Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread WILLIE BABER
Since it is meant for public consumption, maybe Wayne won't mind that I reproduce this, that Wes also cited (from the Elecraft website), written by Wayne, N6KR: Maybe we can agree that Wayne and Elecraft ought to know. And so end of thread. --- What "Roofing

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread Wes Stewart
Okay, I'll give up, we'll just have to agree to disagree. On 6/14/2018 6:33 PM, WILLIE BABER wrote: Wes, "A "Roofing filter" is simply a filter in the radio's first IF through which all signals must pass before they will be "seen" by later receiver stages. The narrower this filter is, the

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread K9MA
There are at least two excellent reasons for the narrow crystal filters in the first IF of the K3(s).  (Wayne can correct me if I'm wrong.)  One, of course, is to reject the image of the second IF.  However, the dynamic range of the ADC in the second IF, by itself, just isn't enough to provide

[Elecraft] Aviation noise reduction headset for K3?

2018-06-14 Thread ron hess
Am setting up a newly acquired used K3 which came with no microphone. Is it possible to use an adapter to make a Lightspeed Zulu noise cancelling headset work for the K3. I got very nice reception using the cell phone attachment line but can't identify any microphone function. The two main

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread WILLIE BABER
Wes, "A "Roofing filter" is simply a filter in the radio's first IF through which all signals must pass before they will be "seen" by later receiver stages. The narrower this filter is, the less exposure later stages will have. Thus a "narrow" roofing filter is desirable -- but "narrow" is

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
With that, lets end the thread. 73 Eric /Moderator etc. elecraft.com/ On 6/14/2018 11:30 AM, Rose wrote: Well said, Rick! 73! Ken - K0PP On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 12:09 Rick WA6NHC wrote: As a retired career firefighter (line Captain), I say: A POX on the push in connections.

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Ralph Parker
>those "backstab" receptacles that electricians love to use because they are quick and easy do not have adequate contact stength and can overheat and cause voltage drops and a fire hazard. Here's a weird one: Two years ago, I bought a house that had been built in 1980, by the folks that I

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread David Gilbert
Totally agree, Don.  The receptacles you refer to are extremely secure ... even better than the ones where you have to wrap the wire around the screw because if you aren't careful the wire can squeeze out from under the screw (don't ask me how I know that).  The ones you mention also have

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread Wes Stewart
Will, First of all I have said before and will repeat it, I detest the term "roofing filter."  That said, by the generally accepted definition, you are wrong. See Elecraft's take on this: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/Roofing_Filters.htm If you will think in Wayne's terms, the post-mixer

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread Terry Hart G3VFO via Elecraft
Hi Guys. For what it's worth, I find it interesting how the term "Roofing filter" has changed a bit over time and with different 'ownership'. Personally, I first came across the term in around 1966 as a junior design engineer working on the Redifon R550 series of HF receivers. I understood

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Linearity

2018-06-14 Thread K9MA
The gain compression I measured, between 1000 and 1500 W on 40 meters, was 1.4 dB. I used the K3 and KPA1500 power meters. Factory calibration of the KPA1500. Scott K9MA -- Scott Ellington --- via iPad > On Jun 14, 2018, at 2:51 PM, Paul Baldock wrote: > > What you report of

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread Dean L
It's a simple visit to ohms law. OR Just grab a "kill a watt" tester and look at your current draw. With a quick "in the head math" the 15 amp breaker will be fine. Remember the 30amp supply is at 13.8v not 117v ac the panel breaker is at. Again Ohms law. BTW : glad you asked the question

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Don Wilhelm
Bob and all, Yes, those "backstab" receptacles that electricians love to use because they are quick and easy do not have adequate contact stength and can overheat and cause voltage drops and a fire hazard. If I were to discover them in any house I occupied, I would pull the wires out of the

[Elecraft] MY KPA-1500 IS ON THE WAY

2018-06-14 Thread Ron Durie
My KPA-1500 order is processed and shipped, with a UPS tracking number. It was ordered on February 26, 2018. It is supposed to arrive in 5 days. I will let you know next when it arrives. 73's Ron Durie WB4OOA Elecraft K-Line __

Re: [Elecraft] KPA1500 Linearity

2018-06-14 Thread Paul Baldock
What you report of compression near the maximum power is certainly true of the amplifiers like the SPE-1.5K that use a single device, but I would have thought this would not be true of the KPA1500 that uses 2 devices. This is the reason I returned my SPE and ordered the KPA. Hopefully the

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 lowers frequency with PTT

2018-06-14 Thread Fernando Sindeaux via Elecraft
Dear Friends, I had just the same issue with my KX3 and was fixed switching MIC BTN menu to PTT. Thanks for this great information! All the best to all, 73’s Fernando, PY1BL Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2018, at 3:17 AM, VK7JB wrote: > > Well, I just checked and switching MIC BTN to PTT

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Rose
Well said, Rick! 73! Ken - K0PP On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 12:09 Rick WA6NHC wrote: > As a retired career firefighter (line Captain), I say: > > A POX on the push in connections. One should NEVER use them, they are > bound to fail sooner due to the mechanics involved (each un/plug flexes > the

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/14/2018 10:18 AM, ANDY DURBIN wrote: When I added my KPA500 to my TS-590S station I found the drop in mains voltage unacceptable. I'd bet that was because of the IR drop in the long #14 wires feeding the outlet (and maybe other stuff running off that circuit). Yes, 240VAC is better,

[Elecraft] KPA1500 Latest Shipping Status

2018-06-14 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We've just updated the Elecraft Shipping Status page for the KPA1500: We have been ramping up production and are now preparing to ship orders received through Feb 27th. New Orders should ship 6.5 weeks after day of order, based on our current backlog. Also, check the Elecraft shipping status

