Yes, Doug, I remember doing that, thanks for reminding me, it's very good
practice.
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From: GM0ELP douglas.maxw...@virgin.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Suggested techniques for teaching CW?
1)
In a recent message, JIM DAVIS nn...@astound.net wrote ...
If you've ever heard alot of the newer guys on the air their
electrical knowledge and operating
practices are rather lacking (even lacking the knowledge
of something as BASIC as Ohm's Laws), now that's BAD!!!
At least the vast
W7GJ, Lance wrote:
I am using Firmware release 3.11, and I notice - on 6m at least - the rig
automatically switches modes as I move from one part of the band to the
other, and
when I tune down outside of the band. And sometimes it just switches
modes even
while I am not tuning past
Hi Thomas,
AM wide limit is about 4,2kHz but this equals roughly 8,4kHz BW in a
conventional receiver (measuring carrier and 2 flanks within the filter)
I personally think even for pleasant BC receiving (without 5kHz
next-channel-heterodynes), future AM-sync or ESSB this should be wide
enough.
Using firmware release 3.11 (and it seemed, with 2.78 also) I notice a drop
off in power on SSB after a couple seconds, which then stabilizes at a lower
level for the duration. The first few seconds of the first transmission
seem to be at full output, judging by the amplifier output, around 1200W
What in the world does this have to do with Elecraft radio?
Sonny...NN8K
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Pratt
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 2:42 AM
To: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] My
Anyone have a Proset-K2 they are no longer in need of?
NE4W at arrl dawt net
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Paul Fletcher wrote:
W7GJ, Lance wrote:
I am using Firmware release 3.11, and I notice - on 6m at least - the rig
automatically switches modes as I move from one part of the band to the
other, and
when I tune down outside of the band. And sometimes it just switches
modes even
while
JIM DAVIS wrote:
There's nothing wrong with your attitude ! In fact I agree with it
completely, as it seems
that the people that are getting into the hobby recently really don't know
how to fully utilize
their equipment nor their antenna arrays.
What amateur radio needs is more people
The 6M Spring Sprint is this evening,
http://www.sysadnet.com/vhfsprintrules.htm
, so get that K3 on 6M and have some fun. the Sprint runs this
evening from 2300Z May 9 to 0300Z May 10. You will need to exchange
your grid square, a close approximation which you can find on QRZ.com.
It
Elecraft is an Amateur Radio equipment manufacturer. This is an Elecraft
reflector/forum where Amateur Radio equipment, primarily but not always
Elecraft, related issues are discussed. A poster asked what might be
construed as a overly elementary question with regard to said poster's
license
The frequency is 3630 KHz plus or minus the QRM.
The new start time is 0900 hours local (0800 UTC) in an effort
to try and beat the deteriorating summer band conditions.
If the earlier start time doesn't do the trick, I think it might
be time to cease the net until the autumn.
73 Dave, G4AON
I think some of you old timers are missing the point of generational
changes. I agree that there is no excuse for laziness however, times have
changed in the world of technologies. You old timers were able to make a
respectable livelihood at circuit/component level designing, testing and
I certainly agree with you Brendan. If we are going to keep this avocation
healthy we must share knowledge whenever we can. I was one of the ones
attacked by this accusation of being recently licensed and never learning
anything again. I hope that this ridiculous thread will die soon
Generalizations are usually baseless...
This Old Timer - fully licensed in 1964 - helped write a large amount of the
operating system for one of the largest real-time computer systems still in
service at many organizations...
My first license required my drawing a workable circuit for a
Brendan,
You are perfectly correct we need to freely share the information we
have with newcomers to the hobby.
OTOH, since we are all supposed to have passed an exam which indicates
we have at least some understanding of the fundamentals of radio and
electronics. So I do believe we should be
Agreed. It is funny. If you go back and look at very old articles in
QST, you will find that each generation of hams states how much easier
the ones that came behind have it. Its human nature.
The other piece of the puzzle is the difference between book learning,
and applying something that
Dave, I was first licensed in 1960 when the General class license had full
privileges and the exam was not that difficult for a fifteen year old at the
time. We old timers from the year of the blue snow and when buffalo roamed
should not be overly critical. Not that your were. It is also a
THANKS JAMES. The new moxon is built and up at 30ft. or so. This should be
a good test if it is working properly...
cleve/W5CEM
EM12??(gotta go find the last two)
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View this message in context:
http://n2.nabble.com/Put-your-K3-on-6M-tonight-tp2850314p2851182.html
Sent from the Elecraft
I recently put together a DL1 dummy load and W1 wattmeter.
I have the DL1 connected to my KX1 through the W1. I have the W1 connected
to a computer using the W1 software. I have a significant difference between
the power reading from the W1 and the power calculated from the voltage
measured on
I recently put together a DL1 dummy load and W1 wattmeter.
