Well, there is P3 - the largest display, someone could image. And the
software could bring out there all needed information, alongwith analog
S-meter. Band buttons, mode buttons - there is also an easy solution.
Imagine a thiny box 1/2 x 1/2 x 10.7, the same style and paint as K3 -
there is a
Hello!
I am looking for some options for my K3. KAT3 Tuner, KDVR3 Digital Voice
Recorder, KTCXO3-1 TCXO, KXV3A RX Ant., IF Out and Xverter Interface
(last Version), KFL3A-2.8K 2.8 kHz, 8-pole filter, KFL3A-400 400 Hz,
narrow 8-pole filter, KFL3A-250 250 Hz, narrow 8-pole filter
I don't wish to re-ignite the RS232 vs USB connectivity debates which have
regularly appeared on the reflector
but some K3 owners may be interested in this product recently launched by
FTDI.
http://www.ftdichip.com/Documents/DataSheets/Modules/DS_DB9-USB-RS232.pdf
It is a USB/RS232 converter
This looks extremely cool. However, it doesn't appear that Mouser or
Digi-Key in the US are carrying it yet, so getting one-off quantities might
be problematic until the retail distribution chain catches up.
Obviously a possibility here for Elecraft to offer the KIO3 in either
version (RS-232
Larry,
See if this is it. The K3 uses the same connections as Kenwood.
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rg4wpw/date.html#kenwood
73, Mike NF4L
K6PJ wrote:
I have used the HEIL Proset with the IC microphone since I buught my K3 with
excellent results.
I decided I wanted a desk Mike so I thought
On Fri, 21 May 2010 11:56:44 +0100, you wrote:
If anyone does try it, I'd be interested in how they find this USB
conversion. Note that this will NOT
work with the K2 KIO2 as it is not a standard RS232 DB9 connector.
And if you do it on your K3, it will not work with the P3.
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OV1A Jens
Obviously a possibility here for Elecraft to offer the KIO3 in either
version (RS-232 or USB connector) as an ordering option, if they've a mind
to...
There are a few issues here:
1) Does the internal RS232 charge pump have harmonics in any Amateur
bands? Are they audible?
In the KIO3
Those making a mod of that nature to a K2 (or any other radio) take on a
new responsibility.
If anyone makes such a change and subsequently sells their K3, I would
hope that the sale would include a CD with the latest drivers for any OS
that could possibly be used with the K3.
Plain RS-232
Don't know if my PM got through, but to make it official - the CW-to-data bug
with the internal keyer is still in this beta. I didn't see anything in the
release notes about it, tho, so I figured it's still on the ToDo list
73,
LS
W5QD
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I agree with Don. Of the available choices for a computer interface in this
instance, RS-232 is probably still the best one. Or to put it more
realistically, it's the least miserable. Especially when dealing with truly
garbagey OS software like Windows... Oops, was that my outside voice
talking?
Actually, this sounds like a question that should be answered by
Heilsound. You may have a non-working microphone or you my have an
adapter that will not work with the K3.
Both the ProSet-iC and the HandiMic-iC should need bias if I recall
correctly.
The K3 provides bias on the AF pin, and
These 21 - dedicated macro keys ??
73,d e Jim KG0KP
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From: Val v...@vip.bg
To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Son of K3
Well, there is P3 - the largest display, someone could image. And the
software could bring
Lyle and Don both make excellent points regarding this USB Conversion.
IMHO their posts should be ignored at your peril. I completely agree with
Don's comments regarding the driverless nature of plain RS232.
I myself was not considering this mod myself, as I stated in my original
post. I have
But, how is this any different then using an external RS232 to USB converter
cable or whatever.
My own desire is to get rid of the funky antiquated RS232 protocol that is
troubled by line speed issues, signaling lines that aren't needed and so on.
USB offers so much more but you lose that
As we move forward with OS versions, Don touches on a difference, that
RS232 does not need a driver. Let it also be understood, that
Microsoft does NOT, repeat, DOES NOT supply USB device drivers, BY
DESIGN. A virtual RS232 port that appears in the hardware listing and
surfaces in a real RS232
Industrial devices are still, and remain, invested in RS232. Maybe
there's a reason?