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Rick WA6NHC
As a retired career firefighter (line Captain), I say: A POX on the push in connections.  One should NEVER use them, they are bound to fail sooner due to the mechanics involved (each un/plug flexes the internals and the binding spring and eventually fails) and they WILL cause issues (such as

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft
John, I didn’t think you were suggesting changing breakers. The original post asked if he could change out breakers to a 20A or 30A breaker. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2018, at 1:39 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > >> On 6/14/2018 4:14 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: >> It should be fine to run the

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/14/2018 8:47 AM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote: Many of the newer receptacles have a similar hole, but the screw is actually connected to an internal clamp. These are very nearly as easy to use as the old push-in receptacles, but far more secure since you're actually tightening the screw

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread Jim Brown
On 6/14/2018 4:14 AM, j...@kk9a.com wrote: It should be fine to run the KPA500 at reduced power using your existing 15 amp outlet, unless you have a lot of other stuff plugged in. No power reduction is required -- let's do the simple math. The KPA draws about 10A at 120v keydown. That 12v

[Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread ANDY DURBIN
"Will 15A house line supply enough juice for the K3S, KPA500, KAT500, and in the future a P3 Panadaper?" When I added my KPA500 to my TS-590S station I found the drop in mains voltage unacceptable. I made some changes in power distribution and now have a web power switch connected directly to

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
It depends on the inspector. You're correct about code and safety. Bigger wire has less loss and will stay cooler. Inspectors may look at a job, see a 15 amp breaker and yellow NM, and insist on the "correct size" breakers, and the "correct" 15/20A outlets. Sadly, code is often what the

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/14/2018 6:07 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote: > For the ham station, I ran a dedicated 240 volt circuit with #10 wire > but used a 20A breaker in the panel.   Likewise a dedicated 120 volt > circuit, #10 wire and a 20A breaker. You can always /undersize/ the breaker - the code specifies

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
NO! The wire will get very hot, and you may burn down your house as a result. On 6/13/2018 8:02 PM, Michael Gillen via Elecraft wrote: 2) If not can I get away with replacing the breaker with a 20A breaker? 30A? __ Elecraft mailing

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Many of the newer receptacles have a similar hole, but the screw is actually connected to an internal clamp. These are very nearly as easy to use as the old push-in receptacles, but far more secure since you're actually tightening the screw on the side to secure the clamp. 73 -- Lynn On

Re: [Elecraft] Field Day rig experience

2018-06-14 Thread WILLIE BABER
Hello Wes, I took a look. Both designs are using the idea of "roofing filter" to refer to up-conversion radios similar to the use of up-conversion 3khz filters as roofing filters in Icom radios. "Roofing filter" (a mode specific filter after the first mixer including narrow cw filters) only

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Michael Gillen via Elecraft
Hey guys thank you for the responses however I did not intend for this to get derailed into a discussion about home wiring. Michael KK6RWK > On Jun 14, 2018, at 6:12 AM, hawley, charles j jr > wrote: > > I always get the 20A outlets and switches (if needed for a motor driving > circuit)

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread j...@kk9a.com
I did not suggest changing the breaker. I wrote either use what he has at reduced output or install at least one new dedicated circuit. John KK9A Sent via the Samsung Galaxy 7 edge, an AT 4G LTE smartphone. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 8:26 AM, Harlan Sherriff wrote: > Michael, > Do NOT replace

Re: [Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I always get the 20A outlets and switches (if needed for a motor driving circuit) for everything. I have been using the strip, push in, and tighten the screw to clamp down on the wire type. They seem very good as to contact. Chuck KE9UW From:

[Elecraft] AC Power for the Station

2018-06-14 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
And in replacing receptacles, I found the original 1980 wiring in our house was done by the "strip and push-in" connections.   Many I found were loose, some showed signs of heating.   I took on the project to replace all of the receptacles and switches in the house.   In doing so, I did NOT

Re: [Elecraft] Error in your comments Charlie

2018-06-14 Thread Charlie T
Holy Frijoles!! I did NOT know that. I DID know you can use 20A/120V * outlets on 15 Amp circuits, but I hadn't heard about the breaker spec down-grade as well. I recently changed out all my kitchen outlets to the 20A * type mainly just to get a heavier duty outlet. The code called for

Re: [Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread Harlan Sherriff via Elecraft
Michael, Do NOT replace the breaker with a larger current breaker UNLESS the wiring is rated for the extra current. 15A = 14 gage wire 20A = 12 gage wire 30A = 10 gage wire Harlan K4HES Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2018, at 7:14 AM, "j...@kk9a.com" wrote: > > It should be fine to run

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 lowers frequency with PTT

2018-06-14 Thread Michael Blake
John, It has been my perception that the changing resistance of the 1/8” TRRS Mic plug, as it rotates slightly when holding the Mic, is the source of the frequency instability. Turning off the Up/Dwn function, as you have discovered, is the cure. Very 73 - Mike - K9JRI > On Jun 14,

[Elecraft] power requirements for a K3S, KPA500, KAT500, P3?

2018-06-14 Thread j...@kk9a.com
It should be fine to run the KPA500 at reduced power using your existing 15 amp outlet, unless you have a lot of other stuff plugged in. You can always add a 240v outlet later. I ran a separate 20 amp 120v outlet along with a new 240v outlet into the shack. Your 30 amp power supply is adequate

Re: [Elecraft] KX2 lowers frequency with PTT

2018-06-14 Thread VK7JB
Well, I just checked and switching MIC BTN to PTT has resolved the issue. Thanks! Looking more carefully, the frequency down-jumping glitch occurs on my KX3 about every 10-20 actuations of the PTT switch - the timing seems random, but is often enough to be irritating. And it stops with the