Re: [Elecraft] Win 7 K3 and P3 Utilities

2012-08-28 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Thanks, that kind of worked. The issue only occurs now if I repeatedly pole the 
communications test on the K3 utility. I haven't gotten any further issues with 
IE9 though.
Probably still some issue, but at least the utility works the first few times. 
I'll continue looking into this.

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: Ron D'Eau Claire [r...@cobi.biz]
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 5:55 PM
To: hawley, charles j jr; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: RE: [Elecraft] Win 7 K3 and P3 Utilities

I'm not familiar with the source code, but the obvious common element of
I.E. and the Utility is that they both access the internet. I'd suspect some
of the shared program files used by both for that purpose and begin with
reinstalling I.E.

In my work I need to look at HTML as displayed in the various popular
browsers, so I have Chrome, Firefox and I.E. all running on my workstation.
Every once in a while an update to one of them will cause trouble to that
browser or others that triggers those messages. Reinstalling the last one
updated has always worked for me.

73, Ron AC7AC

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of hawley, charles j jr
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:52 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Win 7 K3 and P3 Utilities

I keep getting an intermittent This program has stopped working and MS is
looking for a solution with this utility and also with IE when I open it.
Any ideas?


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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: No RX - SWR 25 to 1

2012-08-28 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello Fred,

During the time when your reception is OFF, would be the best time to check
whether or not the LO is working, i.e. during the time when the fault
exists.  It would also be the best time to check whether the LO's output is
reaching the mixers if the LO is working.

73,

Geoff
LX2AO


On August 27, 2012 4:04 PM, Fred Carvalho wrote:

snip

 However during my tests, the reception went back on for a while. It does
 this !!! I will try to check for the LO when it returns to make sure I
 have both situtions checked.

snip









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Re: [Elecraft] KX3: No RX - SWR 25 to 1

2012-08-28 Thread Fred Carvalho
The LO is not working Geoffrey. I would like to have it back on, so I could
check in both situations. However,  when I first got the radio I remember
hearing a strong signal from the LO in my main transceiver's receiver. Now
it is not the case.

I have been well supported by Elecraft and it is been decided that the best
would be sending the radio to them.

Thanks you guys for the inputs.  Fred

2012/8/28 Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy lx...@pt.lu

 Hello Fred,

 During the time when your reception is OFF, would be the best time to check
 whether or not the LO is working, i.e. during the time when the fault
 exists.  It would also be the best time to check whether the LO's output is
 reaching the mixers if the LO is working.

 73,

 Geoff
 LX2AO


 On August 27, 2012 4:04 PM, Fred Carvalho wrote:

 snip


  However during my tests, the reception went back on for a while. It does
 this !!! I will try to check for the LO when it returns to make sure I
 have both situtions checked.


 snip












-- 
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[Elecraft] A123 news

2012-08-28 Thread Stephen Roberts
Here's the skinny on A123's

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1078364_battery-startup-a123-rescue-plan-chinese-firm-to-own-80


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[Elecraft] Year of the K2

2012-08-28 Thread Bill Harris

Anyone remember what year the K2 was introduced? I'm thinking somewhere around 
2000.
de Bill-w7kxb. .  
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Re: [Elecraft] Year of the K2

2012-08-28 Thread Matthew Zilmer
January, 1999.

Matt Zilmer
Consultant - Product Management Dept.
Magellan Navigation / MiTAC Digital Corp.
Tel: (909) 394-6052
Cell: (909) 730-6552
In status quo voluntas non sufficit


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To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Year of the K2


Anyone remember what year the K2 was introduced? I'm thinking somewhere around 
2000.
de Bill-w7kxb. .  
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Re: [Elecraft] Year of the K2

2012-08-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
Hi Bill,

We shipped the first batch of K2s in early 1999.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Bill Harris wrote:


 Anyone remember what year the K2 was introduced? I'm thinking  
 somewhere around 2000.
 de Bill-w7kxb.


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[Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Mike Goldstein
 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the K3, 
and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF audio 
filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands, 
listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I 
then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted for a 
very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the 
circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable listening level..

 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the back 
of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The SPKRS 
jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the power 
to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection from 
the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this often, 
for the first week of operations.

This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the front 
panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and the 
front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal speaker 
to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from the 
external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the 
phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the stereo plug.

The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack was 
connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K 
resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.

Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on producing 
audio in the external, or internal speaker.

I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I can 
still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the NAQP 
CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.

My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the cause) 
is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of 
load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while it 
was delivering audio..

I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the audio 
filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I encounter, and use.

Puzzling, huh? 
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[Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Mike Goldstein
 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the K3, 
and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF audio 
filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands, 
listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I 
then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted for a 
very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the 
circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable listening level..

 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the back 
of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The SPKRS 
jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the power 
to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection from 
the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this often, 
for the first week of operations.

This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the front 
panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and the 
front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal speaker 
to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from the 
external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the 
phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the stereo plug.

The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack was 
connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K 
resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.

Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on producing 
audio in the external, or internal speaker.

I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I can 
still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the NAQP 
CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.

My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the cause) 
is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of 
load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while it 
was delivering audio..

I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the audio 
filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I encounter, and use.

Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN 
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[Elecraft] Vedr: Year of the K2

2012-08-28 Thread Martin Storli - LA8OKA
When will you come up with an replacement?
An all solder kit like the K2 but wiith newer techology? :-)
Also, an cross between the KX1 and KX3, named of course KX2 with all solder 
components, CW and SSB, with built-in tuner etc :-)

Martin Storli 
LA8OKA
Oslo, Norway 
 
ARCTICPEAK's Radio pages! 
http://www.arcticpeak.com/radio.htm

Fra: Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com
Til: Bill Harris w7...@msn.com 
Kopi: elecraft@mailman.qth.net elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sendt: Tirsdag, 28. august 2012 17.55
Emne: Re: [Elecraft] Year of the K2

Hi Bill,

We shipped the first batch of K2s in early 1999.

73,
Wayne
N6KR

On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Bill Harris wrote:


 Anyone remember what year the K2 was introduced? I'm thinking  
 somewhere around 2000.
 de Bill-w7kxb.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Actually kind of scary about that choice of chip. There must be something more 
robust since we have numerous audio devices around that last when abused.

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2012, at 11:14 AM, Mike Goldstein mg...@pathcom.com wrote:

 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the K3, 
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.
 
 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF audio 
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands, 
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I 
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted for a 
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the 
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable listening level..
 
 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the back 
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The SPKRS 
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.
 
 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the power 
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection from 
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this often, 
 for the first week of operations.
 
 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the front 
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.
 
 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and the 
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal speaker 
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from the 
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the 
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the stereo plug.
 
 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack was 
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K 
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.
 
 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on producing 
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.
 
 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I can 
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the NAQP 
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.
 
 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.
 
 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the cause) 
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of 
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while it 
 was delivering audio..
 
 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the audio 
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I encounter, and use.
 
 Puzzling, huh? 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Dave Hachadorian
I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by 
using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react by 
turning down the audio.

The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate 
the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the 
speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run 
about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only 
the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still 
think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that 
circuitry that they have been unable to find.


Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, California






-Original Message- 
From: Mike Goldstein
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the 
K3,
and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF 
audio
filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I
then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted 
for a
very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable 
listening level..

 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the 
back
of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The 
SPKRS
jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the 
power
to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection 
from
the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this 
often,
for the first week of operations.

This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the 
front
panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and 
the
front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal 
speaker
to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from 
the
external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the
phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the 
stereo plug.

The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack 
was
connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.

Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on 
producing
audio in the external, or internal speaker.

I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I 
can
still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the 
NAQP
CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.

My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the 
cause)
is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of
load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while 
it
was delivering audio..

I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the 
audio
filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I 
encounter, and use.

Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
Dave,

Do you have the AF amp current-limiting mod in place? The parts for  
this mod are installed on the RF board. They've been in production for  
quite some time, and we can send them to you on request.

With the limiter installed, we've seen near-zero problems with the AF  
amp IC.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react by
 turning down the audio.

 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California






 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable
 listening level..

 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this
 often,
 for the first week of operations.

 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the
 stereo plug.

 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.

 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.

 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.

 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while
 it
 was delivering audio..

 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I
 encounter, and use.

 Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread hawley, charles j jr
Was there a serial # that included the current limiting?

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Dave,
 
 Do you have the AF amp current-limiting mod in place? The parts for  
 this mod are installed on the RF board. They've been in production for  
 quite some time, and we can send them to you on request.
 
 With the limiter installed, we've seen near-zero problems with the AF  
 amp IC.
 
 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR
 
 
 
 On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
 
 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react by
 turning down the audio.
 
 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.
 
 
 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!
 
I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.
 
At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable
 listening level..
 
The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.
 
 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this
 often,
 for the first week of operations.
 
 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.
 
 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the
 stereo plug.
 
 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.
 
 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.
 
 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.
 
 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.
 
 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while
 it
 was delivering audio..
 
 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I
 encounter, and use.
 
 Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

This modification is needed for all K3s shipped to date containing
either a Revision XB or Revision A KIO3
board. You must inspect the KIO3 board to see whether the modification
has been made. Modified boards will
include the leaded resistors shown in Figure 4. You can see the
resistor in the lower part of the figure by removing
the top cover as shown in Figure 1 and inspecting the side of the KIO3
board facing away from the rear panel.  

Also http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm states Included on
all new K3s About 12/23/08 and later.

73,

~iain / N6ML


On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM, hawley, charles j jr
c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 Was there a serial # that included the current limiting?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote:

 Dave,

 Do you have the AF amp current-limiting mod in place? The parts for
 this mod are installed on the RF board. They've been in production for
 quite some time, and we can send them to you on request.

 With the limiter installed, we've seen near-zero problems with the AF
 amp IC.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR



 On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react by
 turning down the audio.

 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California






 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable
 listening level..

The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this
 often,
 for the first week of operations.

 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the
 stereo plug.

 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.

 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.

 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.

 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while
 it
 was delivering audio..

 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I
 encounter, and use.

 Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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[Elecraft] FS: AF1 + enclosure

2012-08-28 Thread John Shadle
Paring down the station...

Elecraft AF1 Active Filter ($59.95)
W8FGU AF1 Active Filter Enclosure ($29.95)

Total new is $89.90. Your price is $76.00 + shipping.

Please contact me off list to arrange for shipping and terms.

Thanks!
-john W4PAH
Madison, WI
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
Iain,

The mod you referenced below is a very old one (470 ohm resistors on  
the KIO3). It has been in production for a long time.

The mod I was talking about is newer (2010, I believe). It involves a  
pair of very small-valued resistors in series with the AF output  
coupling capacitors. This, too, is in production.

However, I just looked on the K3 mods page, and it appears that we  
never did turn this into a mod kit. We'll get this corrected right away.