This is a very surprising statement. The only RS232 interfaces I see
lingering around are from the ham radio community. So, do you mean
the ham radio industry?
And, I know that I have lived in the Apple
- Original Message -
From: Jim Miller KG0KP jimmil...@stl-online.net
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net; Val v...@vip.bg
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 8:36 AM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 keypad Ascessory
These 21 - dedicated macro keys ??
73,d e Jim KG0KP
- Original
Well, just as a single example, for bench scales which are connected
to a data processing device, see
http://www.scalesgalore.com/pindustry.htm
For those scales which have remoting as standard or an option, *some*
of them have optional USB, but ALL remotables have RS232.
RS232 very much alive
Yes Jim, If we have 21 programmable keys, we cold make 11 band keys, 5 mode
keys and 5 other macros. But I think not everybody needs all bands and
modes. That's why a narrower box with two columns of 7 keys = 14 key could
be produced too.
73 Val LZ1VB
These 21 - dedicated macro keys ??
73,d e
I was sitting down to breakfast when I looked at my email. Seems like the
questions and the answers occurred together. For all you folks looking for a
USB connection look here:
With the exception of ham radio, I seriously doubt that I could find and buy
a device that needs RS232. I understand that there might be a device that
supports RS232 for some old equipment needs. Or, even devices, as the
cited example that for some reason continues to use RS232. And, I can
Too bad the datasheet won't load (here, at least).
matt W6NIA
On Fri, 21 May 2010 10:32:48 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
I was sitting down to breakfast when I looked at my email. Seems like the
questions and the answers occurred together. For all you folks looking for a
USB connection look
However, this link works:
http://www.ftdichip.com/Documents/DataSheets/Modules/DS_DB9-USB-RS232.pdf
matt W6NIA
On Fri, 21 May 2010 07:44:14 -0700, you wrote:
Too bad the datasheet won't load (here, at least).
matt W6NIA
On Fri, 21 May 2010 10:32:48 -0400 (EDT), you wrote:
I was sitting down
A better link is at the company site.
http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/EvaluationKits/DB9-USB.htm
The documents are in a .pdf on this page.
Kevin.
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From: Kevin Rock kevinr...@earthlink.net
Sent: May 21, 2010 10:32 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Allan Duncan-3 wrote:
Perhaps they are considering a
P3 version that could interface to non-Elecraft transceivers with IF
outputs
and RS232 ports? Maybe the KPA500 is similar?
I know the P3 can be used with non-Elecraft rigs and would be surprised if
the KPA500 were not designed with
You list items where the processing is PC-based, and the devices blend
with consumer applicaitons.
Beyond that are industrial devices with embedded robotics in
applications where software absolutely cannot be changed based on
anything other than that company's own internal needs, the world of
IBM
Phil,
I would place all the devices you mentioned into the category of
consumer devices, and that is not the same as industry devices.
How many point of sale terminals do you see in stores that are using a
USB connection? Most (if not all) use RS-232. The connectors may be
either 9 pin or
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 07:43 -0700, Phil Hystad wrote:
With the exception of ham radio, I seriously doubt that I could find and buy
a device that needs RS232. I understand that there might be a device that
supports RS232 for some old equipment needs. Or, even devices, as the
cited example
Can't wait to get my P3. Wish I knew where I am on the list.
73, de Jim KG0KP
- Original Message -
From: Val v...@vip.bg
To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 9:21 AM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Fw: K3 Macro button pad
Yes Jim, If we have 21
Don
Thanks for the response.
Yes, I found it very frustrating that Heil does not document their wiring.
yes for the Proset -IC the Bias is turned on.
I tried E-mail to Heil but got no answer.
Your idea on a blocking cap could explain what I am seeing.
I think I might ring out the adapter to see
Gentlemen,
The macro key pad sounds useful but a simple box replicating the five/seven
button memory switches would be useful for contesting and general operating
I love the built in DVK and Morse memory. Whatever happens the memory
switches should be so located as to be easy to find in the
And, I know that I have lived in the Apple Mac world for a long time
but I am finding it hard to understand why USB requires custom device
drivers on Windows. I know that I do not need that on my Mac
computer. The only time I have ever needed to install a custom
driver for USB is because
I use both the Hand mic and the Heil headset and boom mic from Elecraft,
There is no noticable difference between the mic's, no settings need to be
changed in the menu's.
