Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-11 Thread Jack Smith
: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector On 6/10/2013 12:41 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote: There are two reasons that all caps bother people. The first is internet convention where words in all CAPS are considered to be LOUD or SHOUTING. That means all caps emails are seen

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-11 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/10/2013 10:28 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: Phil, You said: Even into today, HF marine safety and press bulletins and traffic are transmitted in upper case because Baudot and SITOR RTTY use International Telegraph Alphabet Number 2 which does not have lower case. I'm having a problem

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-11 Thread Bill Frantz
Wikipedia is a great resource for computer/communication standards. Baudot and its derived code ITA2 have only upper case, with two characters LTRS and FIGS to determine whether letters or numbers and special characters are being sent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baudot_code RIchard may be

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
We're drifting way off-topic. Let's end this thread for now and take it to direct email if needed. 73, Eric List moderotator elecraft.com On 6/11/2013 10:26 AM, Phil Kane wrote: On 6/10/2013 10:28 PM, Richard Fjeld wrote: Phil, You said: Even into today, HF marine safety and press

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-11 Thread Jim Lowman
Same goes for those of us who programmed IBM mainframes. All caps don't bother me for that reason. However, I understand that it does bother some people, so I avoid it. What bothers me more is textspeak, especially failure to use mixed case. Not capitalizing the letter 'i' when used as a

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-11 Thread Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft
This thread has been closed. Eric elecraft.com On 6/11/2013 2:40 PM, Jim Lowman wrote: Same goes for those of us who programmed IBM mainframes. All caps don't bother me for that reason. However, I understand that it does bother some people, so I avoid it. What bothers me more is textspeak,

[Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Vincent Diak
Sorry About the caps, seems like i'm always saying i'm sorry about the use of capital letters. I have a vision problem, so i'm going to increase the size; hope this will show up! i like the color blue, but don't know if this will go to the reflector the way i see it. Wish i cold see better, its

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Brendon Whateley
Hi Vincent, There are two reasons that all caps bother people. The first is internet convention where words in all CAPS are considered to be LOUD or SHOUTING. That means all caps emails are seen as yelling at the reader by most. The second is much more important, and that is that all caps is

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM, Vincent Diak uncleb...@optonline.netwrote: Sorry About the caps,... === Vince, an easy way to make text bigger and easier to read is to press Control-+ (the Control key and the + key at the same time). You can make the letters huge, but it won't affect

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Bill Frantz
Note that Capital letters are slower to transmit in the PSK family of modes due to the way Varicode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varicode is defined. While sending all caps makes PSK look like RTTY, it is noticeably slower than using mixed case or all lower case. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread EricJ
But it doesn't work in all email software when you are composing. I use Thunderbird and it works to read incoming email, but it doesn't when Writing or Composing an email. Good idea and worth experimenting, though. If I were Vincent, I'd make it as large as I need to compose and let others

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Don Wilhelm
Vince, The reflector accepts only plain text, and I believe the HTML used to form large size letters and color are stripped off, so everyone sees only the plain text of your message. 73, Don W3FPR On 6/10/2013 3:08 PM, Vincent Diak wrote: Sorry About the caps, seems like i'm always saying

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Here on the Elecraft reflector the text is transmitted as plain ASCII, meaning that all of the formatting (font size, etc.) is stripped. That won't fix all caps since capitals and lower case are all individual ASCII coded characters and go through the system as such. But, if you increase the font

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread W4SK
- From: Vincent Diak uncleb...@optonline.net To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 2:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector Sorry About the caps, seems like i'm always saying i'm sorry about the use of capital letters. I have a vision problem, so i'm going

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Rick Johnson
Heh Ya, what you said. From: w...@comcast.net To: uncleb...@optonline.net; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:01:25 -0500 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector Isn't it amazing that we, as a society, have come to such a cushy existence that we have

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Bill K9YEQ
and understand it. All caps kills my brain. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ron D'Eau Claire Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:45 PM To: 'Vincent Diak'; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Capital

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/10/2013 12:41 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote: There are two reasons that all caps bother people. The first is internet convention where words in all CAPS are considered to be LOUD or SHOUTING. That means all caps emails are seen as yelling at the reader by most. Sometimes the writer wants

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
True, Phil, but IMX teleprinters used a sans-serif typeface (e.g. Arial or Helvetica for the computer crowd ;-), just like the mills (all upper case typewriters) we used to copy CW. Maybe it's that experience, but I find typical serif fonts such as Times much harder to read in all caps. 73 Ron

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Phil Kane
On 6/10/2013 1:57 PM, EricJ wrote: But it doesn't work in all email software when you are composing. I use Thunderbird and it works to read incoming email, but it doesn't when Writing or Composing an email. Good idea and worth experimenting, though. Look into a T-Bird add-on called External

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
YOU SURE IT'S NOT JUST BAUDOT? RYRYRYRYRYRYRY On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Vincent Diak wrote: Sorry About the caps, seems like i'm always saying i'm sorry about the use of capital letters. I have a vision problem, so i'm going to increase the size; hope this will show up! i like the color blue, but

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Bill K9YEQ
To: Vincent Diak Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector YOU SURE IT'S NOT JUST BAUDOT? RYRYRYRYRYRYRY On Mon, 10 Jun 2013, Vincent Diak wrote: Sorry About the caps, seems like i'm always saying i'm sorry about the use of capital letters. I have a vision

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread kevinr
Uncials (lower case letters) were invented by the Carolingians to allow people to read faster and increase literacy. It is odd that an unlettered king (later Emperor) started a wave of literacy in the early middle ages. The same follk also designed the italic font style. It was named italic

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Matt Zilmer
Hi Kevin, This is probably off-topic^2 (way off-topic). I heard on the 9A1A (AZ admin net) that there is a move afoot to allow lower case in MARS messages. This will make things a lot easier to handle for regular people, but still seems like it's a long ways off. 73, matt W6NIA / NNN0UET SCA

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Interesting! Back in the day if one did not have a mill for copying (often one wasn't available) we hand printed block letters -- all caps. Indeed, I passed my 20 WPM Commercial and Amateur Extra CW tests with them. I just assumed that was how it started back in the early days of Morse that

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Walter Underwood
It is not a rumor. The Navy, at least, is moving to the brave new world of mixed case. Who knows what perversion will be next, probably that communist Unicode stuff. http://www.dodbuzz.com/2013/06/06/navy-scuttles-all-cap-messages/ wunder K6WRU On Jun 10, 2013, at 8:04 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire

Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector

2013-06-10 Thread Richard Fjeld
) for 32 characters. That was long ago. Dick, n0ce - Original Message - From: Phil Kane To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Capital letters on reflector On 6/10/2013 12:41 PM, Brendon Whateley wrote: There are two