Wayne
N6KR


On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:17 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote:

 See: http://www.elecraft.com/K3/mods/AF_Output_Mod_Rev_C.pdf

 This modification is needed for all K3s shipped to date containing
 either a Revision XB or Revision A KIO3
 board. You must inspect the KIO3 board to see whether the modification
 has been made. Modified boards will
 include the leaded resistors shown in Figure 4. You can see the
 resistor in the lower part of the figure by removing
 the top cover as shown in Figure 1 and inspecting the side of the KIO3
 board facing away from the rear panel.  

 Also http://www.elecraft.com/K3/k3_app_notes.htm states Included on
 all new K3s About 12/23/08 and later.

 73,

~iain / N6ML


 On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 11:31 AM, hawley, charles j jr
 c-haw...@illinois.edu wrote:
 Was there a serial # that included the current limiting?

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:18 PM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com  
 wrote:

 Dave,

 Do you have the AF amp current-limiting mod in place? The parts for
 this mod are installed on the RF board. They've been in production  
 for
 quite some time, and we can send them to you on request.

 With the limiter installed, we've seen near-zero problems with the  
 AF
 amp IC.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR



 On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react by
 turning down the audio.

 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California






 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

   I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

   At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable
 listening level..

   The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this
 often,
 for the first week of operations.

 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the
 stereo plug.

 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.

 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.

 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.

 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while
 it
 was delivering audio..

 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio 

[Elecraft] K3-AF Output Z?

2012-08-28 Thread ac5p
Has anyone measured or know the AF output impedance or that of the internal 
stock speaker at sidetone freqs?   I'm still looking for an external speaker 
that can match or better the efficency of the stock one at 700Hz sidetone with 
60 deg. deflector.  Ditto with headphones.  
Mike, AC5P

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Dave Hachadorian
Wayne,

Do you mean the 470 ohm resistors added to the KIO3 Board?  If 
so, both radios had this mod done well before the speaker amps 
blew.

Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, California

-Original Message- 
From: Wayne Burdick
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:18 AM
To: Dave Hachadorian
Cc: Elecraft Reflector
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

Dave,

Do you have the AF amp current-limiting mod in place? The parts 
for
this mod are installed on the RF board. They've been in 
production for
quite some time, and we can send them to you on request.

With the limiter installed, we've seen near-zero problems with 
the AF
amp IC.

73,
Wayne
N6KR



On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react 
 by
 turning down the audio.

 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California






 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit. 
 I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable
 listening level..

 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio 
 connection
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this
 often,
 for the first week of operations.

 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio 
 from
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of 
 the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the
 stereo plug.

 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio 
 filter.

 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.

 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in 
 the
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as 
 well.

 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change 
 of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, 
 while
 it
 was delivering audio..

 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I
 encounter, and use.

 Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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[Elecraft] Elecraft K3 support

2012-08-28 Thread John Gibson
Dear Elecraft Friends,

Up through last weekend I had been operating my K3 #820 with MCU 4.31 and DSP 
2.72, firmware that dated from March 2011. I was content with my K3’s 
performance, and saw no reason to upgrade. 

But Reflector reports praising recent improvements in NR and NB operation 
finally persuaded me that I should update my K3. Accordingly, last Monday I 
downloaded the latest Mac K3 Utility and began the upgrade. All went well until 
the Utility tried to install the DSP files, at which point my K3 choked and 
everything stopped. I suddenly had a non-working radio and was at an impasse.

I contacted Elecraft support and soon heard from Gary Surrency. Gary, in turn, 
passed my message on to David Fleming, who has full responsibility for the Mac 
K3 Utility.

David was solicitous and extremely helpful. He pointed out that my ancient Mac 
Powerbook computer with OS 10.4.11 is too long in the tooth to run the current 
Mac K3 Utility, and he kindly sent me the latest version that my computer would 
tolerate. Following his very specific instructions, I used that older Utility 
to successfully install all of the new firmware files. My K3 now is back in 
operation with the latest firmware.

David went far beyond the call of duty to help me solve my problem. In fact, he 
sent his last e-mail message to me last evening at 10:40 p.m. (we both are on 
EDT). I consider his dedication typical of what we all have come to expect from 
Elecraft support.

Thank you David, and thank you Elecraft.

73,
John, no8v
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3 support

2012-08-28 Thread W0MU Mike Fatchett
One of the very reasons I own two K3's a P3 and a KPA 500.  The products 
rock and if you have problems the tech support is tops!

Mike W0MU

W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com
Http://www.w0mu.com

On 8/28/2012 2:15 PM, John Gibson wrote:
 Dear Elecraft Friends,

 Up through last weekend I had been operating my K3 #820 with MCU 4.31 and DSP 
 2.72, firmware that dated from March 2011. I was content with my K3’s 
 performance, and saw no reason to upgrade.

 But Reflector reports praising recent improvements in NR and NB operation 
 finally persuaded me that I should update my K3. Accordingly, last Monday I 
 downloaded the latest Mac K3 Utility and began the upgrade. All went well 
 until the Utility tried to install the DSP files, at which point my K3 choked 
 and everything stopped. I suddenly had a non-working radio and was at an 
 impasse.

 I contacted Elecraft support and soon heard from Gary Surrency. Gary, in 
 turn, passed my message on to David Fleming, who has full responsibility for 
 the Mac K3 Utility.

 David was solicitous and extremely helpful. He pointed out that my ancient 
 Mac Powerbook computer with OS 10.4.11 is too long in the tooth to run the 
 current Mac K3 Utility, and he kindly sent me the latest version that my 
 computer would tolerate. Following his very specific instructions, I used 
 that older Utility to successfully install all of the new firmware files. My 
 K3 now is back in operation with the latest firmware.

