Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-23 Thread w6jd
Force 12 sells a version of its Sigma 5 multi-band verical dipole with a TV antenna on top. Also a reinforced version for patios that allows you to hang flower pots from it. Standard disclaimers. Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Stuart Rohre [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-23 Thread Phil Kane
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:53:26 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Indeed. Irrespective of PRB 1, FCC has separately ruled AGAINST homeowner associations in that they cannot legislate to prevent you having an outdoor TV antenna. A little thing called freedom of speech and press. Put up a vertical

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-23 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mar 23, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Rich Lentz wrote: It seems to me that all of you are forgetting something very important! If you have CCRs or covenants preventing you from putting up an antenna there isn't much you can do about it! YOU have signed on the dotted line saying that you will

[Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Raymond Albers
Has anyone had any experience loading an aluminum ridge vent as an antenna?? We just bought a second home, which is lovely (definition: my wife is thrilled with it!) but has restrictive covenants - no outside antennas. Grrr. I have mounted an ATU in the attic and attached a 1:1 balun

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Craig D. Smith
Your idea sounds promising, Ray. I haven't used a ridge vent, but my current main stealth antenna is a piece of wire lying directly on the roof shingles along the roof ridge. I was concerned about the effects of rain/snow, but that hasn't been a problem. My wire is insulated, but occasionally

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ray, The ridgevent is not likely to be a continuous conductor. It would work fine if you bonded all the sections together - in dry weather that is - when it gets wet, the characteristics are likely to change because there will be conductivity to the shingles as well. An idea... What is the

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Ray K2HYD wrote: We just bought a second home, which is lovely (definition: my wife is thrilled with it!) but has restrictive covenants - no outside antennas. Grrr. I have mounted an ATU in the attic and attached a 1:1 balun directly to it, with about 25 ft of wire going out from each side

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Vic K2VCO
Raymond Albers wrote: I have mounted an ATU in the attic and attached a 1:1 balun directly to it, with about 25 ft of wire going out from each side - in other words, a non-resonant dipole - all inside the attic. It loads OK on all bands 80 thru 10 and I've made several decent contacts with it.

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Joe-aa4nn
Or fold the ends back toward the feedpoint. Make yourself a linear loaded dipole that way. Feed in center with 450 ohm twin lead. A starting point for length of wire, including the folded back part, around 66 feet (33 ft each side). de Joe, aa4nn

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Dan Barker
Reread your CCRs. Maybe they do allow TV antennas. You probably have neighboors who use Satellite for TV. Just say you have HDTV and run a UHF Yagi up a pole. Tell them it's for HD, but insulate the bottom. Instant top-hat vertical! YMMV, but how can they say no TV? That's un-Americang. Dan /

Fw: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Gregg R. Lengling
, Un-Retired K2/100 SN 3075 http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org - Original Message - From: Dan Barker [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:41 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna? Reread your CCRs. Maybe they do allow TV antennas

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mar 22, 2006, at 8:41 AM, Dan Barker wrote: Reread your CCRs. Maybe they do allow TV antennas. You probably have neighboors who use Satellite for TV. Just say you have HDTV and run a UHF Yagi up a pole. Tell them it's for HD, but insulate the bottom. Instant top-hat vertical! Like

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Bob Nielsen
On Mar 22, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Gregg R. Lengling wrote: You might want to read about the reaffirmations about PRB-1 on the FCC website. PRB-1 also applies to CCR's, HomeOwner Assoc. ect. Find it here and read it...you will be pleasantly suprised.

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gregg, That was what the petition requested ... but if you read nearer the bottom, the request was denied. Now, I do understand that some of the states have legislation or are considering legislation that will apply the same principles as PRB-1 to CCRs and HOA rules - encourage your state

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Considering equivalent lengths, bending the sections of a doublet more than 90 degrees significantly reduces the effect of the additional length of wire. Folding the wire back on itself a few inches from the original radiator has the effect of lengthening the radiator only slightly. RF flows over

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Stuart Rohre
Indeed. Irrespective of PRB 1, FCC has separately ruled AGAINST homeowner associations in that they cannot legislate to prevent you having an outdoor TV antenna. A little thing called freedom of speech and press. Put up a vertical with a dummy (or real) TV antenna atop it. Might broadband

Re: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Stuart Rohre
A more effective antenna is to attach needed length to the ends of ridge vent and run them at right angles to it down the gable. Paint to hide them or tuck under edge of non metallic shingles. Thus you create a Z antenna. Note many ridge vents today are plastic, so this might not work unless

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Stuart K5KVH wrote: ...FCC has separately ruled AGAINST homeowner associations in that they cannot legislate to prevent you having an outdoor TV antenna. A little thing called freedom of speech and press. Put up a vertical with a dummy (or real) TV antenna atop it

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Darwin, Keith
It would seem to me that if a TV antenna on a mast with guy wires is permitted, then a multiband vertical with no guy wires would be viewed as an improvement and would be even more permitted. Of course that assumes these CCR's have some rational thought behind them - which is a stretch! When I

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:41:47 -0500, Dan Barker wrote: Reread your CCRs. Maybe they do allow TV antennas. Federal law pre-empts CCR provisions or HOA regulations that proscribe TV or satellite-dish antennas only when they are being used as described below. You probably have neighboors who

Re: Fw: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Phil Kane
On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 10:51:35 -0600, Gregg R. Lengling wrote: You might want to read about the reaffirmations about PRB-1 on the FCC website. PRB-1 also applies to CCR's, HomeOwner Assoc. ect. Find it here and read it...you will be pleasantly suprised. Sorry, but YOU will be unpleasantly

RE: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna?

2006-03-22 Thread Kevin Shaw
] On Behalf Of Raymond Albers Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 10:24 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] ridge vent as antenna? Has anyone had any experience loading an aluminum ridge vent as an antenna?? We just bought a second home, which is lovely (definition: my wife