Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated. . .

2017-05-30 Thread George Thornton
I agree with this assessment. I like the Elecraft solution. The K3 screen gives you clearly and simply what you need to know at a glance. No fuss and always there for you. You want a screen with a lot of other information including a band scope, put it in a separate box. That leaves you

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Nr4c
I'm not sure why users get so involved in a discussion on topics like this. The amber LCD display is part of the Elecraft image. They use it on the K3, KX2, KX3 and K3S. It's not going to change so pick another battle! One you can win. Or, wait for the K4 in a couple years and it will likely

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Matthew Cook
Good to see this functionality being added to N1MM, with luck some of the SDR developers will pick this up and it can be implemented externally to the K-line. To be honest for situational awareness during a contest having a 24" monitor with 2.5M or more pixels (or larger) above the desk fed with

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Luis V. Romero
I completely agree with Ken K6MR! I rarely, if ever, touch the radio. I sometimes twirl the main VFO knobs, but frankly, out of habit. 90% of my interface is via the computer keyboard (N1MMLogger +. Oh, yes, I'm one of those "Durn Contesters!"). But there are very interesting things on the

[Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated. . .

2017-05-30 Thread Jim Ewing
With all due respect, I think the K3/P3 is a classic design, including the man-machine interface. Not a square nanometer of wasted real estate, everything is where I need it the most and when I need it quickly. Graphics, interactivity, not too much, not too little, just the right touch. It is

[Elecraft] K3 display is dated.

2017-05-30 Thread William Levy
Gents, I don't care about the display. I care about how the radio works. How it hears and how it talks. How it works in contest or expedition environments. If display is that important you buy a FLEX and it's as big as can be. Bill N2WL

[Elecraft] My comment to the K3 Display is dated.

2017-05-30 Thread Patrick Novak
Ladies and gentlemen Maria Callas and Joan Sutherland were not the most attractive of women, but by Jove they could sing. Patrick VK2PN just recovering from WPX CW of 48 hours of practically no sleep. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread brian
Don, Agree. However, there is a need to update the "displays" for functions that were shoe horned into the K3 well after the display was cast in concrete. Things like a flashing decimal point. What the heck does that mean? There are about a dozen such "non-intuitive" displays which could

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Kent, While that is a good feature for autos, it does take some time and trouble to set up as the user desires. I did recently purchase an upper-end car and after over a month I have not done too much display customization. The simple things are the most important to me. Other stuff is

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Kevin - K4VD
Keep it simple? Like a crystal radio? On my KX3 I want a full heads-up display. It should have virtual reality goggles tied to Google Earth so I can fly to your neighborhood, check out your antenna farm and make recommendations for improvements. I want to visualize the path my radio waves take to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Ken K6MR
Not costly at all. You likely already have it on your desk. Build whatever fancy screen you want and drive the radio through the control port. Make it touch screen if you like. Big, small, color, whatever you want. The power of software. I remember one of the first SDR radio boards had an

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
I have to agree, "the kiss principle" Keep is simple stupid - works every time. While 'glitsy' displays are pretty to watch, they often do not convey relevant information, or that information is buried in the 'glitz' and not easily recognized at a glance. The K3, KX3, KX2 displays show the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread K9ZTV
One compromise, undoubtedly costly, would be a customisable display like upper-end cars are now wearing. Users could place whatever indicators they wanted, wherever they wanted, in whatever combination they wanted. But I like the Elecraft displays just as they are, for all the reasons others

[Elecraft] WTB: P3 SVGA option

2017-05-30 Thread Rob
Hello Group, Just acquired a used P3 and wanted to first check to see if someone has an available P3 SVGA board available before buying a new one. Unfortunately not enough vision here to see that small display. Thanks, Rob K6DQ K6DQ at ARRL.net

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Roger Meadows
When I worked in industrial automation the graphics on the control stations displays were getting fancier and fancier. The fancier they got, the more cluttered than got. Then, the industry as a whole started noting that more accidents were happening and missed alarms. They, because the displays

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Kevin Stover, AC0H
I have low vision. The absolute worst thing you could do is to change the K3S display. I need high contrast either a black background and light text or a light background and dark text. The K3S's background is light yellow and it has black text. Color displays sure are pretty but normal size

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Al Lorona
Whenever this thread comes up-- and it has several times before-- I usually point toward the displays on the most advanced commercial aircraft in the skies for comparison. In this context, a pilot needs to know a few (or several) critical pieces of information instantly, and easily, and can't

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Dave Cole
My K3 has a new fresh color display... I use a computer and a Genovation pad to control it... :) 73s and thanks, Dave NK7Z http://www.nk7z.net On 05/30/2017 02:36 PM, ke9uw wrote: I was wondering if the K3 display could be replaced by an updated display, one that looks like the ones on the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Bob
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, of course, and personally I like the existing K3/K3s display and its reduced power consumption, and fewer worries about RFI. The K3 is very power efficient, and that would be lost with a larger color display. The K3 is MUCH smaller/lighter than other big

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Ken K6MR
Buddy: Interesting thought. Could I operate without sight? Not likely. Especially considering my extremely lousy typing skills. But except for double checking what I typed, 90% of operating is hearing (RTTY excepted, of course). I find the less I share my brain power between visual/audio

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Scott Manthe
Remember that the K3 was designed almost 10 years ago to include being a nifty QRP/DXpedition rig. I'm guessing the monochrome display saves some current over a full-color display. 73, Scott N9AA On 5/30/17 5:36 PM, ke9uw wrote: I was wondering if the K3 display could be replaced by an

