
I concede on that, and yes, warmup drift is normal. I erred in using
JT65 as the example, it just requires frequency stability (which the K2
can do after warmup). What I really intended are a few modern data
modes that I understand must be 'netted' to a specific frequency, down
to
George Danner wrote:
Once you start down the path to Idiot-Proofing equipment, you will soon
learn that the average idiot is much more clever than you ever imagined!
73 George AI4VZAnd keep in mind.. just one itsy thing.. this is a hobby, it
is a unique tool to LEARN with, not solely for
Joe == Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com writes:
Joe It depends on your roofing filter ... If you have an AM (6 KHz) or
Joe FM (13 KHz) filter, you will see 300 Hz to 4200 Hz with FC=2.20 and
Joe BW=4.00 (at -3dB). If you only have a 2.8 KHz filter, bandwidth
Joe will be around
George Danner wrote:
Once you start down the path to Idiot-Proofing equipment, you will soon
learn that the average idiot is much more clever than you ever imagined!
73 George AI4VZ
Actually the real idiots are the ones attempting to do the idiot proofing.
I have never understood why
Don,
I use my K2 on JT65 all the time, in fact I hardly ever even pick up the
microphone anymore. I find that I need it to warm up for about 15 minutes
before the VFO stops slowly drifting. However, even cold, the short term
drift on the K2 is slow enough to run JT65 without issues (at least
Anyone have any suggestions with regard to what favorite functions to assign
to the P3 buttons. I already have a few different Span settings assigned to
the first four but what to do with the rest?
73,
Ron, K5HM
k5hm@gmail.com
www.qrz.com/db/k5hm
Excelsior!
While I've always been extremely fond of my sub rcvr and found it invaluable
for chasing split operations---I never got so attached to my P3---until now.
I just finished building a one-meter diameter small transmitting loop for
10-20M operation in my condo back yard. Tuning it is so very easy
That's just the problem. The K3 is so clean that it's almost boring
to watch the display. Although, I can see the RFI that occurs with my
fan dipole connected to the outboard tuner with using the amplifier on
160m (it clears when I disconnect it). I am getting more value from the
Wattmeter and
I put the Peak Toggle and the Fixed Tune Toggle on buttons. To capture
the measurements that I want to save to a USB drive, I have the commands
to Freeze the display and to save the screen assigned to buttons on one
of my P3s. The other P3 has more span settings.
73, Jim K9YC
On
This is a tough one given that everyone else is likely running without issue.
The common/obvious question: did you install as Administrator and are you
running the utility as Administrator? Depending on resource requests from the
program this can be a problem. Is the user you are running as an
How many crimp tools? (accumulated partly for working jobs I had to
supply my own tools)
Two coax crimpers for RG58/RG59/RG174 - the one I use is ratcheted
with replaceable dies
One NAPA crimper for butt spices, spades, and ring connectors
One RJ11/RJ45
Two Molex type 1.4 to 2.8mm
One for
Yes.
Tap:
SVGA DATA toggle
FREEZE toggle
NB toggle
PEAK toggle
Hold:
FIXTRACK toggle
VFO B cursor toggle
You pick two more
I have Averaging to 10.
SPAN set to Elecraft steps (2, 5, 10, 20, 50, 100, 200). Tap SPAN and turn the
dial. Am liking 50 KHz right now.
There are so many things I'd
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