Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-04 Thread Mooneer Salem
I actually built one from an Arduino before. It's accurate within milliseconds (which is enough for JT65), but I'm sure it could be made better. (Source code at https://github.com/tmiw/arduino-ntpd if interested.) -Mooneer KG6AOV On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Ben Hall kd5...@kd5byb.net wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-04 Thread Paul Meier
I checked the time on my kx3 last night. After 5 weeks it hasn't changed or maybe a few seconds. Did I get the bad one out of the batch! Paul K7PM On Tuesday, December 3, 2013, Edward R Cole kl...@acsalaska.net wrote: Not sure how all this commentary on computer time applies to the topic title.

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-04 Thread Phil Hystad
I guess I have never understood why a clock on a radio was important. I guess unless you use it for automatic wake up or something. But, the one clock I wish I had was the clock for my old Hammarlund HQ-170A which needs a clock. I would never use it, it just needs to fill the space. I hate

Re: [Elecraft] [ELECRAFT] KX3 Accuracy of Clock

2013-12-04 Thread robertsm...@vom.com
Doing a little research I found a 32.768KHz surface mount crystal in the Newark Catalog that might be used to replace the crystal in the Battery/Clock module. It is an Epson MC306 and sells for $1.12 in the Newark catalog. The accuracy is 20PPM, which equates to about 10 minutes/year. Since

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-04 Thread Bill Gerth
Phil, I, for one, use the KX3 clock readout every time I'm on a summit in subzero wind chills and my wristwatch is buried inside my heavy parka. Paper and pencil logging is hard enough in adverse field conditions, but having the clock right on the face of the KX3 helps a lot! The KX3 clock

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-04 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-03 Thread Nate Bargmann
On Debian Linux and derivatives (Ubuntu and its variants, Mint and its variants, etc.) install the ntp package, sit back, and enjoy. The default configuration starts the daemon with a set of four NTP servers defined and no editing of a config file is necessary unless one has a local NTP server to

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-03 Thread pkhjr
The accuracy of the clock is very bad, but what he hey it only cost $60.. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KX3-Accuracy-of-clock-tp7581334p7581373.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-03 Thread John Oppenheimer
If the capability exists, it would be nice if the PIC24F16KA102, RCFGCAL: RTCC CALIBRATION AND CONFIGURATION REGISTER, CAL7:0: RTC Drift Calibration bits were configurable in a MUNU parameter. John KN5L On 12/03/2013 08:45 AM, pkhjr wrote: The accuracy of the clock is very bad, but what he hey

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-03 Thread Edward R Cole
Not sure how all this commentary on computer time applies to the topic title. My KX3 keeps perfect time since I did not buy the battery charger...no clock! My $12 wrist watch has about 1 second/year accuracy. The K3 clock drifts over a week or so, but is easily corrected using the Utility

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-03 Thread Ben Hall
For the very time-obsessed, build and operate your own GPS-controlled NTP time server as described here: http://open.konspyre.org/blog/2012/10/18/raspberry-pi-time-server/ Yes, I admit, I have one of these serving network time here in my shack or laboratory as my 8 year old son calls it. :)

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Stephen Prior
Mine will drift a few minutes over a few weeks, but I do agree that 4200s in one week points at a problem somewhere. 73 Stephen G4SJP On 2 December 2013 03:39, Mike Morrow k...@earthlink.net wrote: After setting the clock accurately last weekend, I did not think about checking it this

[Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Esquer Dave
: [Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock Message-ID: 529bbfd0.1090...@hawkins-zhu.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, Does anyone know how accurate is the clock on KX3? The reason I ask is because I activated a local SOTA peak last weekend and did another

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Todd Atkins
] [KX3} Accuracy of clock Message-ID: 529bbfd0.1090...@hawkins-zhu.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi all, Does anyone know how accurate is the clock on KX3? The reason I ask is because I activated a local SOTA peak last weekend and did another peak

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Fred Jensen
Actually ... atomic clocks such as the UTC one hanging on the wall of my shack [that I won at radio club raffle] don't poll 10MHz. They listen for WWVB on 60KHz, which mine hears only at night here in CA. WWVB broadcasts a continuous IRIG-H time code with a somewhat obscure AM modulation