I have the DL1 connected to my KX1 through the W1. I have the W1 connected
to a computer using the W1 software. I have a significant difference between
the power reading from the W1 and the power calculated from the voltage
measured on
Last year about this time, Duffy shamed me into building a
6 meter Moxon in anticipation of this sprint event. It
wasn't really very hard to build, and it works great! I
even took it up our 9000 ft. nearby mountain and operated as
a rover. I'm sorely tempted to do the same thing again,
I was first licensed just three weeks short of my 11th birthday in 1958
(KN4ZZR), and I have been (more or less) actively involved in amateur radio
ever since.
I have seen a lot of change in that time, but the one constant that has always
amazed me is the level of anger among a certain
Hi Cleve,
It -may- be EM12ox -but- since your QRZ address is a
PO box it's likely computed to somewhere -other- than
your actual location. It would be a rare case where the
last twodigits would be of importance for the sake of
the VUCC award.
I've found that many QRZ.com grids are not correct,
Very well said Dan, I could not agree with you more.
Now everyone, let's please end this thread and get on with our lives.
- Original Message -
From: Dan Allen dl...@bellsouth.net
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2009 12:56:38 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Brian,
Unless you used a very accurate wattmeter to calibrate the W1, I would
believe the DL1.
HOWEVER: The formula in the DL1 manual is not correct. 8.97 volts
measured from the DL1 properly indicates 3.44 watts.
The correct formula for the DL1 is (Vdmm + Vdiode)^2/25. You can
measure the
If you're not sure of your own grid square, or want to know someone
else's, or want to know where a particular grid square is, you might try
this free Google Maps overlay from F6FVY:
http://f6fvy.free.fr/qthLocator/fullScreen.php
It will work either way ... click on the map to find a grid
Dan and others:
Dan's insights are wise on a number of levels, and the ham community
would do well to heed them.
When I hear all this hand wringing about dumbing down I am reminded of
the Eqyptologist who after years of effort translated a document from
the ancient heiroglyphics found that it
I monitor 6m constantly while on low bands with the Second receiver in the
K3.
73,
Bill
K9YEQ
K2 #35; KX1 #35; K3 #1744; mini mods
ATS-3B
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Subject: [Elecraft] Put your K3 on 6M tonight
The 6M Spring Sprint is this evening,
Dave, NM4M wrote:
QST, you will find that each generation of hams states how much easier
the ones that came behind have it. Its human nature.
-
What a Ham needs to know to put a rig on the air today requires only a tiny
part of the technical knowledge that past
I actually remember hearing the CQs in the 1960s. There was only one guy that
did it as far as I know. He had a two letter W call and was located in
Arizona. He camped on 20 meter SSB. The call was
CQ old timer, no Ks, no WAs, no Kids, no Lids, no Space Cadets. Since I had a
K call, was
Thanks Don.
The only calibration I did for the W1 was the procedure in the manual.
Bryan, Zl1NI
Brian,
Unless you used a very accurate wattmeter to calibrate the W1, I
would
believe the DL1.
HOWEVER: The formula in the DL1 manual is not correct. 8.97 volts
measured from the DL1
http://buffalokilowattbookends.blogharbor.com/_attachments/2819416/W2OY%20(calling%20CQ).mp3
Hear a recording of one of the old old timers. I guess each coast had at
least one.
Can we let this thread slip into the ether?
WILLIS COOKE wrote:
I actually remember hearing the CQs in the 1960s.
James Duffey wrote:
The 6M Spring Sprint is this evening,
http://www.sysadnet.com/vhfsprintrules.htm
, so get that K3 on 6M and have some fun. the Sprint runs this
evening from 2300Z May 9 to 0300Z May 10. You will need to exchange
your grid square, a close approximation which you
Willis,
You are thinking of Mike, W2OY, renound for his classic CQs. I called him
with my WA3 call and actually had a nice QSO. He was a character and yes is
now an SK. Passaed at the top of his very high telephone pole fixing an
antenna.
73, Bob K3UL
On 5/9/2009 1:35 PM, Stephen W. Kercel wrote:
Despite having passed the commercial Second Class CW back when
you still had to draw schematics, the Amateur Extra back when
there were both code receiving and sending tests (back in the
day, if you took the test from Angelo Ditty in the Atlanta
Grid squares on QRZ.com (unless corrected by the individual user) are computed
on the basis of your ZIP code. You should regard them as approximations only,
and go into QRZ and correct your long/lat coordinates as Ken did.
Bill W5WVO
Ken Kopp wrote:
Hi Cleve,
It -may- be EM12ox -but- since
It is still a little in advance of the usual start of the summer sporadic-E
season, so it is unlikely (though possible) that 6 meters will be open anywhere
tonight. (Strange timing for a 6-meter contest; don't really get it. Why not
wait for a couple more weeks when the band is more likely to
At 06:17 PM 05/09/09, Bob Garrett wrote:
Willis,
You are thinking of Mike, W2OY, renound for his classic
CQs. Passaed at the top of his very high telephone pole fixing an
antenna.
One story that circulates is that he was so well loved by his
neighbors, they let him hang upside down up on the
At 04:10 PM 05/09/09, k...@comcast.net wrote:
Very well said Dan, I could not agree with you more.
