Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51

2012-05-12 Thread Matt Murphy
I seem to have missed the 4.51 release, though I got 4.50. Would someone mind forwarding it over? Matt NQ6N On May 11, 2012, at 10:37 PM, Gary Gregory garyvk...@gmail.com wrote: *Toby, Same results here. Gary * On 12 May 2012 13:55, Toby Pennington toby...@embarqmail.com wrote: I

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51

2012-05-12 Thread David Pratt
I have also missed the 4.51, and even the 4.50 release. The only beta file I can find on the FTP site is 4.48, but 4.48 has also been officially released. Has the FTP folder for beta releases been changed? David G4DMP In a recent message, Matt Murphy m...@nq6n.com writes I seem to have missed

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 update

2012-05-12 Thread John KLim
Wayne, My Credit Card is taped to my monitor for this acquisition, PLEASE hurry. Thanks in advance. 73 ES CUL DE N3KHK John R. Klim II ARRL LM, AMSAT LM 10-10: 68135 30MDG: 1820 QSL: LoTW, Bureau, Direct, eQSL as a courtesy -Original Message- From:

[Elecraft] For Sale

2012-05-12 Thread Paul VanOveren
Heil Gold Line Mic GM-4w/ wide and narrow elements $100.00 Heil ProSet Plus Dual Headset w/ wide and narrow elements A/B Phase Reverse – $100.00 Heil PL2T Topless Boom, w/counterweight clamp, cable hides in boom - $75.00 Heil CC1-K 6’ Mic Cable adapter for Elecraft,

[Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
I have lusted after the XG-3 ever since it was released, but just noticed that it has an RS-232 port for computer connection. Why on earth not a USB port? -- 73, Pete N4ZR The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com The Reverse Beacon Network at

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread David Pratt
See many earlier posts about the relative merits of RS-232 and USB interfaces. They have been discussed many times before. If your desktop does not have a serial input, fit one. If you use a laptop or notebook computer, get a USB to RS-232 cable. 73 de David G4DMP In a recent message, Pete

[Elecraft] MCU 4.51

2012-05-12 Thread Toby Pennington
Mike, you could be correct. This morning I seem to have a little distortion in the NB which I did not notice before. It's not bad, but a little is there. I may go back to 4.50 just to check it out. Toby W4CAk I just got it tonight. I have not had much chance to compare but the

[Elecraft] P3 Major Problem

2012-05-12 Thread Dan Lynch
It appears my P3 has died after 9 months of flawless operation. Yesterday I updated the firmware to windows ver 1.12.4.26 (MCU1.16). The K3 has MCU 4.48 All worked fine for about an hour then the P3 lost everything. The P3 black screen reads: FATAL ERROR*** In: ddc_set_coef () SPAN=0 *

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51

2012-05-12 Thread drewko
I can't really tell if there is an improvement due to the new log algorithms but I really like the extended Threshold adjustment range. I typically listen to CW on a wide filter setting and used to have my AGC at Threshold 8 and Slope 0. Now I have Threshold at 15 and thinking I should flatten the

[Elecraft] RS232 vs USB yet again...

2012-05-12 Thread John Ragle
It is very rare that one can find a modern PC desktop that comes with 1 or more RS-232 serial ports, just as it is becoming more and more difficult to find stock desktops with expansion slots on the MoBo. Laptops, at least newer than my ancient IBM Thinkpad, are even less likely to be equipped

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread amsctalx
Here is a good primer on previous versions of this conversation: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-USB-port-td5753862.html#a5753984 I would rather have built-in USB, but will probably have to cope with RS-232 on hobby devices for years to come... Mike Alexander amsct...@comcast.net

Re: [Elecraft] RS232 vs USB yet again...

2012-05-12 Thread George Dubovsky
One of the still-plentiful, proven, and inexpensive Edgeport boxes (USB to 4 or 8 RS-232) would seem to obselence-proof your station. 73, geo - n4ua On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 8:48 AM, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: It is very rare that one can find a modern PC desktop that comes with 1

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread Kevin
Probably because that would put Elecraft squarely between you and the guy at Prolific or FTDI who writes the drivers. Who would get your complaint when the XG3 loses connectivity with the next service pack release of your favorite operating system? On 05/12/2012 07:04 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR

Re: [Elecraft] RS232 vs USB yet again...

