Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-27 Thread Dave Andrus
What also doesn't get much weight, at least for me, are the bad eHam reviews that are themselves bad. They often show the reviewer has poor command of such things as, say, the english language, his keyboard (love those all caps reviews!), his emotions, etc. Far too many of these: It

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-27 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
I should quit now, but I just realized that a bad review is a good thing in one respect, it shows that if you get a bad radio, you're not alone. There's probably TWO out there. :) Honestly, I doubt all the radios are working at the time they're received, but if you listen to some of the goings

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-26 Thread Joseph M. Durnal
When it comes to reviews, I tend to focus on the bad ones as the good ones could simply represent someones feeling that they spent plenty of money on something, it must be good. When it comes to ham gear, a bad review without a call sign doesn't get much weight. I suppose the reviewer in this

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 03:29:43 EST on Sun 24 Feb 2008 Bob DeHaney (WU5T/DJ0MBC) wrote ... The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Ian J Maude
Bob DeHaney wrote: The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high IMD products. I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? I am always suspicious of

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Simon Brown (HB9DRV)
I think he's getting RF into his installation, maybe through the power cabling? I wonder whether his is driving an after-burner? I do not suspect a malicious posting - even with the best will in the world things can go wrong. Simon Brown, HB9DRV

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Brett Howard
I believe the closest English proverb would be Trust but verify. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of paolo.gramigna Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 12:55 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: R: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Toby Deinhardt
Hi Bob, I have yet to hear a K3 but no one else has noticed such problems? A small yes and a big no. Several BCC members (DD5FZ, DL6RAI, DK4YJ, DG7RO usw.) feel that the speech processor is not as effective as it could be and that for contesting the modulation is too nice and needs more

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread David Cutter
For a new rig to be so bad, he will presumably want it repaired. My first thought would be to email Elecraft not Eham. David G3UNA The reviewer (Solardx, no call sign) gives a very bad transmitter (SSB) review. He claims lots of splatter and ineffective speech processing as well as high

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bill W4ZV
Simon Brown (HB9DRV) wrote: I think he's getting RF into his installation, maybe through the power cabling? I wonder whether his is driving an after-burner? I do not suspect a malicious posting - even with the best will in the world things can go wrong. My first thought is RF

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Scott
Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting reviews that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think the reviews would be worth alot more on Eham if people actually waiting 6

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bill W4ZV
Gary Scott-4 wrote: Eham reviews are a great idea ,But the problem is folks are posting reviews that either just got the product ,and as I have seen in one product a few months ago did not even own the product they were commenting on.I think the reviews would be worth alot more on

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Gary Hvizdak
At 08:56:21 EST on Sun 24 Feb 2008 Paul Ferguson (K5ESW) wrote ... ... Surely there are others out there with a K3 and the equipment necessary to repeat his tests. The outcome of the tests will determine if Solardx's results are typical. I await the results while I wait for my K3 (wave 3).

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread S Sacco
The problem with eHam reviews is not the reviews themselves, but that folks get too caught up in caring about other people's mostly subject impressions/opinions. Remember: Everyone's entitled to an opinion, but that doesn't mean that everyone's opinion should be given equal weight. Now, back to

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Paul Ferguson
The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. Surely there are others out there with a K3 and the equipment necessary to repeat his tests. The outcome of the tests will determine if Solardx's results are typical. I await the results while I wait for my K3 (wave 3). 73,

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 2/24/08 8:57:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. With all due respect We don't know if the reviewer has a problem K3 or a problem test setup. For that matter, we don't know if the

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Hisashi T Fujinaka
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 2/24/08 8:57:10 AM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The reviewer (Solardx) gives the results of a test he ran on his K3. Solardx is completely anonymous - no call, no name, no K3 serial number. Yet his rating

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread AD6XY - Mike
My goodness - this is absolutely terrible. Someone posts an honest review of their experience and loads of people attack them for criticising their baby by not giving it full marks? I really expected more of the Elecraft community. Perhaps the transmitter is faulty - it is entirely possible the

RE: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Greg
the standoff will avoid any problem even if the enamal is worn. 73 Greg AB7R -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of S Sacco Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 6:23 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread W6NEK
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 10:38 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM My goodness - this is absolutely terrible. Someone posts an honest review of their experience and loads of people attack them for criticising their baby by not giving it full marks? I really expected more

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bruce Bowman
I have no doubt that Elecraft will make-right anything that is wrong with hardware they delivered whether to Solardx or any other owner. The important point, assuming the failure info is right, is that either a unit got thru final test that shouldn't have, or a unit failed in transit. Yeah,

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Bill NY9H
as far as audio crunch I agree the current iteration is not as penetrating as a good RF clipper could give it albeit it IS distortion but deem favorable by many. KEY WORK : CURRENT. Hard to believe that solardx contributes to Eham , yet is not on the reflector. Perhaps by

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Tom Hammond
Watch out Don... he might just take you up on your offer! 73, Tom N0SS At 13:26 02/24/2008, Don Rasmussen wrote: Hisashi - you can have my K3. Now that it no longer has a perfect score on eHAM, the joy of ownership has been tarnished forever for me. Would you like me to retrieve it from the

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread N2EY
In a message dated 2/24/08 1:40:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Someone posts an honest review of their experience and loads of people attack them for criticising their baby by not giving it full marks? No. The criticism is that someone is posting an anonymous review

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread AD6XY - Mike
Funny isn't it. I suggest that we should not put down people who don't like what we do and I become attacked myself by many Emails. -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Latest-K3-Review-on-EHAM-tp15661902p15669831.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Toby Deinhardt
We are a opening a sanctuary for unwanted and unloved K3s... Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled K3s... vy 73 de toby Tom Hammond wrote: Watch out Don... he might just take you up on your offer! 73, Tom N0SS At 13:26 02/24/2008, Don Rasmussen wrote: Hisashi - you can have my K3.

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Alexander Ponomarenko
The speech processor, mic gain and ALC circuits need some design attention. The transmitter in the K3 is very poor. The RF speech processor produces a lot of IMD on the signal. It's a raspy and nasty kind of product that bleeds from the transmit signal. What I was hearing was not pleasant. The

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread DW Holtman
PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2008 2:47 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM Funny isn't it. I suggest that we should not put down people who don't like what we do and I become attacked myself by many Emails. -- View this message in context

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Tom AK2B
There are over 475 K3's sold and only 30 reviews on eHam. If this one bad review bothers you, write your own! Tom, AK2B -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3-Latest-K3-Review-on-EHAM-tp15661902p15671173.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread w6jd
Anyone who has spent anytime at all listening to the VP6DX operaton knows that solardx's eham review is either bogus or he happened to get a bad radio. I suspect he is an ICOM operative. Doug W6JD -- Original message -- From: Tom AK2B [EMAIL PROTECTED] There are over

Re: [Elecraft] K3-Latest K3 Review on EHAM

2008-02-24 Thread Matt Zilmer
I was wondering when someone would bring that possibility up... It happens all the time. matt, W6NIA On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 00:19:32 +, you wrote: Anyone who has spent anytime at all listening to the VP6DX operaton knows that solardx's eham review is either bogus or he happened to get a bad