I once owned a KWM-1. I bought it "surplus" from a company that was selling
aircraft parts cannibalized from Air Force planes being cut up at DMAFB's "Bone
Yard." I believe it was out of an RB-47.
RB-47s were overflying the USSR, with aircrews being lost, long before Gary
Powers was shot
st signals. The audio is
distorted and filtering is poor. Collins' last hurrah was a dud.73,Ed W0YK
Original message From: Fred Jensen Date:
3/30/22 18:40 (GMT-08:00) To: Scott Manthe Cc:
Elecraft List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and
Delivery Delays There's not a lot on the web r
t;> on behalf of Andrew Moore
> mailto:andrew.n...@gmail.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 1:24 PM
> To: Fred Jensen mailto:k6dg...@gmail.com>>
> Cc: Elecraft mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Delivery Delays
>
>>
Thought I’d drop this in here before the thread is closed …
http://collinsradio.org/archives/manuals/KWM-380_Manual_10-79.pdf
-- 73 de Mike Flowers, K6MKF, NCDXC - "It's about DX!"
> On Mar 30, 2022, at 6:40 PM, Fred Jensen wrote:
>
> There's not a lot on the web re: KWM-380 except for
* On 2022 30 Mar 20:40 -0500, Fred Jensen wrote:
> There's not a lot on the web re: KWM-380 except for sales. I recall little
> about it except that it was very expensive for the time. I think the KWM-2
> went for about $1,500 new? in the 60's, that would be about $15,000 in
> today's money,
There's not a lot on the web re: KWM-380 except for sales. I recall
little about it except that it was very expensive for the time. I think
the KWM-2 went for about $1,500 new? in the 60's, that would be about
$15,000 in today's money, although it wouldn't be an attractive
transceiver in
Back in the late 70s or early 80's, when I was a teenager and a "lowly"
Technician, one of my teenager Technician friends won a KWM-380 at the
Cedar Rapids hamfest. The old-timers were not amused. I'd have preferred
to win the radio, but barring that, seeing the reaction of those old
guys to a
craft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on
behalf of Andrew Moore
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2022 1:24 PM
To: Fred Jensen
Cc: Elecraft
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 and Delivery Delays
>> memories of one incredibly expensive Raytheon-Collins HF transceiver
>> [KWM-380? or something like that] be
>> memories of one incredibly expensive Raytheon-Collins HF transceiver
>> [KWM-380? or something like that] before the end.
I think that was it, the KWM-380, and I remember people describing it as
such when I saw it at W4VSV when I got my ticket. Made my first QSO on it!
Andrew NV1B
..
On
and IF the ORION worked as it should have, out of the gate ... with a
decent GUI ( & working) ,, they might be alive today.
I even drove down to their hamfest to look at the working ORION,,,
which was out from the front demo tent. Someone had plugged in
headphones and the set shutdown,,back
On 3/30/2022 10:40 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
I don't know why Ten-Tec left, they had a very loyal and well deserved
following, but running a business is really complex, and they expired
well before COVID became a word. To each his own.
Ten Tec also depended on commercial and military biz. Their
I worked for a company that was bought out by Raytheon. I couldn't retire soon
enough.
Wes N7WS
On 3/30/2022 10:50 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Correct, they're both "R" companies and at my age, that's enough to confuse
them. I still don't know what precipitated the demise of Ten-Tec but I'm
It was a no-brainer for me to choose Elecraft as my equipment maker of
choice when I entered the hobby.
Took a long time and some bit of sacrifice to do so, but I finally got
my K3s, et al. FULLY optioned right before the parts started getting scarce.
Love ALL my Elecraft gear!
Clay E.
It is supposed to be in the signature
Be well!
Clay E. Autery, Jr.
KY5G
On 3/30/2022 12:03 PM, Wes wrote:
I didn't find his post out of line. His callsign is in his email address.
Wes N7WS
On 3/30/2022 9:49 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
Doug,
You last response makes you come off like a
Correct, they're both "R" companies and at my age, that's enough to
confuse them. I still don't know what precipitated the demise of
Ten-Tec but I'm pretty sure it wasn't a pandemic.
73,
Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
Sparks NV DM09dn
Washoe County
Wes wrote on 3/30/2022 10:45 AM:
IIRC, Rockwell,
IIRC, Rockwell, not Raytheon.
On 3/30/2022 10:40 AM, Fred Jensen wrote:
Ummm ... Art Collins had a very large military business in addition to a small
amateur one, and sold his company to Raytheon who, it turned out, had little
interest in building amateur gear. The decision to leave the
Ummm ... Art Collins had a very large military business in addition to a
small amateur one, and sold his company to Raytheon who, it turned out,
had little interest in building amateur gear. The decision to leave the
market was voluntary, although I have vague memories of one incredibly
Regardless of the naysayers-I just took delivery of my K4D,which indeed took a
while,but it’s well worth the wait. Of course I drank the Elecraft koolaid
before there was a company. Built the NC 40;Sierra and SST-all designed by
Wayne and Eric. Then the K2,KX1,2 and 3. I still use all of those
I didn't find his post out of line. His callsign is in his email address.
Wes N7WS
On 3/30/2022 9:49 AM, Clay Autery wrote:
Doug,
You last response makes you come off like a gigantic "procreation tool".
I would like to think that this is not the case. Perhaps you would consider
Doug,
You last response makes you come off like a gigantic "procreation tool".
I would like to think that this is not the case. Perhaps you would
consider "considering" your responses more completely from here forward.
And for ALL... It is, and has always been, customary to include your
So you must be part of the topic mafia - those who are too lazy to use the
delete key for topics they have no interest in or more likely topics which
hurt their feelings.
Doug
Free Climbing - The ultimate test of strength and technique.
-Original Message-
Please do not start the
And I believe that each one of us that is on the list knows that. I believe
our philosophy is we know there's at least a dozen OK radios out there, but
we all picked Elecraft even though at this time due the shortages, there's
a long wait. But we loyal and we know Elecraft is ahead of the game.
I'm not sure how big a company Flex is, but Elecraft is a small one doing a
great design and development and putting out some amazing products, while
having limited resources. A fair comparison might be against a company in a
similar position. Again, not saying Flex isn't (I don't know). Certainly
Please do not start the Elecraft bashing again please, if you do not like
the way Elecraft works with all of us.
I wish you the best with your Flex 6600M and amplifier and that you have
all the fun with it as we are having with ours.
73's
Paul Van Dyke
K4D #76
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