Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-05-03 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
All of that heat is produced by RF heating the core instead of being radiated. It's all a matter of what you want to do with your RF :-) One concern is the curie temperature - that temperature where the properties of the core change dramatically. In an antenna matching network (a.k.a. tuner) the

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-05-03 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ken, When you do the research and math, worth bearing in mind that powdered iron (and ferrite) cores can generate intermodulation products. Usually this problem will affect the receive performance of an antenna matching network, or a receiver's front end filters, if exposed to strong signals

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-05-01 Thread Ken Alexander
From: Ken Alexander k.alexan...@rogers.com To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 11:14:33 AM Subject: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question Folks, Given that inductors on toroid cores are used extensively in autotuners, is there any reason (assuming I choose

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-05-01 Thread Ignacy
MFJ-902 tuner uses a single toroid with taps. The toroid becomes hot on some frequencies with 100W but survives. I guess losses are small compared to convenience of a very small unit. From what I understand, the iron cores can have Q in excess of 300 if they are below saturation. How much will

[Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-04-30 Thread Ken Alexander
Folks, Given that inductors on toroid cores are used extensively in autotuners, is there any reason (assuming I choose the right size core, made of the correct material for the application and winding it with the right size wire) for not using one as a base loading inductor on a vertical

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-04-30 Thread Fred Townsend
-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Ken Alexander Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 8:15 AM To: Elecraft Subject: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question Folks, Given that inductors on toroid cores are used extensively in autotuners, is there any reason (assuming I choose the right size core, made

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Wiley
Ken - A toroidal inductor should work fine, it is understood that the core must be of the proper material and size to handle the expected power and frequency range. Keep in mind that many of the automatic tuners use toroidal inductors in their design. There is some advantage to

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-04-30 Thread Phil Debbie Salas
Here's a program that will let you compare toroid vs air core losses: http://www.dl5swb.de/html/mini_ring_core_calculator.htm Phil - AD5X __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] Loading inductor Question

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Brown
On 4/30/2012 8:14 AM, Ken Alexander wrote: Any down side to doing this? Suitable core material is crucial here. The core materials used for RFI suppression (including those used for common mode transmitting chokes) work by adding lots of loss into the common mode circuit because they are