Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-06 Thread Philippe Trottet
Hi Wayne, Just downloaded MCU 4.18. Great improvement and everything is ok now. Once again many thanks for the tremendous support of the Elecraft team. Bst 73's Philippe A65BI Elecraft, by Hams, for HamsWhat else ! Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com 05-11-2010 8:54 We're working on the SSB

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Tim Tucker
I have the same experience that Philippe has. I thought I had one or both 3cx800A7 tubes going flat in my amp when I had to increase the drive to a level I never have been close to approaching to get 1KW out. It's great to hear that you guys are on this new glitch so quickly. Tim On Thu, Nov

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Philippe Trottet
After many tries, on Dummy load first then with distant Ham friends, conclusion was to re-installed MCU 4.14. Instead of giving the same dynamic with the MH2 microphone, with my Amp on, using 12w drive, using Mic=2 COMP=20, pronouncing the number 6 slowly, I have seen immediately the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Olli Tuppurainen
. marraskuuta 2010 19:19 Vastaanottaja: Elecraft list Aihe: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? I updated my K3 to MCU 4.17 beta last night along with DSP 2.65 and FPU 1.4(?) and now today I notice that my SSB output is down about 3 dB. I can only coax about 50 Watts peak out of it and I've

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Wayne Burdick
We're working on the SSB issue. Wayne On Nov 5, 2010, at 10:51 AM, Olli Tuppurainen wrote: Same thing..with 4.17 beta my SSB output dropped to 50W...reverted back to 4.14 everything is ok. APF was great though ;) __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Don Wilhelm
Phillippe, You state the mic gain setting and the compression, but for the K3, the most important setting is to obtain 5 to 7 bars on the ALC meter with the compression turned to zero. If that is not done as the first step, then the K3 cannot properly control its power output. After

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread James Sarte
Nate et all, I stand corrected. Looks like K3 #2730 also has this issue. I didn't notice at first, but then noticed it last night. Performing a TX calibration didn't really fix it completely, although it did help. Glad to know that the boys at Aptos are working on it. 73 de James K2QI On

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Edward R. Cole
Successfully downloaded MCU4.17 and began experimenting with APV. It took awhile to find a weak CW signal - 20m band must be in good shape. I did find one that was pretty spotty reception in 2.8-KHz bw; a bit better with 400-Hz. Then is turned on the APV. I could see a definite improvement

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-05 Thread Wayne Burdick
We've now fixed this and are re-testing the code. Should have a new beta release later this evening. Wayne __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

[Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
I updated my K3 to MCU 4.17 beta last night along with DSP 2.65 and FPU 1.4(?) and now today I notice that my SSB output is down about 3 dB. I can only coax about 50 Watts peak out of it and I've made no changes to microphone, TX EQ, Mic Gain, Compression, or output power (set to 100 W).

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
Additional testing shows that when I set my power down to 5 Watts and then back up to 100 Watts results in a max peak output of 50 Watts on SSB on both an external and the K3's Wattmeter. Setting the mode to CW results in 100 Watts output and reverting back to SSB I can get about 75 Watts peak

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread k2qi . nyc
-boun...@mailman.qth.net To: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? Sent: Nov 4, 2010 13:32 Additional testing shows that when I set my power down to 5 Watts and then back up to 100 Watts results in a max peak output of 50 Watts on SSB on both

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread JAMES ROGERS
In a word, yes Jim, W4ATK On Nov 4, 2010, at 12:18 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: I updated my K3 to MCU 4.17 beta last night along with DSP 2.65 and FPU 1.4(?) and now today I notice that my SSB output is down about 3 dB. I can only coax about 50 Watts peak out of it and I've made no

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread JAMES ROGERS
I went through the CONFIG menus to see what might have changed while in SSB. I found DUAL PB had APF on. I was unable to turn it off while in SSB, so went back to CW mode turned the APF off (nor) and returned to SSB and all was normal. Full output. I have confirmed you can only turn APF

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread nr4c
I'm new to all this. I noticed a lower output last night as well, after the ...17 load. Should we do a calibration and configuration after a FW update? Time to get out the SG2 again? ...bc BTW: the APF looks real cool. I'm not a CW operator, but this makes me drool a little bit.

