Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread Kevin Cozens
On 2018-03-17 02:51 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: Someone told me the patent office issues patents now with little vetting and lets the courts figure it out. That would explain a lot if true. -- Cheers! Kevin. http://www.ve3syb.ca/| "Nerds make the shiny things that

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/17/2018 11:51 AM, hawley, charles j jr wrote: > Someone told me the patent office issues patents now with little vetting and > lets the courts figure it out. To add to the chaos, disputes of infringement and the legitimacy of a patent are in the Federal arena while the amount of damages,

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Someone told me the patent office issues patents now with little vetting and lets the courts figure it out. Chuck Jack Sent from my iPhone, cjack > On Mar 17, 2018, at 1:10 PM, Phil Kane wrote: > >> On 3/16/2018 3:56 PM, kevinr wrote: >> >> Re-inventing things over the

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread James Wilson
Wayne and others The 2D fasteners - invented, patented or not - they make for some beautiful cabinets. They are both stylish and a delight to use. More good from Elecraft Jim - W4RKS __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread Phil Kane
On 3/16/2018 3:56 PM, kevinr wrote: > Re-inventing things over the centuries is quite common.  The problem > which needs to be solved pushes the imagination of the builder into > crafting similar answers. Inventing something is a no-brainer. Getting patent protection for it is something else!

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread hawley, charles j jr
I think Wayne’s short 2D fasteners are kind of special. Being just long enough for the joint, they allow an adjustment that I’ve used so many times constructing the K transceivers, etc. to fit the panels and boards just so. Also light weight. Chuck KE9UW Urbana, IL Sent from my iPhone, cjack

[Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-17 Thread Martin
Hi. For the european guys: Try http://www.box73.de/index.php?cPath=241_245 The dimensions are metric, so are the threads. I wouldn't combine those with elecraft products , but if i were to make my own enclosures etc. i'd take these. Hassle-free for the metric native. -- Ohne CW ist es

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wes Stewart
Don, I've used angle stock on more primitive projects but if you look at the picture(s) you can see that the flat plates are joined with 3/8" square aluminum bar stock.  I used T6 material for its clean drilling and threading properties.  The flat plates are all 6061-T6 material as well. 

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread kevinr
The same principle has been used in woodworking for quite a long time.  My father learned it from his grandfather for cabinet making.  I am currently watching the British '70s television series Connections.  Re-inventing things over the centuries is quite common.  The problem which needs to be

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Wes, If you are referring to the aluminum angle stock, I used that back in 1960 when constructing a amplifier. I did not think I "invented" it, and at that time I did not have a drill press, just a hand drill and a tap, so the holes were not precisely spaced. It worked well, and complied

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Bill Johnson
qth.net> On Behalf Of Wayne Burdick Sent: Friday, March 16, 2018 2:36 PM To: kevinr <kev...@coho.net> Cc: Elecraft Reflector <elecraft@mailman.qth.net> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardwar

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wes Stewart
I'm glad you see it my way :-) BTW, a couple of our other club members projects are worth taking a look at. Also, one of our members reported at last night's meeting that he received his KPA1500 the day before but didn't have in on the air yet. Wes On 3/16/2018 1:34 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
You win :) W http://www.elecraft.com > On Mar 16, 2018, at 1:28 PM, Wes Stewart wrote: > > Johnny come lately: I invented them in nineteen seventy something. And mine > really are 3D :-) > > http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg > > Overall

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wes Stewart
Johnny come lately:  I invented them in nineteen seventy something.  And mine really are 3D :-) http://sadxa.org/n7ws/K7CVT_Amp_Input_Compartment.jpg Overall views here: http://sadxa.org/n7ws.html Wes  N7WS ex K7CVT On 3/16/2018 12:36 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote: But they *do* allow you to

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread G4GNX
:17 PM To: G4GNX ; Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners Alan, That is a custom design by Elecraft, so I doubt there are alternate sources. You can order by contacting Elecaft sales (sa...@elecraft.com) and ask for p/n E100078 - 2-D Fastener. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 2:12 PM

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread G4GNX
To: kevinr Cc: Elecraft Reflector Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:29 PM, kevinr <

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
But they *do* allow you to join two enclosure planes while also supporting a PCB or other hardware. That was the intent of the design. (I invented these in 1998 :) Wayne N6KR > On Mar 16, 2018, at 12:29 PM, kevinr wrote: > > They are only able to connect one plane to

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread kevinr
They are only able to connect one plane to another plane.  They cannot connect three planes at one time.  Making a 2D connection is what they do.    Kevin.  KD5ONS On 03/16/2018 11:47 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". On 3/16/2018

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Don Wilhelm
Alan, That is a custom design by Elecraft, so I doubt there are alternate sources. You can order by contacting Elecaft sales (sa...@elecraft.com) and ask for p/n E100078 - 2-D Fastener. 73, Don W3FPR On 3/16/2018 2:12 PM, G4GNX wrote: Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Alan, We designed these specifically for our products; they are not available commercially. Please contact sales if you require a small quantity of them. 73, Wayne N6KR > On Mar 16, 2018, at 11:12 AM, G4GNX wrote: > > Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 11:47 AM, Wes Stewart wrote: > I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". Presumably because they *fasten* in two dimensions (there are no threaded holes in the ends of the blocks). 73, ~iain / N6ML > On 3/16/2018

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread Wes Stewart
I've never understood why a three-dimensional object is called "2D". On 3/16/2018 11:41 AM, EricJ wrote: I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to make without. If you make them,

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread EricJ
I bet they're proprietary to Elecraft, but I don't know that for sure. Easy to make if you have a drill press, hacksaw and 4-40 drill and tap. Hard to make without. If you make them, observe and measure very carefully. The holes are not centered on the block. They're offset ~1 mm from

[Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2018-03-16 Thread G4GNX
Does anyone know where I can buy a small quantity of the 2D Fasteners that hold Elecraft cases together? These are the aluminum blocks with 2 threaded holes on one pair of sides and 1 threaded hole in the other pair of sides. Is there an alternative name for them? I tried Google and came up

[Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2008-10-16 Thread Lee Buller
I am curious about the 2D fasteners that Elecraft uses.  Who makes them and can they be purchased in larger sizes?  Or, are they something the E dreamed up? Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2008-10-16 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
The 2Ds are custom made for Elecraft. Wayne dreamed them up. 73, Eric WA6HHQ _..._ -Original Message- From: Lee Buller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thursday, Oct 16, 2008 9:12 am Subject: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net I am curious about the 2D

Re: [Elecraft] 2D Fasteners

2008-10-16 Thread Andrew Moore
I am curious about the 2D fasteners that Elecraft uses. Who makes them and can they be purchased in larger sizes? Or, are they something the E dreamed up? Elecraft buys them from another source. Elecraft doesn't sell them, but last time I inquired about this (a couple years ago) they were