2012-05-12 Thread amsctalx
Well said, John. Having designed automotive communications and datalogging equipment with RS-232, USB and EtherNet, I am amused by some of the things that I read in these USB vs. RS-232 threads. The days of Microsoft ruining USB on a monthly basis are long over, assuming they ever existed in

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Major Problem

2012-05-12 Thread Matt Zilmer
Idea: Follow the instructions on p23 of the Rev C P3 manual (lower left) to force a firmware load. This involves a few steps, but they're easy to follow. If that doesn't work, don't despair. If it's broke, Elecraft can fix it. Contact support. 73, matt W6NIA On Sat, 12 May 2012 06:34:37

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Major Problem

2012-05-12 Thread Dick Dievendorff
This is a P3 bug that I believe was resolved in the most recent P3 firmware version, 01.16. You should also upgrade to the most recent P3 Utility before installing P3 firmware version 01.16. Try power cycling the P3 just before attempting to connect the P3 Utility. 73 de Dick, K6KR.

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread Pete Smith N4ZR
Not exactly comparable to the XG-3, perhaps. I would have thought that a USB port would have advantages so far as space and weight, maybe even power consumption, in a battery powered miniature device. For those using old computers, USB port cards for the PCI bus are absolutely dirt cheap.

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread amsctalx
This is another common misconception. All of the microprocessor vendors that I am aware of have built-in USB peripherals, and often have reference drivers and driver templates. Assuming that Elecraft uses MicroChip PICs, there are few reasons to add an off-package USB peripheral. MicroChip

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 order backlog

2012-05-12 Thread wf8o
Thanks guys. I have some gear that I will sell. Once that is done, I guess I'll jump into the pool. The water feels cold only for a few minutes, metaphorically speaking. Thanks! 73 de Mike WF8O -- View this message in context:

[Elecraft] MAC Logging

2012-05-12 Thread Mike
I just saw on the RUMLog forum that Tom is considering adding rotor control if he gets enough requests. I have some RUMLog questions I'd like to discuss off-reflector, if anyone is willing. 73, Mike NF4L __ Elecraft mailing list

[Elecraft] MCU 4.51

2012-05-12 Thread Toby Pennington
Yesterday I wrote NB settings are dsp T2-4 and IF NAR 4 After playing some more with this I think that a DSP setting of T2-2 may be better as far as audio distortion is concerned. It may depend on conditions, and finding the perfect setting for all conditions may be impossible. Toby

[Elecraft] Positioning of KPA 500 with K3

2012-05-12 Thread Robert Sands
Just finished building KPA 500 SN 846 without a hitch. Great experience! I recall that the transformer field makes it less advisable to place the amplifier to the LEFT of the K3. Is this true? Handles would abut as well. May have to rearrange shack.So is it necessary to place the KPA 500 to the

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 5/12/2012 9:17 AM, Pete Smith N4ZR wrote: I would have thought that a USB port would have advantages so far as space and weight, maybe even power consumption, in a battery powered miniature device. Not so ... many microprocessor controllers contain one or two built-in serial ports. It is

[Elecraft] K3 feature request, separate monitor tx-audio levels for speakers and line-out

2012-05-12 Thread pa4la
Recording of TX audio is possible since: MCU 2.72 / DSP 1.98, 12-9-2008 Misc. Changes: ** LINE OUT INCLUDES TX AUDIO: LINE OUT (*nor* menu setting) now includes transmit sidetone and speech/data monitor audio. The monitor audio level is the same for the speakers (headphone) as for the

Re: [Elecraft] K3 feature request, separate monitor tx-audio levels for speakers and line-out

2012-05-12 Thread Jorge Diez - CX6VM
Hi Hugo, It´s also good for SO2R were you turn off monitor 73, Jorge CX6VM/CW5W -Mensaje original- De: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] En nombre de pa4la Enviado el: Sábado, 12 de Mayo de 2012 11:44 a.m. Para: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Asunto:

Re: [Elecraft] RS232 vs USB yet again...

2012-05-12 Thread John Ragle
George... You're quite correct. I have one of these, currently in storage, waiting for the day when my DELL XPS 420 shuffles off the mortal coil. Fortunately, for $20 I could install a PCI board in the XPS 420 that gives me a pair of COM ports, which I also did. My Parthian comment about

Re: [Elecraft] Positioning of KPA 500 with K3

2012-05-12 Thread Dick Dievendorff
The KPA500 transformer uses a toroid core, which reduces the external magnetic field. The P3's display is an LCD, not a CRT that might more likely be influenced by magnetic fields. Place the amplifier and P3 as you find convenient. 73 de Dick, K6KR -Original Message- From:

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
I did not mean to imply that the NB had changed from 4.50 to 4.51. My comment was from 4.48 to 4.5X. I can see how you read it differently though. I have not noticed a change in the NB from .50 to .51 Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net On 5/12/2012 6:30 AM, Toby Pennington wrote: Mike,