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Walter Underwood
The KX3 Utility could estimate the clock adjustment, if it is the only thing that sets the clock. It knows the time it was last set and can measure the drift. wunder K6WRU On Dec 2, 2013, at 3:43 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote: Actually ... atomic clocks such as the UTC one hanging

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Brendan Minish
Firmware that decoded the BCD encoded by wwv on HF would be a pretty neat party trick for a portable rig though ;-) On Mon, 2013-12-02 at 15:49 -0800, Walter Underwood wrote: The KX3 Utility could estimate the clock adjustment, if it is the only thing that sets the clock. It knows the time

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/2/2013 3:43 PM, Fred Jensen wrote: I volunteer at the local blood bank and recording times is important to the documentation of the process. Consequently, they installed atomic clocks, our little center has 5 of them, not all the same mfr, scattered around to be visible to the staff.

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Don Wilhelm
For those Windows users who wish to keep their computer clocks accurate, I would suggest Atomic Clock Sync - http://www.download366.com/atomic-clock-sync?utm_source=bingutm_medium=cpcutm_campaign=366_USA_en_longtail_Gestoresutm_content=Atomic-Clock-Syncutm_term=Atomic%20Clock%20Sync I have

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Walter Underwood
That page says there is a built-in way to keep your clock synced, but it is hard to find. Why not just walk people through the documentation? In Windows Vista or later, you get a conforming implementation of NTP. Earlier Windows versions are broken, even though I was using NTP with no problems

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Matt Zilmer
Here is another excellent Windows SNTP client, also free: http://www.thinkman.com/dimension4/ matt W6NIA On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 23:05:27 -0500, you wrote: For those Windows users who wish to keep their computer clocks accurate, I would suggest Atomic Clock Sync -

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/2/2013 8:05 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: For those Windows users who wish to keep their computer clocks accurate, I would suggest Atomic Clock Sync - VIPRE Anti-phishing removed a known bad URL from your email message. It was deleted or quarantined and replaced with this message. I have

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Rick Bates
Even the native Win7 implementation is defective, updating only once every few days and not using the differences to make corrections between updates. Since I run HRD (running 24/7) and it has an NTP client in the DM780 program, I use that. But I will look at what the others have posted too.

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Phil Kane
On 12/2/2013 8:19 PM, Walter Underwood wrote: That page says there is a built-in way to keep your clock synced, but it is hard to find. Why not just walk people through the documentation? Try this: 1. Start the *Registry Editor* 2. Go to *HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \ SYSTEM \ CurrentControlSet

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Accuracy of clock

2013-12-02 Thread Walter Underwood
On a Mac, open System Preferences, click on the Date Time pane, and check the box for Set date and time automatically. On Unix, read the appropriate RFCs and man pages. For extra credit, search the web for ntp groper and see what I was doing twenty years ago. wunder K6WRU On Dec 2, 2013, at

[Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock

2013-12-01 Thread Gary Hawkins
Hi all, Does anyone know how accurate is the clock on KX3? The reason I ask is because I activated a local SOTA peak last weekend and did another peak this weekend. After setting the clock accurately last weekend, I did not think about checking it this weekend but half way through this

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock

2013-12-01 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gary, I can't answer for the accuracy of the clock, but if I depended on the accuracy of the clock, I would set it just prior to any outing. The short term accuracy should be sufficient for logging, but the long term accuracy may not be so great. Compare it to a computer clock. There is a

[Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock

2013-12-01 Thread Arno Dienhart
Your deviation appears to be WAY off! Something else must have caused this that is different from the normal deviation. E.g., it has probably been a couple months since I reset my clock and it is about 30 seconds fast now. Still annoying when you need it to be precise. But then, Don has a

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock

2013-12-01 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
: [Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock Gary, I can't answer for the accuracy of the clock, but if I depended on the accuracy of the clock, I would set it just prior to any outing. The short term accuracy should be sufficient for logging, but the long term accuracy may not be so great. Compare

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3} Accuracy of clock

2013-12-01 Thread Mike Morrow
After setting the clock accurately last weekend, I did not think about checking it this weekend but half way through this weekend's activation I noticed my UTC time setting was 1hr and 17 mins off! While it was easy enough to correct the log, is the clock expected to drift this much in a