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why would not a macro kbd such as below work ???
putting any of the k3 commands into the macros on the keyboard
http://www.xkeys.com/xkeys/xkstick.php
$ 99
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This issue has been bounced around a lot and perhaps it is now overdone.
I do want to say that in my consumer experience the serial port has
always been a beast to work with. You constantly have to watch port
settings and the OS seems to change things all the time, causing the
device to fail to
PHIL HYSTAD SAID:
This is a very surprising statement. The only RS232 interfaces I see
lingering around are from the ham radio community. So, do you mean
the ham radio industry?
Uh - oh. Here we go again ...
Phil, if you look in the archive of a few weeks back you will find the whole
issue
Yes, and Yes. :-)
73, Eric WA6HHQ
Elecraft
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On 5/21/2010 8:01 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:
Allan Duncan-3 wrote:
Perhaps they are considering a
P3 version that could interface to non-Elecraft transceivers with IF
outputs
and RS232 ports? Maybe the KPA500 is similar?
I know the P3 can be
Guys - Let's END this thread now. :-)
73, Eric
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On 5/21/2010 9:44 AM, eric manning wrote:
PHIL HYSTAD SAID:
This is a very surprising statement. The only RS232 interfaces I see
lingering around are from the ham radio community. So, do you mean
the ham radio industry?
It seems one of the frequencies on 60 Meters may be changing. Can that be
handled via a typical firmware update?
73,
Dick - KA5KKT
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Help:
This is probably all redundant on macros through the Utility. I haven't
(don't tell anybody) used the macros yet so am not familiar with their use
during battle.
Do I have to have the Utility up and visible all the time or does it just
install the macro on your selected key and then you use
hf4me wrote:
Do I have to have the Utility up and visible all the time or does it just
install the macro on your selected key and then you use that key?
Either or both. I assign my 2 most frequently used macros (massive split
pileup and return to diversity) to PF1 and PF2, but you can
Dick,
No need for a firmware change - the K3 can tune anywhere within the 60
meter band.
You may have set up Channel Hopping on 60 meters for your K3 - see
page 40 in the manual.
Just change the frequency for the Channel Hopping memory that you used
in your K3.
73,
Don W3FPR
Edward
Apologies for taking up bandwidth but I'd like to let Dick Dievendorff
know that comcast has bounced every single message (10+) I sent him on
Tuesday from my orange.fr account about the K3 Utility beta.
'Returned to sender' messages from orange.fr only arrived this afternoon.
73, Pete Connors,
All:
The same device has been available from Saelig for almost 9
months now:
http://www.saelig.com/USBO/USSP002.htm
Lu Romero
W4LT
K3 #3192
Date: Fri, 21 May 2010 05:29:01 -0600
From: Bill VanAlstyne W5WVO w5...@cybermesa.net
To: Allan G Duncan allan.dun...@allanduncan.co.uk,
All:
Would 33 buttons be enough?
http://www.genovation.com/681.htm
Or maybe 24?
http://www.genovation.com/684.htm
We use these in a museum to play back videos from a RS232
controlled server, and they are very rugged and easy to
program. You program them using the supplied software in
Pardon me if this is OT, but it really has to be said often to
enable us to get maximum joy out of using our Elecraft
transceivers in today's world of consumer electronics (does
that make it on topic?).
yesterday evening I was calling on 17m when a lady warned me that
I was doing
Hello all,
tks for all answers.
Pardon me if this is OT, but it really has to be said often to
enable us to get maximum joy out of using our Elecraft
transceivers in today's world of consumer electronics (does
that make it on topic?).
I have already talked with our FCC and my
Yes, more than enough, but my suggestion was for boxes, made as a part of
the transceiver - the same buttons, the same paint and the same size -
either the width, or the height. Easily secured to the front 2-D fasteners.
They will make the front panel a little bit higher, or wider for those,
David Quental wrote:
People nowadays are very complicated and difficult to talk.