Now everyone, let's please end this thread and get on with our lives.
But only after we comment to or about Dan and his post.
After all, it's fair game to introduce noise into the channel by
Sieve,
Browbeating the ignorant for their ignorance, either as a class
or as specific individuals does nothing to advance ham radio,
and a good deal to retard it.
This attitude is not a matter of browbeating the ignorant for
their ignorance. It may be browbeating the self entitled for
Dear all,
I've recently noticed that if I leave the K3 on for some time (perhaps 10
minutes or more; I never verified), the VFO knob becomes inactive. In other
words, spinning it will not change the frequency unless another button is
pressed first. So far I've been able to un-freeze the VFO
Well, gosh. I thought all this was about people like me.
3 years ago I decided we wanted email on our boat while in the islands.
To me this meant HAM. Getting the equipment, setting up the boat, trying to
learn the stuff and the 5 wpm looked pretty daunting from the outside.
What if
That's OK Jeff. It's just a hobby. Some people take it way to
seriously, just like it was not a hobby. That's OK too. We can't all
be rocket scientists. I actually talk to people on ham radio about my
other hobbies. And about life in general. I think that helps us
understand people and cultures
I have always enjoyed Tony Laceys Nu-Morse Pro. It is the most
comprehensive training software that I have found. It can be found at
http://www.nu-ware.com/index.htm
Also fantastic is (if you can still find one) the AEA MM-3 Morse Machine,
which had a really cool QSO simulator. See it at
Well, I was all set to jump in with a question about microphones and my K2, but
the atmosphere around here seems a little too poisonous to be asking for help.
Maybe some other time. I'll just keep using CW for now...
73,
Ken Alexander, VE3HLS
(no impressive credentials or other
I had several ship inspections in Mobile, Ala with Amgelo Ditty doing the
inspections! He doesn't overlook anything!
I remember years ago when one Jerry Freeman came to the New Orleans FCC
office and played havoc with the CB'ers and a few hams in the area. He
liked to brag about his Johnson
You're right Ron. Most of us are appliance operators now. I still like
playiung with my small homebrew rigs and the TCS.
Only regret is I wished they'd kept at LEAST the 5 WPM requirement for
Amateur Extra. I got mine back in the early 60's when you had to do the 20
WPM test at the FCC's
Can we let this thread slip into the ether?
I've always been a tad fascinated by a request such as this. If a group of
individuals enjoy discussing a certain topic and a few others do not, is it
not just as easy for the few to just delete or skip that particular thread
rather than speak for
Only regret is I wished they'd kept at LEAST the 5 WPM requirement for
Amateur Extra.
Soundly seconded. I do believe that some must be prodded into giving CW a
try. Many would then discover how pleasurable it can be. Without even a
minimal requirement, many will never discover this.
Vy 73
Guys - We're drifting a little far afield. (Sort of like the recurring
no-code etc. threads.. ;-)
Lets end this thread for now.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator
Don Wilhelm wrote:
Brendan,
You are perfectly correct we need to freely share the information we
have with newcomers
Guys - must be a slow sunspot day... :-) This thread is ended too.
In general, please do not complain to the list. Send it to me instead.
Adding complaints on-list only stirs the pot and adds to the general
noise level.
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft List Moderator (who actually took a day off
Hi gang,
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (Sunday, 5/10/09) at 1800Z.
We will start at 14.316 MHz, and QSY if needed. The net control is in
western Oregon, but we will need a good east coast or midwest station to
relay a few west coast signals that may be too close to net control.
Good Evening,
I think our weather is very nice. Sunny, light wind, the smell of earth
drying after a few days of showers, and a temperature of 65 degrees. Not too
bad. So, I got my bicycle out and attempted to ride up the mountain. Kevin is
in sad shape! I can hike up the mountain but
Sheesh Ken. There's no more impressive credential around here than a call
sign like VE3HLS.
Don't forget what the delete key is for. Works just like the tuning knob
when you run into an insufferable bad operator on the air, HI!
Ron AC7AC
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Well, I was all set to jump
Hi Everybody;
Don just reminded me to check the math in the DL1 Manual and update it if
necessary. Good Idea!
I also got out the W1 and checked my K2 power output Vs the W1 and my
DVM voltage reading at the DL1 test points. They all read about the
same *within
10% but*
which reading would be
There is nothing worse than an unasked question. I teach many classes for
emergency communications. Every once in a while I get a comment from someone
about another person who did not understand something in my class. I tell the
person with whom I am speaking that I do not remember anyone
Ken;
I'm a little amazed at the mud slinging, one-upmanship of that group, too. My
Elmer, Towne Conover, W1QLT, likely SK by now, told me to never stop learning,
use my licenses as a vehicle to learn more, and pass it on, Finest hobby in
the world!.
Take a long look at the Heil
Bob,
The answer is - It all depends ... -- read on if you want the rest of
the story.
I constantly rely on the RF voltage produced across a known accurate 50
ohm resistor for my power measurement calculations, so that is the
method I depend on.
The W1 is quite accurate, but there is one
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