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Stephen Prior
I don't have any lack of ssb power output here after the new download with APF enabled in config. IO have to say I think the new APF is very good indeed. Running 4.17 on the K3 and 00.41 on the P3. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 04/11/2010 18:56, n...@widomaker.com n...@widomaker.com wrote: I'm new

[Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Greg Buhyoff
Power fine here with 4.17. Get full 100W PEP out on both CW and SSB and the drive power that I normally use for my amp is as accurate as it always was. Checked two K3s with an Alpha 4510, an LP-100A and an Array Solutions PowerMaster. I don't see anything different at all regarding power

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 04 Nov 14:06 -0500, Stephen Prior wrote: I don't have any lack of ssb power output here after the new download with APF enabled in config. Interesting. Thanks to Jim for finding that setting Dual PB to Nor will correct this. Hopefully, Wayne is reading this thread. :-) IO have to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
I am unable to duplicate your conditions, I am only able to get APF on in CW mode. Wonder if this would be something where a previously uncontrolled memory bit is in an undetermined state, leaving a strange remembered condition when those bits are used for the first time? 73, Guy. On Thu, Nov

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave, W8OV
I had no loss of SSB power output after the 4.17 Beta install. The APF works wonderfully, with only a hint of ringing to my ears. Really nice addition to the K3. --Dave, W8OV On 11/4/2010 3:11 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: * On 2010 04 Nov 14:06 -0500, Stephen Prior wrote: I don't have any lack

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote: I had no loss of SSB power output after the 4.17 Beta install. The APF works wonderfully, with only a hint of ringing to my ears. Really nice addition to the K3. At least some of you aren't seeing this. :-) James Rogers suggested turning

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
Please retry TX gain calibration on affected bands. This is the usual cure for a difference between CW and SSB power output. Wayne N6KR http://www.elecraft.com On Nov 4, 2010, at 4:30 PM, Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us wrote: * On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote: I had no loss

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread k2qi . nyc
-Original Message- From: Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us Sender: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 18:30:44 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? * On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote: I had no loss of SSB

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
to see what happens in that mode. Dave, N4QS - Original Message - From: Nate Bargmann n...@n0nb.us To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? * On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote: I had

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? * On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote: I had no loss of SSB power output after the 4.17 Beta install.  The APF works wonderfully, with only a hint of ringing to my ears.  Really

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? I am seeing the same reduction in SSB output power. I installed 4.17 Beta last night. It appears that the reduced power only occurs when I have APF activated. I have twice restored SSB power by doing the following: 1). Changing mode

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Fred Jensen
OK, my SSB output was low too. I'm on phone so rarely, were it not for the reflector, I'd probably never have checked and when I did find out, the thread would have already died. I did the TX Gain calibration as Wayne suggested, all seems to be well on all bands. Apparently, the DL in my

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Dave Perry N4QS
...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 9:16 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? This is so completely wierd On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Dave Perry N4QS n...@comcast.net wrote: Now I seem to have a real problem. I did a TX Gain calibration using the K3

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 04 Nov 21:10 -0500, Dave Perry N4QS wrote: Now I seem to have a real problem. I did a TX Gain calibration using the K3 Utility for both 5 and 50 watts. I worked perfectly and tx gain appeared to be right on all bands. I then did some testing into a dummy load with RTTY. I

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Philippe Trottet
: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output? * On 2010 04 Nov 18:23 -0500, Dave, W8OV wrote: I had no loss of SSB power output after the 4.17 Beta install. The APF works wonderfully, with only a hint of ringing to my ears. Really nice addition to the K3. At least some of you aren't

Re: [Elecraft] K3 MCU 4.17 (APF beta) kills SSB output?

2010-11-04 Thread Wayne Burdick
We're working on the SSB problem. 73, Wayne N6KR On Nov 4, 2010, at 9:49 PM, Philippe Trottet wrote: Same thing to me, I was noticed it when put my Amp w/GU84B on, need 20w+ to obtain 500w in ssb instead of my normal 16w... __