Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-08 Thread Doug Turnbull
ernst-fortin Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation) Samuel E-F said: Buy a radio, attend a quarterly held two or three day class presented by the designers on advanced topics? OK, maybe it's a four-hour class. :) Crazy Huh

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-08 Thread don Swetzig
Dear Group This is a very good discussion and it is spot on for a new K3 owner. I have owned my K3 for about one month and I have struggled to learn how to use this radio. nbsp;So a fairly new ham and a high feature radio are not necessarly a great fit. nbsp; So yes for guys like me some

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-08 Thread robtk21
...@martineer.net, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com, Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:09:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice Dear Group This is a very good discussion and it is spot on for a new K3 owner. I have owned my K3 for about one

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-08 Thread eric manning
Dear Joe With respect, it seems to me that the secret sauce in the K3 is largely in the FIRMWARE, which is why I carefully avoided even mentioning it, let alone asking for descriptive material on it. [ I agree that Elecraft would be nuts to publish the firmware in human-readable form, and I

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-08 Thread Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
Each new version of the firmware (including beta versions) comes with a description of the changes made. In fact the document included describes each change that the update includes dating back to MCU 1.65 and DSP 1.52, 1-28-08. You don't have to ask for it. The file name is hfwnotes.rtf and

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-08 Thread Byron Servies
Cunningham wb5...@martineer.net, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com, Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, December 8, 2010 7:09:20 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice Dear Group This is a very good discussion and it is spot on for a new K3 owner. I have

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-08 Thread Stephen Prior
Byron, That's exactly, as you Americans would say, the 'way to go'. I am always a little saddened to read of someone who has a top end transceiver yet who is new to the hobby and probably too does not have a background of short wave listening. I can only imagine how much there is to learn,

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-08 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
@mailman.qth.netelecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 2:17:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation) one thing that would also help.. when folks explain their process, how they got there, and what their setting are. they really

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-08 Thread Gary Gregory
Perhaps the small group seeking insights into the design of the K3 could show us all where this information has been supplied by Y,K Y etc? I am sure it is not high on Elecraft's list of 'things to do' and so it may be quite a while before the information you seek is released. Already the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-08 Thread Jim Cox
- From: Joe Subich, W4TV li...@subich.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was;(More Thorough Documentation) Someone else argued that to become an expert with the K3, it predominately comesfrom using

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-08 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Stephen, I used to feel the same way, having come into Ham radio building and operating my own gear from the ground up and getting my Commercial Radiotelegraph and Radiotelephone licenses passing tests demonstrating that I could draw schematics and block diagrams of equipment from FM transmitters

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-08 Thread Byron Servies
Stephen, Well, it was the way to go for me, but I can completely understand buying a K3 as a first radio. I have a number of hobbies, and my normal technique is to buy the kit all the others are comparing themselves against; the K3 certainly fits that bill in ham radio. I like to buy good gear

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-07 Thread The Smiths
, 6 Dec 2010 19:38:24 +0100 From: helmut.be...@t-online.de To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction Dear Wayne, From my point of view I like to have a written (Paper or pdf) manual. I see your effort in updating such a manual

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-07 Thread K4IA
What happened to the K3 wiki? Wouldn't that be a good place for users to develop a handbook? Buck k4ia K3 #101 In a message dated 12/7/2010 11:54:18 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, notforc...@hotmail.com writes: For all of those that asked for it on here I have sent a series of 5 documents

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-07 Thread David Gilbert
No, it wouldn't. A wiki wouldn't be organized any better than the current K3 manual. The K3 manual suffers less from not having enough important information than it does from being structured like it was written by an engineer who felt he had more important things to do. 73, Dave AB7E

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-07 Thread Don Cunningham
The K3 Wiki was pulled by Thom LaCosta due to lack of use. Besides, it would be more disjointed than the manual!! 73, Don, WB5HAK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread Greg McConaughey
I'm certainly not an expert on the K3, but I do appreciate the information that cycles through this reflector, and I do share the desire for a compendium of how-to and best practices information on the rig. That said, I am a fair writer and I have a good collection of illustration and publishing

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-07 Thread Fred Jensen
Hmmm ... I can't speak to Another Don's sales conjecture, but I don't think basic tech writing skill is the root problem of this discussion. If I know what I'm looking for, I usually find it in the downloadable PDF manual most of the time, and it is clearly written. Nearly always, when I

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread Wayne Burdick
We've already started work on a K3 owner's manual supplement that's more tutorial in nature and addresses the concerns posted. 73, Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread Phil LaMarche
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Tuesday, December 07, 2010 1:41 PM To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice We've already started work on a K3 owner's manual supplement that's more tutorial

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-07 Thread Sam Morgan
one thing that would also help.. when folks explain their process, how they got there, and what their setting are. they really must include the relavent settings for AGC DCY, AGC HLD, AGC PLS, AGC SLP, AGC THR, AGC-F and AGC-S with out these as a reference point what ever comments are

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Thanks, Greg. 73, Dick - KA5KKT I'm certainly not an expert on the K3, but I do appreciate the information that cycles through this reflector, and I do share the desire for a compendium of how-to and best

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread Mike KS7D
Thanks Wayne. When it is ready I will incorporate it into my K3 Micro Manual. Should make a very valuable supplement. Mike ks7d Sent from my iPad On Dec 7, 2010, at 1:41 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: We've already started work on a K3 owner's manual supplement that's more

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread George Jan
Wayne, Thanks for my K3 and by extension the manual both in paper and pdf. I may be in the minority - this is my second radio with only about 6 months experience before purchasing the K3. The manual was instrumental in getting me installed operating the K3. My first radio is a used Kenwood

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-07 Thread samuel ernst-fortin
@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, December 7, 2010 2:17:13 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation) one thing that would also help.. when folks explain their process, how they got there, and what their setting are. they really must include

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

2010-12-07 Thread Don Cunningham
Wayne, Thanks SO much for listening to our issues and then taking positive action to address them. This is the main reason you are staying WAY ahead of the major three in amateur transceiver manufacturing. Those of us out here giving feedback ARE really trying to help, and although there are

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-07 Thread eric manning
While we're on the topic, I would really like to have a text describing the design of the K3, an aid in understanding what the components do, the design choices and why they were made, WHY modules were designed the way that they were, and HOW they work at the component or group of components

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Need for advice was; (More Thorough Documentation)

2010-12-07 Thread eric manning
Samuel E-F said: Buy a radio, attend a quarterly held two or three day class presented by the designers on advanced topics? OK, maybe it's a four-hour class. :) Crazy Huh? Not crazy at all! Could also be held at Pacificon etc as one part of a K3 operators get-together. [Which I'd very much

[Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-06 Thread Pete Smith
One of the things that strikes me reading through the manual is how little advice there is in it about how to use the K3, as opposed to documenting its features. I'm sure that the defaults probably represent their best judgment in many cases, and that the guys probably despaired at

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-06 Thread Edward Dickinson, III
Hi Pete, Your thoughts regarding usage and perhaps techniques may have some merit. A web page or perhaps PDF document may be appropriate for distribution. With modest resources, either might be created. Have you considered offering to be a clearing house for such information regarding 'how's'

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-06 Thread Wayne Burdick
Note that we already have an extensive FAQ page for the K3: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/K3FAQ.htm There are many operating tips on this page, categorized by mode, etc. NR is one of the areas covered. Would this be a good place to add more extensive operating advice? This page can be

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-06 Thread robtk21
A FAQ or youtube video on operating split would be most helpful for us newbies. - Original Message - From: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, December 6, 2010 12:09:54 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Need for advice was; noise reduction

2010-12-06 Thread Pete Smith
Yes. 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com, spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 On 12/6/2010 1:09 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: Note that we