 David went far beyond the call of duty to help me solve my problem. In fact, 
 he sent his last e-mail message to me last evening at 10:40 p.m. (we both are 
 on EDT). I consider his dedication typical of what we all have come to expect 
 from Elecraft support.

 Thank you David, and thank you Elecraft.

 73,
 John, no8v
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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?

2012-08-28 Thread Fred Jensen
On 8/27/2012 8:04 PM, Mike Morrow wrote:

 I didn't realize that Novice exams were ever given at an FCC office,
 nor Technician exams either,

Yep, *all* exams were before an FCC Examiner except the Conditional 
which was a General administered by others if you were too far from the 
FCC office.  I can still remember, terrified at 13 in 1953, walking into 
the office in Los Angeles and seeing that Boehme punched tape reader 
with the speedometer dial sticking up.  It almost seemed like a 
torture device.  My seat was right next to it at the long table, it sat 
on a tin plate with a little lip around it into which the oil dripped, 
and I can almost smell it today.

The examiner, who [not making this up] was wearing a green eyeshade, 
explained the process, adjusted the speed to 5 WPM and asked two 
applicants to verify it, and then ran it for 5 min.  We needed one 
continuous minute of error-free copy -- 25 characters.  It was plain 
text including numbers period, comma, slash, and question mark.

He collected the papers, and hand-graded them one by one, saying 
nothing.  When he finished, he announced the names of those who passed, 
one was me :-), and the rest left.  He handed out the written exams, as 
I recall we had an hour but memory there is vague.  Like the code, he 
collected the papers, graded all of them, and announced who passed. 
KN6DGW arrived in the mail about 5 weeks later.

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?

2012-08-28 Thread Bob Nielsen
Fred, you forgot the step between passing the received code test and the 
written test: a sending test.  When I upgraded from Novice to General in 1953 
at that same office, one of the applicants passed on receiving but failed at 
sending.  He was so nervous that his fist was just too shaky to control the 
hand key.  

Novice testing by volunteers started around 1956 or so.

73, Bob N7XY (WN6SWE/W6SWE in the old days).

On Aug 28, 2012, at 1:31 PM, Fred Jensen k6...@foothill.net wrote:

 On 8/27/2012 8:04 PM, Mike Morrow wrote:
 
 I didn't realize that Novice exams were ever given at an FCC office,
 nor Technician exams either,
 
 Yep, *all* exams were before an FCC Examiner except the Conditional 
 which was a General administered by others if you were too far from the 
 FCC office.  I can still remember, terrified at 13 in 1953, walking into 
 the office in Los Angeles and seeing that Boehme punched tape reader 
 with the speedometer dial sticking up.  It almost seemed like a 
 torture device.  My seat was right next to it at the long table, it sat 
 on a tin plate with a little lip around it into which the oil dripped, 
 and I can almost smell it today.
 
 The examiner, who [not making this up] was wearing a green eyeshade, 
 explained the process, adjusted the speed to 5 WPM and asked two 
 applicants to verify it, and then ran it for 5 min.  We needed one 
 continuous minute of error-free copy -- 25 characters.  It was plain 
 text including numbers period, comma, slash, and question mark.
 
 He collected the papers, and hand-graded them one by one, saying 
 nothing.  When he finished, he announced the names of those who passed, 
 one was me :-), and the rest left.  He handed out the written exams, as 
 I recall we had an hour but memory there is vague.  Like the code, he 
 collected the papers, graded all of them, and announced who passed. 
 KN6DGW arrived in the mail about 5 weeks later.
 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV

Wayne,

The series resistors do not appear to be documented on the most recent
(June 2010) schematic package.  At least I can't find any on the front
panel board, mainboard, or anywhere on the KIO3.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 8/28/2012 4:07 PM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:
 Wayne,

 Do you mean the 470 ohm resistors added to the KIO3 Board?  If
 so, both radios had this mod done well before the speaker amps
 blew.

 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California

 -Original Message-
 From: Wayne Burdick
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 11:18 AM
 To: Dave Hachadorian
 Cc: Elecraft Reflector
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

 Dave,

 Do you have the AF amp current-limiting mod in place? The parts
 for
 this mod are installed on the RF board. They've been in
 production for
 quite some time, and we can send them to you on request.

 With the limiter installed, we've seen near-zero problems with
 the AF
 amp IC.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR



 On Aug 28, 2012, at 10:25 AM, Dave Hachadorian wrote:

 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react
 by
 turning down the audio.

 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.


 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California






 -Original Message-
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

  I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.

  At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.
 I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable
 listening level..

  The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.

 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio
 connection
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this
 often,
 for the first week of operations.

 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.

 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio
 from
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of
 the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the
 stereo plug.

 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio
 filter.

 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.

 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in
 the
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.

 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as
 well.

 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change
 of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms,
 while
 it
 was delivering audio..

 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I
 encounter, and use.

 Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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Re: [Elecraft] Year of the K2

2012-08-28 Thread Vic K2VCO
I was chicken to buy one of the first ones, so I waited until midsummer when 
they were 
already up to no. 709.

I didn't make that mistake with the K3!

On 8/28/2012 8:55 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Hi Bill,

 We shipped the first batch of K2s in early 1999.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

 On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Bill Harris wrote:


 Anyone remember what year the K2 was introduced? I'm thinking
 somewhere around 2000.
 de Bill-w7kxb.


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!

2012-08-28 Thread W4ATK
I have the AF Limit set at 30 and have experienced my share of crashes when 
the AGC is turned off with no damage. (Knocking on wood now!!)