Re: [Elecraft] N6WM/KH6 KX2 portable fun

2017-05-30 Thread Chris Tate - N6WM
Ill be mostly CW and I have a small lenovo laptop that has a nice long lasting battery so I may do some real qrp rtty.. we shall see how that works out... Last year I went qrv from ZF2 and worked a couple hundred cw qso's in just a few hours with the hosts paddles flipped around backwards to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Buddy Brannan
Huh. Maybe it isn't a sighted thing that I just wouldn't understand after all. Or else Ken is an honorary blind guy. ... -- Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA Phone: 814-860-3194 Mobile: 814-431-0962 Email: bu...@brannan.name > On May 30, 2017, at 6:37 PM, Ken K6MR wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Buddy Brannan
I was turning the knob on a K3 once a couple years ago and thought, hey, what a smooth turning knob. What a nifty radio. I want one. Not in this lifetime, however, though I'm really enjoying my KX3 and K2. Well...OK...enjoying is probably a stretch, since I need to put up an hf antenna again.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Ken K6MR
And now for something completely different (regarding K3/P3 displays): Since I rarely look at the radio display when operating, I don’t need/want fancy colors/fonts/graphics. All I need is Info that is easy to read when I need it. Same for the P3. Give me what I need with a minimum of fuss.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Phil Hystad
Besides my K3 & P3, I also have an Icom IC-7300. The touch color display of the IC-7300 is essentially the same size as the P3 and I think the P3 is a little tiny bit larger of maybe 1/8th inch larger diagonal measure. The information on the IC-7300 is basically the same as the combo of the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread Thom
I was turning the knob on a K3S at Dayton and thought to myself...this looks like the display on my 10 year old Kenwood TS-570D. Come to think of it maybe Kenwood needs to update the displays on most of there radios too. 73 Thom KI8W On 5/30/2017 17:36, ke9uw wrote: I was wondering if

[Elecraft] K3 Display is Dated...

2017-05-30 Thread ke9uw
I was wondering if the K3 display could be replaced by an updated display, one that looks like the ones on the newest rigs from Japan. Could it be displayed on the monitor connected to the svga on P3? Just wondering :) - Chuck, KE9UW -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] N6WM/KH6 KX2 portable fun

2017-05-30 Thread Kevin - K4VD
Hi Chris... looking forward to trying a VA(KX3) - HI(KX2) QSO. Will you be working some CW or digital? I've been working on my checklist for portable ops with the KX3. Maybe a little OCD but I'm always concerned about getting out in the field and forgetting something key. My minimal list is: KX3

[Elecraft] N6WM/KH6 KX2 portable fun

2017-05-30 Thread Chris Tate - N6WM
All on the week of July 3-7 I am taking my annual trip to KH6 with my kids. As the boys are playing on the beach I plan to try and operate my KX2 on battery power from Kailua beach, probably several days worth. there are some nice trees and a park right by the water. I plan to use resonant

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Shack cleaning.

2017-05-30 Thread Ken G Kopp
Uh-oh (;-) I apologise. 73 K0PP On May 30, 2017 10:47 AM, "Scott Manthe" wrote: Wrong group, Ken... 73, Scott N9AA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Shack cleaning.

2017-05-30 Thread Scott Manthe
Wrong group, Ken... 73, Scott N9AA On 5/30/17 12:43 PM, Ken G Kopp wrote: Anal retentive comes to mind ... (;-) Also "petty" ... K0PP On May 30, 2017 7:14 AM, "'Charlie T, K3ICH' pin...@erols.com [KX3]" < kx3-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: You know, when I see the header “Shack

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Shack cleaning.

2017-05-30 Thread Ken G Kopp
Anal retentive comes to mind ... (;-) Also "petty" ... K0PP On May 30, 2017 7:14 AM, "'Charlie T, K3ICH' pin...@erols.com [KX3]" < kx3-nore...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > You know, when I see the header “Shack Cleaning”, I have this vision of > rooting through a pile of junk sitting on the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO issues

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Anthony, If you are getting 7 volts onto R98, there is no need to look into the U10 circuits. Check the values and soldering in other parts of the RF Board BFO and Q24 area. Is D36 installed properly using pins 2 and 3 on the SMT board with the #2 lead in the hole of the silkscreen with the

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO issues

2017-05-30 Thread Anthony Clare
Don: I just looked at the schematic. I do remember checking the voltage at R98 now that I look at it. I do recall getting over 7 volts in and somewhere around 5.8 give or take at the drain of Q24. I never thought to look at U10 or associated circuitry. I will do that as soon as I get home.

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO issues

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Anthony, If you do not find more than 7 volts at the end of R98 that is furthest away from Q24, then look at the U10A/Q8 circuit on the Control Board. Check the associated components and their soldering. That is more likely to be the problem than the active devices. 73, Don W3FPR On

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO issues

2017-05-30 Thread Anthony Clare
Hello: I am not at home to try, so I will have to check R98 later. I remember fitting the encoder and it was definitely a tight fit. I used a dremel sanding drum to almost completely flatten the pins in the affected area on the encoder board and control board. Then I reflowed all the connections

Re: [Elecraft] K2 BFO issues

2017-05-30 Thread Don Wilhelm
Anthony, When you put the K2 into CAL FCTR mode, what is the voltage at the ends of R98 (on the bottom of the board). I am interested only in the highest voltage. With the new K2s (those using the new encoder board), many strange problems are caused by contact of the encoder board with the

[Elecraft] K2 BFO issues

2017-05-30 Thread Anthony Clare
Hello: Looks like I am not the only one to have this problem. Just finished assembly phase 2(?) on the K2. It was during the BFO tests that I realized there was not enough signal at the test point for the internal counter. I checked for poor solder, improper varactor diode install, verified that