:-( At least that's not just a characteristic of USA people! :-)
73, Bill
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I apologize in advance, but the smartest guys I know are here.
I just received a few Ohmite thick film power resistors for an attenuator I'm
making,
rated 20 watts. They are 15mm x 10mm x 3mm. Obviously they have to be heat-sunk
(heat-sinked?) if they are going to dissipate that much power.
Hi Vic ...
My first inclination would be to go to the Ohmite website and look at the
datasheet for the resistors and search for any application notes. One or
both of these sources should address, at least in relative terms, how much
heat is typically removed via conduction through the leads vs.
Another thought, Vic ...
If the approach I suggested earlier results in a large, cumbersome or
expensive packaging job for you, the easiest thing may be to redesign the
attenuator using a larger number of lower wattage resistors. This would
distribute the heat better and could result in a
It seems as if Peter Hart, having pushed the K3 into second place after the
Perseus SDR (in his Radcom review a month ago) for close-in strong signal
performance (I was very surprised not to see that mentioned in this forum),
has now pushed it one further place down, following his review of the
Here's the Ohmite resistor guide web page:
http://www.ohmite.com/resguide.html
73,
Dave KQ3T
Craig D. Smith wrote:
Hi Vic ...
My first inclination would be to go to the Ohmite website and look at the
datasheet for the resistors and search for any application notes. One or
both of these
Phil Hystad-3 wrote:
USB offers so much more but you lose that when you have to filter it out
by converting to an RS232 device no matter where you put it.
Yes, but someone needs to write special drivers to take advantage of that
extra functionality. Not a trivial task, and it is multiplied
How do you do this? There's no hole in the middle...I can just clamp them
between a couple
... lets see ... a 10x15x3mm Ohmite thick film rated at 20 watts ...
with a little web research you get:
http://www.ohmite.com/catalog/pdf/tah.pdf
According to that data sheet, Mounting: Requires the
I just received a few Ohmite thick film power resistors for an attenuator I'm
making,
rated 20 watts. They are 15mm x 10mm x 3mm. Obviously they have to be heat-sunk
(heat-sinked?) if they are going to dissipate that much power.
FYI - Both Ohmite and Caddock make versions of these resistors
Phil,
Is this recent data? Has something changed? I have had plots of the
Caddock 50 ohm 100 watt resistors taken to 250 MHz and the return loss
indicated that they made very good attenuators and dummy loads at that
frequency - assuming they were mounted with zero length leads directly
to a
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If they are mounted against a ground-plane (which is often the case for
heat-sinking), I've found that the 100-watt resistors are not too good above
50 MHz. The 30 watt resistors are better, but the 15 watt resistors are
best thru 2-meters. I built a series of 50 ohm terminations where the
Phil,
Thanks for that information. Mine are mounted to a heat-sink culled
from a CPU cooler, and the connector is mounted to a piece of aluminum
angle also affixed to the heat sink. This assembly is standalone and
does not connect to any other ground plane. Although the heat sink may
Vic,
I would suggest that you do not clamp each resistor between a couple of
pieces of aluminum, because some types of uncapsulated thick film power
resistors are quite fragile. They may not appear to break if stressed, but
there is the risk of creating a hairline fracture across the resistor
I've used those resistors here and they are fine up to at
least 30 MHz sandwiched.
They will not crack if he uses common sense on materials.
The heatsink should be rigid and very flat, and the clamping
metal preloaded with some sort of tensioning or spring
washers. A couple split ring washers
Stephen Prior wrote:
closer reading of the article reveals
criticism in other areas of the new radio's performance, for example the
frequency disparity between its dual receivers, and the resulting effect
on
diversity reception.
That's very interesting. I predicted this before units
Hi All,
I have the following K2 bits for sale. I bought these as part of a built K2,
but am upgrading to 100w and won't be needing these.
Top Cover, with built in KAT2 (Internal ATU), KIO2 (RS-232 Serial Interface)
and KBT2-X (Internal battery Kit, not including battery). All items checked and
I did some measurements and I think the HandMic IC that I have may be
defective.
The IC element in my Proset measures 2.35 kohms.
The IC element in my new Handi mic measures 29 kohms.
Larry
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