Jim, W4ATK
On Aug 28, 2012, at 12:25 PM, Dave Hachadorian k...@arrl.net wrote:

 I have blown the speaker amp twice, in two different radios, by 
 using a speaker with AGC OFF.  POOF! Gone before you can react by 
 turning down the audio.
 
 The factory guys report that they have been unable to duplicate 
 the problem.  Unless you are an EXPERT solderer, replacing the 
 speaker amp chip is best done by the factory.  The job will run 
 about $125 with shipping, maybe a little less if you ship only 
 the DSP Board.  I don't use the speaker amp any more.  I still 
 think there is a transient susceptibility problem in that 
 circuitry that they have been unable to find.
 
 
 Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
 Big Bear Lake, California
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Mike Goldstein
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 9:07 AM
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Subject: [Elecraft] K3 speaker audio gone!
 
 I've lost audio from both the internal speaker in the 
 K3,
 and from the SPKRS output jack on the rear panel.
 
 At the end of the the first week of using a new NESCAF 
 audio
 filter (which drives my speaker) with the K3,  I changed bands,
 listened briefly on CW, with the NESCAF filter in the circuit.  I
 then changed to SSB, and because the NESCAF filter was adjusted 
 for a
 very narrow audio bandwidth, I decided to switch it out of the
 circuit, while the K3 was delivering audio, at a comfortable 
 listening level..
 
 The audio filter was driven from the SPKRS jack on the 
 back
 of the K3, using a stereo plug, with one channel floating.  The 
 SPKRS
 jack was CONFIGured as SPKRS = 1.
 
 A front panel toggle switch on the filter panel turns off the 
 power
 to the NESCAF filter, and re-routes the speaker audio connection 
 from
 the filter output, to the K3 output directly. I had done this 
 often,
 for the first week of operations.
 
 This time, however, I briefly saw a HI CURR indication on the 
 front
 panel of the K3, and then my speaker audio vanished.
 
 Unplugging all connections from the rear panel SPKRS jack, and 
 the
 front panel PHONES jack, no longer allows the K3's internal 
 speaker
 to produce audio.  Nothing I tried would result in any audio from 
 the
 external speaker, after connecting that speaker to either of the
 phono jacks that were tied to the rear SPKRS jack, through the 
 stereo plug.
 
 The INPUT jack on the SCAF filter (to which the K3's SPKRS jack 
 was
 connected) passes through an isolating capacitor, then a 27K
 resistor, before being connected to the chip in the audio filter.
 
 Resetting SPRKS = 2, in the  CONFIG menu, had no effect on 
 producing
 audio in the external, or internal speaker.
 
 I still have audio  at the PHONES jack on the front panel, so I 
 can
 still use the K3.  It subsequently accounted for 380 QSOs in the 
 NAQP
 CW contest, providing it usual flawless performance.
 
 I still have audio at the PHONES jack on the rear panel, as well.
 
 My theory (and Gary at Elecraft Service agrees it might be the 
 cause)
 is that the audio chip in the K3 didn't like the abrupt change of
 load impedance, from 27K (approx.) to infinity, to 8 ohms, while 
 it
 was delivering audio..
 
 I've since soldered a 15K resistor across the input jack of the 
 audio
 filter, and will do likewise for any other audio filters I 
 encounter, and use.
 
 Puzzling, huh?  73 de  VE3GFN
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[Elecraft] KX3 Production Firmware (rev 1.12) -- Misc. improvements

2012-08-28 Thread Wayne Burdick
KX3 production firmware rev 1.12 (with DSP rev 0.94) is now available.
See release notes below. This update is appropriate for all KX3 owners.

You'll need our KX3 Utility application to download and install
firmware. For full instructions, refer to our KX3 software page:

http://www.elecraft.com/KX3/KX3_software.htm

Thanks,
Wayne
N6KR

* * *
* MIN SUPPLY VOLTAGE NOW 7.5 V (was 8.0): Increases operating time  
when using an 8-cell NiMH battery pack. Recommended max power output  
is 3 W when operating from less than 9 volts, although 5 watts is  
possible in most cases.

* KEY OUT (ACC2) FOLLOWS CW DELAY SETTING: Prevents excessive  
switching of external equipment being keyed by the KX3’s KEY OUT line.  
Set desired delay using DLY switch.

* IMPROVED HANDLING OF UNINTENTIONAL KEYING ON POWER-UP: Includes two  
new error messages: ERR VOX (voice or audio-data mode VOX was  
activated) and ERR ACP (PTT was activated via the ACC2 jack with the  
given setting of the ACC2 IO menu entry). In the ERR VOX case, VOX is  
turned off. In the ERR ACP case, ACC2 IO is set to OFF.

* UP/DN MIC FUNCTIONS DISABLED IN AF DATA MODES (DATA-A and AFSK-A):  
In this case the user will have a PC audio cable, not an MH3, plugged  
in at the mic jack. Eliminates the need to change the MIC BTN menu  
setting when switching from voice to audio data modes.
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[Elecraft] FS: XG2 in W8FGU Enclosure w/power switch

2012-08-28 Thread NZ8J
Looks and works perfect $80 shipped Paypal or Postal MO. Reason for
selling, just bought a XG3.
Thanks 
Tim
NZ8J
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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?

2012-08-28 Thread Fred Jensen
On 8/28/2012 2:03 PM, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 Fred, you forgot the step between passing the received code test and
 the written test: a sending test.  When I upgraded from Novice to
 General in 1953 at that same office, one of the applicants passed on
 receiving but failed at sending.  He was so nervous that his fist was
 just too shaky to control the hand key.