Re: [Elecraft] K3; Eric, Wayne, a feature for the wish list

2012-05-12 Thread N5GE
There is a very simple and time honored tradition that will solve your problem... Just say over when you are finished transmitting. Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Fri, 11 May 2012 10:44:01 -0500, Richard Fjeld rpfj...@embarqmail.com wrote: Dave, This

Re: [Elecraft] P3 Major Problem

2012-05-12 Thread Howard Stephenson
Dan, Also check to make sure the DB9 cables have not come lose on the P3 and/or K3. Howard K6IA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread amsctalx
Topic by topic: Many microprocessor controllers have...built-in serial ports Correct, and usually I2C, EtherNet, SPI and a host (pun intended) of communications peripherals. But even the beefy Motorola/FreeScale SCI (similar to a UART) ports need, in almost any implementation that I am

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
Let's end the pro/con RS-232 versus USB thread now before it takes on a life of its own ;-) As noted by others, there are many prior threads that you can search on for this discussion. The short answer for the XG3 is that it only uses a simple command set that does not require any USB specific

Re: [Elecraft] RS232 vs USB yet again...

2012-05-12 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
[thread closed] See the post I just made under a similar subject line for details. Eric List Moderator www.elecraft.com _..._ On May 12, 2012, at 7:56 AM, John Ragle tpcj1...@crocker.com wrote: George... You're quite correct. I have one of these, currently in storage, waiting for the

Re: [Elecraft] XG-3 - why RS-232

2012-05-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
The RS232 circuitry we use on the KX3, XG3, K144XV, W1, and W2 has three main benefits: (1) Current drain is near zero. (2) There's absolutely no RFI. And (3) you can use any of these devices with either a USB or RS232 port at the computer end by ordering the associated Elecraft adapter.

Re: [Elecraft] RS232 vs USB yet again...

2012-05-12 Thread Rick Johnson
One more thought. Most would be surprised to discover that there is a serial port on your motherboard on a lot of desktop computers. All you need do is purchase a cable with a DB-9 and a mounting for the back of the computer. I found the cable at TigerTronics for a couple of bux. 73, Rick

Re: [Elecraft] Positioning of KPA 500 with K3

2012-05-12 Thread N5GE
Arangement here from left to right: KPA500-P3-K3 I did not install the KPA500 handle and will remove the K3 handle next time I have it on the bench. I have another K3 that I take with me when I need it away from home. It has the handle installed. Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Ted Bryant
Was v4.51 sent to the 4.50 testers? If so, I missed it. The major difference I've noticed with 4.50 is that cw signals, especially the low level ones, now seem much cleaner. 73, Ted W4NZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net

[Elecraft] K3 AGC Version 4.51 signal measurements

2012-05-12 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi all, Like many, I haven't been able to find a decent pileup the last few days to test the version 4.51 AGC. I don't use the NR or notch function either so have concentrated on making some measurements using the XG3 as a signal generator. The figure on

[Elecraft] Elecraft SSB net announcement

2012-05-12 Thread Phillip Shepard
The weekly Elecraft SSB net will meet tomorrow (5/13/12) at 1800Z on 14.3035 MHz +/- QRM. I will be the net control station from Oregon. See you there. 73, Phil, NS7P __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Dave
I too received 4.50 but not 4.51 73 Dave wo2x Sent from my iPhone On May 12, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Ted Bryant w...@comcast.net wrote: Was v4.51 sent to the 4.50 testers? If so, I missed it. The major difference I've noticed with 4.50 is that cw signals, especially the low level ones, now

Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC Version 4.51 signal measurements

2012-05-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Cady, Fred wrote: Observations: As THR increases, the effect of SLP decreases.Changing SLP behavior as a function of THR has been done to protect the user's ears. Correct. Wayne N6KR __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
On 5/12/2012 12:17 PM, Ted Bryant wrote: Was v4.51 sent to the 4.50 testers? Apparently not all (I had to request it). I've been doing some crude testing ... with 4.51 AGC THR = 15 is approximately -73 dBm/S9 (to the best of my ability to measure with the XG3 and step attenuator). With high

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Charles Johnson
Same here. Lower level CW signals are much clearer and not nearly so mushy in crowded conditions. I received 4.50 but haven't received 4.51. Would like to try it out as well. 73, Charles, K4ZRJ On May 12, 2012, at 12:17 PM, Ted Bryant wrote: Was v4.51 sent to the 4.50 testers? If so, I

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Sebastian, W4AS
I'm not a fan of NR, however since it's back in 4.51, I decided to try it again. I thought some of the NR settings appeared to be excessive, to the point of eliminating the signal I'm trying to listen to. But then I remembered that finding the best NR setting takes time (it's not instant).

