Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Sam Morgan
All these QRP/QRO contacts stories, are pretty meaningless to me, *UNLESS* they have antenna, band, and qth information included. 1w/5w/15w from a 3 ele beam @ 70 feet is a bit of a different story from a short clandestine wire and an apartment building or 160m vs 20m or DXCC from middle of

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Brian Alsop
Hi Sam, Agree. They also don't report how the guy they worked had to struggle to pull them out or what his equipment was. I did a breakdown of the maximum distance to 100, 200 and 300 DXCC countries for each country of the world. EU certainly has a big advantage. Several EU countries have

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread AD6XY
The largest contributor to DX success has and always will be your ability to be there and efficiently radiate a signal in the right direction and to receive signals well. I have always found QRP based on TX power to be anachronistic. It is the EIRP that matters. Neglecting efficiency for the

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread stan levandowski
Sam, I clearly see your point. Perhaps I can volunteer some specifics from my own QRP station. I live in a townhouse in NY state opposite a 1500 foot mountain a half mile away and I'm about 200 feet MSL. My antenna is an East/West 44' nonresonant doublet in my attic which loads up on 80

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread John Ragle
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Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Tony Castellano
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts Sam, I clearly see your point. Perhaps I can volunteer some specifics from my own QRP station. I live in a townhouse in NY state opposite a 1500 foot mountain a half mile away and I'm about 200 feet MSL. My antenna is an East/West 44' nonresonant doublet

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread w1pns
On Mon, 2011-08-01 at 09:50 -0400, stan levandowski wrote: Sam, I clearly see your point. snip Oh, all right, another testimonial, sort of. I run 5w through an attic (two-story house) dipole cut for 20m and fed with ladder line, at least to the attic floor. Then it goes to coax -- the

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Gary D Krause
I'm just curious, Dave, but, what type of antenna are you using? Gary, N7HTS On Mon, 01 Aug 2011 06:48:07 +0100 Dave Sergeant d...@davesergeant.com wrote: On 31 Jul 2011 at 22:07, vicki glover wrote: Until I built my K2 (7186) I had no idea that dx on 15 watts was even possible. I have

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
You are trying to make too much sense out of it, Sam! QRP operation makes no more sense than chasing DX or running up a big score in a contest. It's just a challenge that some Hams enjoy pursuing. All Hams have the same struggle over a better antenna or geographic location, whether they're

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Gary D Krause
...@optonline.net To: k5oai@gmail.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:50 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts Sam, I clearly see your point. Perhaps I can volunteer some specifics from my own QRP station. I live in a townhouse in NY state opposite

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Tony Estep
On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 10:56 AM, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: You are trying to make too much sense out of it... I think Ron sums it up very neatly. If you examine any kind of DXing too closely it probably doesn't make much sense. Nonetheless, it's fun and can be

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Kurt Cramer
I don't chime in on many of these threads, but this one got me thinking. I was first licensed as a Novice in 1951. As a General in 1952. I worked mostly 10 meters with a Harvey Wells TBS-50d. That had an 807 in the final, so ran 50 watts on AM. So that's about what a K2 runs on SSB. 12 watts

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Kurt Cramer
That sunspot count is 128. Sorry. From: w7...@msn.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: RE: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:41:54 -0700 I don't chime in on many of these threads, but this one got me thinking. I was first licensed as a Novice in 1951. As a General

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread John Harper
Agree. They also don't report how the guy they worked had to struggle to pull them out or what his equipment was. Brain, I beleive you're speaking from the wrong orifice: A DX station working a pile-up isn't trying to pull out the QRPer - he's just trying to work those he hears. The fact that

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Fred Jensen
Don't we all wish it was 2128! :-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2011 Cal QSO Party 1-2 Oct 2011 - www.cqp.org On 8/1/2011 9:41 AM, Kurt Cramer wrote: Sunspot count is 2128 today. There's hope yet. 73, Kurt, W7QHD

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
The first QRP club I belonged to in the 1950's (I don't know if it was launched by K6JSS) suggested defining 50 watts d-c input as QRP. It's no coincidence that was about the normal power of most CW/Phone rigs running a 6146 or 807 in the final - both extremely popular in homebrew and commercial

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-08-01 Thread Edward R. Cole
Performance is all about SNR and your patience quotient. I have checked into the Elecrafter 20m SSB Net many times now running my K3/10 with about 16w output. I never calibrated the transmitter output and that was what its max output is on 20m. It drops to 8w on 10m 6m. I'm sure others were

[Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-07-31 Thread vicki glover
Until I built my K2 (7186) I had no idea that dx on 15 watts was even possible. I have been running QRO for a couple of years and making the contacts, but getting alot of these same contacts (Sweeden, Hungary, Lithuania) on 15 watts with a radio I built is hard to top. Only been running this

Re: [Elecraft] DX on 15 watts

2011-07-31 Thread Dave Sergeant
On 31 Jul 2011 at 22:07, vicki glover wrote: Until I built my K2 (7186) I had no idea that dx on 15 watts was even possible. I have been running QRO for a couple of years and making the contacts, but getting alot of these same contacts (Sweeden, Hungary, Lithuania) on 15 watts with a radio I