Indeed, I did.  I knew I could copy reliably at around 10 WPM with my 
Elmer sending, but that mechanical monster right next to me seriously 
increased my stress.  When I found out I passed, and that thing was 
turned off, the sending test on the FCC's J-38 wasn't a problem.  I used 
it for the General about six months later too.  When I went for the 
Extra after the 2 years service was up, I took my Lionel J-36 bug.  I 
ended up sending at 25 WPM for the 2T [accidentally, long story], but 
got 20 WPM credit for the Extra that afternoon.

The nostalgia is fun [for a few minutes], but I think we in the US have 
evolved very well in the examination process.  We're a volunteer, 
hobby-oriented service ... far better we should have a volunteer 
examination force rather than paying government employees with green 
eyeshades and machines from hell to terrorize 13 yr olds. :-)

73,

Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org

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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?

2012-08-28 Thread Alan Bloom
On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 14:03 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:

 Novice testing by volunteers started around 1956 or so.

I actually took the Novice exam in an FCC office in 1968.  I lived in
Gettysburg, where the FCC's amateur licensing office was.  Probably it
was an informal arrangement with the local ham club.

Alan N1AL


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[Elecraft] KX3 Power Sense

2012-08-28 Thread N4CW
It's my understanding that the KX3 will sense the input voltage and  
adjust power output correspondingly.
That is, if I'm using internal NiMH batteries, power output will be limited 
 to 5 Watts, and if I'm powering the
KX3 from a 13.8 Volt source, power output will be allowed to go all the way 
 to 12 Watts. Right?
 
Well, here's what I'm experiencing: Let's say I've got my power set to 10  
Watts using a 13.8 Volt source and my KX3 display indicates 10W output. If I 
 turn off the KX3, unplug the 13.8 Volt source and run off batteries, my  
power out (as indicated by the KX3 display) is 5 Watts...fine! Now, if I turn 
 off the KX3, plug in the 13.8 Volt source back into the KX3, and then 
power on,  output is still at 5 Watts. I have to readjust PWR to 10 Watts to 
get 
10 Watts  out.
 
Is that the way it's supposed to work, or am I missing a setting somewhere? 
 
Bert, N4CW/K1IMI
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Power Sense

2012-08-28 Thread Matthew Zilmer
That's the way my KX3 #6 works too.  It's what I'd expect.

Firmware:  MCU 1.12, DSP 0.94

Matt Zilmer W6NIA
In status quo voluntas non sufficit

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of n...@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 3:47 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX3 Power Sense

It's my understanding that the KX3 will sense the input voltage and adjust 
power output correspondingly.
That is, if I'm using internal NiMH batteries, power output will be limited  to 
5 Watts, and if I'm powering the
KX3 from a 13.8 Volt source, power output will be allowed to go all the way  to 
12 Watts. Right?
 
Well, here's what I'm experiencing: Let's say I've got my power set to 10 Watts 
using a 13.8 Volt source and my KX3 display indicates 10W output. If I  turn 
off the KX3, unplug the 13.8 Volt source and run off batteries, my power out 
(as indicated by the KX3 display) is 5 Watts...fine! Now, if I turn  off the 
KX3, plug in the 13.8 Volt source back into the KX3, and then power on,  output 
is still at 5 Watts. I have to readjust PWR to 10 Watts to get
10 Watts  out.
 
Is that the way it's supposed to work, or am I missing a setting somewhere? 
 
Bert, N4CW/K1IMI
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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?

2012-08-28 Thread WILLIS COOKE
I suspect that the FCC office could always give the novice test, but didn't 
have many takers when you could get the test from a volunteer in the comfort of 
his or your home.  Everyone knows that the examiners would kill you and eat you 
if you failed their test.  That is why there was so much fear of the office! At 
least it seemed that way from the fear shown by otherwise grown men.
 
Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart



 From: Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net
To: Bob Nielsen n...@clearwire.net 
Cc: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?
 
On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 14:03 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:

 Novice testing by volunteers started around 1956 or so.

I actually took the Novice exam in an FCC office in 1968.  I lived in
Gettysburg, where the FCC's amateur licensing office was.  Probably it
was an informal arrangement with the local ham club.

Alan N1AL


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[Elecraft] [K3] GPIO input to switch output power with external amplifier on?

2012-08-28 Thread Thomas Horsten
Hi all,

I know that the K3 can remember a separate power level for transmitting
with an intelligent external amplifier like the KPA500, but I have an old
boat-anchor amplifier which I switch in and out with a simple switch
connected to the KEY OUT line of the K3.

Sometimes I am working barefoot on the K3 with 100W and then I decide I
need some extra power and turn on the amplifier. Then I have to turn the
drive down on the K3 to about 40W to drive the amplifier, but sometimes I
forget and the result is amplifier overdrive and burnt smell from the tubes.

It would be very nice if there was an input on the K3 that would switch to
the alternative per-band memory for drive power. It might already be there
and used for the KPA500, but I couldn't find it in the manual.

73, Thomas M0TRN
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Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?

2012-08-28 Thread Randy Moore
My Elmer gave me the Novice exam in 1961. Then a guy in a near-by town (I think 
he had to be an Extra) gave me the Conditional General test the next year. I 
don't remember taking a code test for that, but surely it was required???  

Then in 1968, just before graduating from college, I figured I knew as much 
about electronics as I ever would (I was right about that), I took the Extra 
exam at a federal building in Jackson, MS. The examiner required me to pass, in 
sequence, all of the code speed tests.  I got the impression he was expecting 
me to fail, but CW was my thing and I think I got 100% copy on all of them. I 
remember him looking up at me after grading the 20 wpm test and smiling. I was 
very proud of my Extra ticket. My call back then was WA5ALL. 

73,
Randy, KS4L




 On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 14:03 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 Novice testing by volunteers started around 1956 or so.
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Re: [Elecraft] feedback in K3

2012-08-28 Thread Bill W
You can get the recommend K3 mic or headset settings for all Heil products
off the Heil Website. 
Bill - W0BBI



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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 PA Removal

2012-08-28 Thread Bill W
Roger,
Have you checked the Elecraft website and reviewed the K3 assembly manual
that is available on-line.
It should provide all the information you need to successfully remove the PA
unit. It has quit a few illustrations for reference.
Bill-W0BBI

 



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] GPIO input to switch output power with external amplifier on?

2012-08-28 Thread Vic K2VCO
I also have suggested this. I wrote a macro which toggles the DIGOUT1 line 
which I use to 
enable/disable my 'dumb' amplifier. The macro also switches between 100w and 
65w, which is 
more or less what I use to drive the amplifier. But I would really like to have 
access to 
the per-band settings used for the KPA500.

This feature is only available if you have a KPA500 now, but it shouldn't be 
hard to make 
it accessible to everyone.

On 8/28/2012 4:41 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote:
 Hi all,

 I know that the K3 can remember a separate power level for transmitting
 with an intelligent external amplifier like the KPA500, but I have an old
 boat-anchor amplifier which I switch in and out with a simple switch
 connected to the KEY OUT line of the K3.

 Sometimes I am working barefoot on the K3 with 100W and then I decide I
 need some extra power and turn on the amplifier. Then I have to turn the
 drive down on the K3 to about 40W to drive the amplifier, but sometimes I
 forget and the result is amplifier overdrive and burnt smell from the tubes.

 It would be very nice if there was an input on the K3 that would switch to
 the alternative per-band memory for drive power. It might already be there
 and used for the KPA500, but I couldn't find it in the manual.

 73, Thomas M0TRN


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and Alpha 87A SWR

2012-08-28 Thread David Windisch
Hi, Mike et al:

If you are adventurous, and your K3 has a KAT3, you might try putting the K3
into the LCSET mode and drive the '87A slowly and gently up to max while
adjusting the KAT3 LC parameters.  Pls don't hotswitch!  I think you may see
that the sign of the Zin changes from band to band: you get better results
with Ca than Ct and vice versa.  Fred Cady's book has a good several pages
in this, iirc.  

The length of the pigtail has an effect, as well; however, since the K3s I
have will drive the '87As I have through real Alpha pigtails, without
resorting to the K3's internal tuner, I've ignored the situation.  Too many
variables, heh heh.

Purists, ymmv, thanks.

Brgds,
Dave Windisch, N3HE
Livin' the dream in Jacksonville, FL



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[Elecraft] [KNB1] Board Revision Level

2012-08-28 Thread Bob Molloy
I just want to confirm something. The instructions refer to board revision C. 
Myboard is Rev. Cr. That's not same as C, right?

Thanks.

73,
Bob KD2UJ
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Re: [Elecraft] Year of the K2

2012-08-28 Thread Robert G. Strickland
I have to believe that as long as Elecraft produces a radio that can be built 
from 
the ground up with a soldering iron - allowing for whatever specs and necessary 
SM 
components - there will be a market for it. I just hope that their business 
model 
allows for some such radio without doing the company harm. It's a real gift to 
the 
hobby and keeps the experimental dimension alive. I also think that such a 
radio/project appeases the gods and keeps the Elecraft mojo healthy and strong.

...robert

On 8/28/2012 21:24, Vic K2VCO wrote:
 I was chicken to buy one of the first ones, so I waited until midsummer when 
 they were
 already up to no. 709.

 I didn't make that mistake with the K3!

 On 8/28/2012 8:55 AM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
 Hi Bill,

 We shipped the first batch of K2s in early 1999.

 73,
 Wayne
 N6KR

 On Aug 28, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Bill Harris wrote:


 Anyone remember what year the K2 was introduced? I'm thinking
 somewhere around 2000.
 de Bill-w7kxb.



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Re: [Elecraft] [KNB1] Board Revision Level

2012-08-28 Thread Mike Morrow
Bob wrote:

 I just want to confirm something. The instructions refer to board
 revision C. Myboard is Rev. Cr. That's not same as C, right?

I don't believe there has been any revision to the PCB for the KNB1
in more than eleven years, and only one revision to the Errata sheet.

Even though the KNB1 manual mentions a revision D PCB, that has never
been issued.  The manual also states that on the revision C PCB, the
model number is mis-written as KBN1 instead of KNB1, so that's a way
to verify rev. C.

It's pretty safe to say your PCB is a revision C PCB.  Don't forget
to add the capacitor shown in the errata...it's pretty important.

73,
Mike / KK5F
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Sidetone feature request

2012-08-28 Thread drewko
Michael,

Your suggestion would make a good keyswitch macro. Except I think
there are no commands available to increment/decrement PITCH and
SHIFT. 

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 12:50:37 -0700, you wrote:

Drew, although I don't see a way for you to accomplish what you're asking, 
being able to move the pitch Freq. while still monitoring the signal.  I can 
see a way for Dale to do what he is trying to accomplish.
Dale, have you considered setting your pitch to say 500hz (for example), and 
then sliding your IF shift off freq. center by perhaps a few Hz (50 or so) and 
then centering your DX station in the middle of that modified IF center.  This 
would change the sound of his tone to 450Hz for example (or 550Hz depending on 
which way you move the IF Shift). At the same time, this would keep him right 
in the center of your IF Width filter. Yet Your pitch for transmit would still 
remain at 500 Hz. This would give you a nice difference between your TX and 
receive Tones.  In order to TX on his Zero beat freq. you may would have to do 
a SPLIT operation and then TX on the original freq where he is zero beat 
without the offset.  Here's an example below:

DX Zero beat = 14.050.000
Pitch = 500Hz
IF Shift = +50Hz (.55 on the Shift display)
VFO A Read out = 14.050.050 (DX now sounds 50HZ higher than your Pitch Freq 
but still remains ZERO Beat)
TX Split Freq  = 14.050.000

Hope this works out for you.  Best 73,

Michael
N6MQL



While trying to work D64K the other night on 20m CW with the filters
tightened down to about 100Hz around D64K (to filter out the typical
tuner-uppers, 'up'-cops, and stations calling on or nearly on
frequency)  I wished that there was a way to offset the sidetone
frequency just a bit so that it wasn't the same as the filter center
frequency.  This issue is that when operating fast QSK where the DX
station is tightly centered in the filter bandpass, my own sidetone gets
in the way of being able to hear the DX station since the frequency is
the same. If the sidetone could be offset 50 to 100 Hz above or below
the filter center frequency, this masking would no longer occur.

Any chance that this capability already exists and I just haven't
discovered it yet?

73, Dale
WA8SRA

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Re: [Elecraft] K3-AF Output Z?

2012-08-28 Thread drewko
Not sure if this is what you have in mind but I am using a MFJ-281
ClearTone speaker with my K3. It is peaky around 600-700 Hz (wish it
were a little lower...). Looks nice sitting on top of the K3 with its
matching colors: white letters on black...

73,
Drew
AF2Z


On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 13:06:52 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:

Has anyone measured or know the AF output impedance or that of the internal 
stock speaker at sidetone freqs?   I'm still looking for an external speaker 
that can match or better the efficency of the stock one at 700Hz sidetone with 
60 deg. deflector.  Ditto with headphones.  
Mike, AC5P


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Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 PA Removal

2012-08-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
This document on the Elecraft web site should provide all the detailed
instructions one needs to do the job:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KPA3%20Power%20Connector%20Replacement.pdf

73, Ron AC7AC

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3/100 PA Removal

Roger,
Have you checked the Elecraft website and reviewed the K3 assembly manual
that is available on-line.
It should provide all the information you need to successfully remove the PA
unit. It has quit a few illustrations for reference.
Bill-W0BBI

 



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[Elecraft] KX3 Audio in Problem

2012-08-28 Thread Barry LaZar
I know I'm overlooking something really obvious, but I'm having a 
problem sending audio from my laptop to my KX3. I've just received my 
cables from Elecraft that should allow my inputting of audio data in to 
the mic input for use with transmitting PSK31. What the problem is that 
when I put the cable into my laptop's line out, the transmitter is keyed.

OK what did I miss? I know I tired.

73,
Barry
K3NDM

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Audio in Problem

2012-08-28 Thread Josh Lehan
Hi!  In menu, set MIC BTN to OFF.  Otherwise, default will be PTT which you 
don't want for computer use.

Josh
KJ6PVN

Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 28, 2012, at 21:12, Barry LaZar k3...@comcast.net wrote:

 I know I'm overlooking something really obvious, but I'm having a 
 problem sending audio from my laptop to my KX3. I've just received my 
 cables from Elecraft that should allow my inputting of audio data in to 
 the mic input for use with transmitting PSK31. What the problem is that 
 when I put the cable into my laptop's line out, the transmitter is keyed.
 
 OK what did I miss? I know I tired.
 
 73,
 Barry
 K3NDM
 
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Re: [Elecraft] FCC exams

2012-08-28 Thread Bill Tubbs
The last time I visited the FCC (in San Francisco) just before the VEC program 
started, it was a nightmare. I drove a hundred miles, parked my car at a BART 
(rapid transit) station, and took the RT to downtown SF, and had an unexpected 
30 minute delay.  I walked the four blocks to the FCC office and got to the 
testing office door just as the clock hit the start time of 10:00 am. As I 
started to enter, the door was pulled shut from inside and locked. And I was 
denied entrance to the exam. I was literally almost across the threshold of the 
door. You can't imagine how PO'd I was. 

It couldn't have been a better time to be their last exam. I wanted to strangle 
the examiner. Got my Extra Class at the first VEC exam I could find. 

Bill
WK6A

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On Aug 28, 2012, at 5:03 PM, WILLIS COOKE wrco...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I suspect that the FCC office could always give the novice test, but didn't 
 have many takers when you could get the test from a volunteer in the comfort 
 of his or your home.  Everyone knows that the examiners would kill you and 
 eat you if you failed their test.  That is why there was so much fear of the 
 office! At least it seemed that way from the fear shown by otherwise grown 
 men.
  
 Willis 'Cookie' Cooke 
 K5EWJ  Trustee N5BPS, USS Cavalla, USS Stewart
 
 
 
 From: Alan Bloom n...@sonic.net
 To: Bob Nielsen n...@clearwire.net 
 Cc: Elecraft List elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
 Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K-1 4-bander suggestions?
 
 On Tue, 2012-08-28 at 14:03 -0700, Bob Nielsen wrote:
 
 Novice testing by volunteers started around 1956 or so.
 
 I actually took the Novice exam in an FCC office in 1968.  I lived in
 Gettysburg, where the FCC's amateur licensing office was.  Probably it
 was an informal arrangement with the local ham club.
 
 Alan N1AL
 
 
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