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51

2012-05-12 Thread Bill Frantz
If the adjustment allows half steps, e.g. 0, 0.5, 1, ... 8.5, 9; then you would have about as many steps and still have some vague relation to S units. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 5/12/12 at 5:43, drew...@verizon.net (drewko) wrote: Possible minor feature suggestion: I was thinking that it would

Re: [Elecraft] K2 -15Mtr birdies?

2012-05-12 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Ron, You asked if it is normal to hear birdies, the short answer is not always. Most superhet receivers, but certainly not all designs, will be affected by birdies. Unfortunately many if not most of the receivers designed for the amateur market use an open plan layout without shielding nor

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Wayne Burdick
Sebastian, The AGC threshold is something the typical operator will rarely change. We didn't make any effort to eliminate switching artifacts as you change the menu parameter, though we could if it turns out to be an issue. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 12, 2012, at 11:30 AM, Sebastian, W4AS

[Elecraft] 4.51 download location?

2012-05-12 Thread Gregg W6IZT
It has been a while since I downloaded a beta release. Where are the files located? -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of David Pratt Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2012 05:07 To: Matt Murphy Cc: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net

Re: [Elecraft] 4.51 download location?

2012-05-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Gregg, It was sent to the K3 Firmware Field Test group and to those others who requested it from Wayne. It is not beta material yet - You might call it an evaluation. There were some problems with the first pass of that code level 4.49, but it got changed twice and is now 4.51. If you

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread David Cutter
Would it help the tests to engage the pre-amp? ie make things more challenging. David G3UNA On 12/05/2012 17:22, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: On 5/12/2012 12:17 PM, Ted Bryant wrote: Was v4.51 sent to the 4.50 testers? Apparently not all (I had to request it). I've been doing some crude

Re: [Elecraft] K2 -15Mtr birdies?

2012-05-12 Thread R Thompson
Thanks Geoff, yours is the second reply I've had letting me know that there are birdies in the K2 receiver. It answers my question as to whether or not I overlooked something in the assembly or if this was a known condition. I say condition and not problem as the level and location of the

Re: [Elecraft] MCU 4.51 NB

2012-05-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
I fail to see any advantage to turning on the preamp when it is not needed. If you can hear the atmospheric noise without the preamp, leave it off (if the noise level increases when the antenna is attached, you have enough gain). By extension, if you can still hear the atmospheric noise with

Re: [Elecraft] K2 -15Mtr birdies?

2012-05-12 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ron, The K2 uses VFO frequencies above the incoming signal for bands below 15 meters, and that helps keep the birdies at bay. On 15 meters and above, the VFO is below the incoming signal which is not the greatest situation for birdies, but provides better VFO stability - read as a design

[Elecraft] Hello

2012-05-12 Thread Vic Goncharsky
this is intense you should check this out http://www.four15news.net/biz/?employment=4226934 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] KX3 order backlog

2012-05-12 Thread Steve KC8QVO
Mike, I agree with Don and others - get your order in now. In the mean time, work on selling off your other gear. Then you will have a shorter wait. If you sell off your gear and then put your order in you will probably be out longer than if you order now and get on the list. Steve, KC8QVO --

Re: [Elecraft] 4.51 download location?

2012-05-12 Thread Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft
We will have 4.51 available as a beta version on the website later tonight. 73, Eric www.elecraft.com _..._ On May 12, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Don Wilhelm w3...@embarqmail.com wrote: Gregg, It was sent to the K3 Firmware Field Test group and to those others who requested it from Wayne. It is

[Elecraft] NAQCC Sprint Wednesday night!

2012-05-12 Thread John D Raycroft
NAQCC Sprint Wednesday night! Our May sprint is this coming Wednesday evening local time (May 16, EST - 8:30-10:30PM, CST - 7:30-9:30PM, MST - 6:30-8:30PM, PST - 5:30-7:30PM), which translates as Thursday May 17, 0030-0230Z in all cases. I will refer you to the proper URL:

[Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Announcement

2012-05-12 Thread kevinr
Good Evening, Propagation has been up and down lately with our active sun tossing ions our way on a very regular basis. A CME is on the way due to give our ionosphere a glancing blow. From what I have read it will hit after both nets tomorrow. It got very warm today; all the way to

[Elecraft] [K3] Don't see Firmware on site

2012-05-12 Thread KQ8M
Was just looking on the Elecraft site and still don't see the beta firmware for download. I sure would like to give this a spin. Was it not supposed to go up tonight? Is there a hitch? Thanks and 73, Tim Herrick, KQ8M Charter Member North Coast Contesters k...@kq8m.com AR-Cluster V6

Re: [Elecraft] 4.51 download location?

2012-05-12 Thread John_N1JM
Must be very later tonight . -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/MCU-4-51-tp7552536p7554561.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: