Pretty well covered by others.
One more fact to consider is the K3 is a SDR which means the firmware
can continually be improved or embellished, thus keeping the radio
from obsolescence. The promise of SDR is that it can continually
re-invent itself with new sw (firmware). With ten years
Unbelievable service. I have owned many rigs in 50 years of ham radio
but never have seen support or service like the folks at Elecraft. I
have many rigs that had more airline miles on them than I had on me
flying back and forth to the West Coast. Not with these guys, the
turnaround is very
The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3).
With all the convenience and flexibility of the K3, maybe even better.
Crucial will be the design specs.
I hope that the designspecs will be OK and that the engineers will
listen not only to the hard core contesters,
The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3).
The K3 is a SDR Radio!
73 Milverton.
From: Arie Kleingeld PA3A p...@xs4all.nl
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 6:51 AM
Subject: Re:
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The KX3 is a sdr also. but made into a field useable SDR.
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Just thinking about outside the HF spectrum...
* A transverter for the possible new MF allocation, should the
FCC finally move
* A HT that can be used by the emergency services people who are
new hams (Elecraft UIs are easier to use than most other makers
UIs.)
* Elegant radios for the
Arie Kleingeld PA3A-2 wrote
The next Elecraft rig will be a real SDR radio (not a hybrid like the K3).
With all the convenience and flexibility of the K3, maybe even better.
...but Wayne said:
Direct RF-sampling receivers, for all their technology, still lag well
behind the K3 in blocking
Hi Trevor,
I'm waiting for a KPA1000. But I'd also take a KPA1200 or KPA1500.
73,
Mike K2MK
Trevor Dunne wrote
Hi All
I have been reading the mail here for some time while I debate the
purchase of a K3 in my head. I can't help to notice the lack of subjects
covering the K3 and the lack
Hi Milverton,
The K3 has enough software and also in the filtering, but it depends
HEAVILY on the analog IF filtering.
It is a combination, that's why I call it a hybrid.
And for the rest: The next generation radio's will be full DSP, this
technology will come fast. We have already seen
I seem to run into a problem whenever I try to download a Beta version of the
KPA500 and KAT500 software. I have followed all the instructions that have been
given on the webpage but I never get it to load and have to return to the
previous version to get things back up and running.
Anyone
I hope the idea of replacement through new modules is followed. That is
where a radio built with daughter boards on a master mother board is more
amenable to hardware upgrades. The tradeoff is reliability issues with
daughter board connectors (over time).
I agree with your statement above. The
What sort of I never get it to load error messages do you get?
Dick, K6KR
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 7:38 AM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
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At Dayton it was said that the K3/0 Mini would be available in early Fall of
this year. I am wondering if there is a firm release date and when pricing
will be set and orders accepted for this rig.
Buzz
W3EMD
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If the K3/0 mini is the same thing as the K3/0, then it's listed on the K3 and
accessories order page as $695/95
If it's not the same, I'm sorry - I haven't been following the remote stuff for
the K3
73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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When I am working on a problem I never think about
I have a suggestion for Elecraft. How about designing a receiver for
the SWL crowd? They could use the receiver in the KX3 and add an AM
synchronous detector.
Regards,
WB2BJW Bob Jackson Working
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Bill,
Are you telling the Utility where you have unzipped the files in the
beta package?
73,
Don W3FPR
On 8/19/2013 10:38 AM, Bill Wiehe wrote:
I seem to run into a problem whenever I try to download a Beta version of the
KPA500 and KAT500 software. I have followed all the instructions
This morning, I turned on my K3 for the first time in two months. Everything
is OK, until I transmit (checking the SWR on my beam)
My two inline watt meters say the match is 1.2 to one. The K3 thinks it is 3.3
to 1 with or without the tuner. The tuner does click and clack to match the
(?)
Forgive me Lee, but is it wrong ANT selected - done that, been there!
73 de David, M0XDF
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On 19 Aug 2013, at 15:59, Lee Buller wrote:
I
I've also noted that some respondents post with absolutely *none* of the
original post that they are responding too. That is equally frustrating as
well. Please include at least a bit of the relevant post for those of us who
read in digest mode. Thanks.
Terry, W0FM
-Original
I just received a new K3 S/N 7604. I am noticing the front panel is running
very warm. It has the second receiver installed so that might be a reason. I
have another K3 without the second receiver and it is very cool with a reading
of 36 C for the front panel but the new one is showing 61 C.
I sent this earlier today, but it did not show up on the reflector.
This morning, I turned on my K3 for the first time in two months. Everything
is OK, until I transmit (checking the SWR on my beam)
My two inline watt meters say the match is 1.2 to one. The K3 thinks it
is 3.3 to 1 with
Giving the high quality of Elecraft products, and the phenomenal customer
service, not to mention the made in the USA stamp, I think an Elecraft
2m/440 HT would be a huge success. I know I would be one of those people
camping out in front of the store for a week just be first in line to buy
one.
61C is not very warm it is too hot to touch. How does it compare by
finger with the other unit? My K3 with sub RX regularly runs at 36 37C.
Turn the K3 off, let it cool, turn it on with the FP temp display on,
how does it compare with room temp.
Regards,
Mike VP8NO
On 19/08/2013 12:17,
On 8/19/2013 7:21 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
The K3 has enough software and also in the filtering, but it depends
HEAVILY on the analog IF filtering.
It is a combination, that's why I call it a hybrid.
Consider for a moment an SDR with no analog filtering at all.
How wide would the
Don hits the nail on the head. Compare Elecraft product support, for
example, to YaeKenCom whose only fix for product defects is a new product
two years later with new defects! Or to HP whose printers are
officially out of support before the inventory is sold off of dealer
shelves.
/Rick
Version 1.16 of XG3 firmware is now available for general release. Please
make sure you are using the most recent version of the XG3 utility which can
be found here for PC
http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/XG3_Utility_Setup_1_13_6_6.exeMac
http://www.elecraft.com/XG3/XG3UtilityOSX_1_13_6_4.zip
Steve,
What would you be willing to pay?
What would it have that current import units do not?
(perhaps a manual you can understand or a set of controls that easily
access the gazillion features?)
Let's face it the current crop of 2m/440 are almost priced to be
disposables. What market
Thanks to all who replied.
I have been give some insights to my issue.
After reviewing them I believe I need to dig deeper into
my Windows program settings.
I appreciate the help and feedback.
Thanks,
Bill- W0BBI
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To comment further on part of my past post:
To my way of thinking, if Elecraft could perfect this well, so that the
radio would never become obsolete, it would become the most practical and
popular radio of all. Hardware upgrades would still be profitable. I think
Elecraft would have a hard time
No, I do not think so because I was hearing signals on the band...I do not have
the 2nd antenna hooked to anything.
Lee
In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find
any Common
HI Steve:
Perhaps. I have a feeling, however, that an HT would not be something
that Elecraft would offer. There simply are too many competitor
products out there that do the job. For example... the $32 Baofeng
UV-5R, not to mention all the HTs made by Yaesu, Icom, Kenwood, and
Even if a K4 announcement were made today you'd likely experience an
almost unbearable waiting period before you'd actually be able to get
your hands on one. In other words, it's probably best to just go buy a
K3 and have fun in the meantime! You can always sell the K3 later to
help fund the K4...
For those using Thunderbird, it's really easy to do:
Select the part that goes with your comment, then click Reply All or
Reply List -- everything else will be eliminated automatically.
-- Lynn
On 8/18/2013 6:10 PM, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
Folks, Dennis correct. Its also list
Works this way for Mac Mail, too
David K0LUM
On Aug 19, 2013, at 12:29 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT wrote:
For those using Thunderbird, it's really easy to do:
Select the part that goes with your comment, then click Reply All or Reply
List -- everything else will be eliminated
I realize it'll never happen because of the $32 cheapies on the market. I
was more dreaming about something I know wouldn't happen. To answer another
question someone asked, I'd probably pay $400-$500 for an Elecraft HT that
I know would be much higher in quality and workmanship, have great
Rick makes an excellent point. Buy a new YaeKenCom and that radio will
be the same the day you sell it as it was on the day you bought it.
The more I think about it, the more I realize that the biggest threat
to the K3 in the future is simply running out of buttons and knobs as
features are
OK...I get it. DUH! I might be receiving on #1 but xmitting on #2. Will
check tonight
Lee
In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't
have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find
any Common Sense, ask for help from
I feel like the dummy, but I just bought and put together the DL-1 from
Elecraft, and I have no clue how to use it. Can someone help? I need step
by step instructions: ( lol
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On Aug 19, 2013, at 2:21 PM, Rick Bleda rbled...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel like the dummy, but I just bought and put together the DL-1 from
Elecraft, and I have no clue how to use it. Can someone help? I need step
by
Rick,
A dummy load is something that you connect to a transmitter which you
want to test without using an antenna.
It provides a good 50 ohm resistive load to the transmitter whereas an
antenna feedline impedance can vary all over the place (transmitters are
designed to operate into a 50 ohm
Lynn,
We don't have to worry about processorpower. The hardware is already
there and still developping. And Yes, sampling up to 6m is possible.
Apart from that, the interfacing from the machine to us humans can
certainly do better with some innovation (new ideas) as well.
73,
Arie PA3A
Op
I guess the first step is deciding what you want to do with it. They are
generally connected to the output of a transmitter in place of an antenna.
Then you can test the transmitter without causing interference to others. As
described in the manual, you can use a volt meter with it to determine
Hi Rick,
Connect your transmitter output to the BNC input of the DL-1. A dummy load
allows you to test your transmitter without sending your transmitted RF
signal into an antenna where it can cause unintentional interference to
others. The DL-1 has a 20 watt limit. You can also attach a voltmeter
Hi, Rick!
You connect the Dummy load to the antenna connector of your transmitter
using a short jumper coax connector (or a dual-male BNC adapter, if
appropriate). Now the transmitter sees a very nice antenna, approximately
50 ohm resistive impedance. You can transmit (within the power limits
Yep, that was the problem! In my haste to test the K2 after repairs, I
disconnected all optional stuff, including the RX antenna. Naturally I
forgot all about that after a couple of days (CRS?) and thustly ceated my
own problem.
Thanks for the quick response and for all of the help you provide!
On 8/19/2013 11:38 AM, Arie Kleingeld PA3A wrote:
We don't have to worry about processorpower. The hardware is already
there and still developping. And Yes, sampling up to 6m is possible.
Arie,
I understand your position.
It's just that a $20 filter can reduce the amount of processing
Mike, my K3 w/sub rx, at start up, the Front Panel is 15C and the PA temp
is 28, how does yours compare?
PaulNF8J
On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 12:02 PM, Mike Harris mike.har...@horizon.co.fkwrote:
61C is not very warm it is too hot to touch. How does it compare by
finger with the other
Eric/Wayne ...
Totally asinine idea, why enter a cheap market with a jillion competitors?
In a message dated 8/19/2013 1:30:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
elecraft-requ...@mailman.qth.net writes:
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Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2013 08:50:10 -0700
From: Stephen Selberg ke6...@gmail.com
2m/440 is a vast waste land..
Reggie K6xr
Ham Radio Since 1955
DXCC, RCC, WAZ
QRP IS KING
On Aug 19, 2013, at 11:41 AM, w0...@aol.com wrote:
Eric/Wayne ...
Totally asinine idea, why enter a cheap market with a jillion competitors?
In a message dated 8/19/2013 1:30:31 P.M. Central
Exactly,
Elecraft and Handie Talkies?
I don't think so... :)))
F5VJC
On 19 August 2013 20:41, w0...@aol.com wrote:
Eric/Wayne ...
Totally asinine idea, why enter a cheap market with a jillion competitors?
In a message dated 8/19/2013 1:30:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
Y'all are thinking too small. I expect that the next generation will be
voice operated, to be followed by a rig that won't require any input from
the Ham. Since you are the licensee, it will just text you with a summary of
the QSO's that it made on your behalf each day. But then, one day, we'll be
I could use some education here please:
What is the advantage of sampling directly off the antenna? I'm
surmising that's what is meant by real SDR vs hybrid SDR. I don't
know if 32-bit ADC's existed when the K3 was being designed, but
Elecraft settled on the hybrid superhet analog 1st
Lynn,
Some filtering ahead or some attenuation or preamp will be there or
better said: are there. What I meant is that the transceiver of the near
future will use an HF A/D converter, so direct digital sampling.
One of the first widely available RX's (at a nice price) was the perseus
RX. Lots
I must disagree. These bands are the major bands for ARES/RACES
emergency services. When I talk with South San Francisco Bay
Area ARES/RACES leaders, they have no interest in HF or any
other kind of long distance communication. Their interest is in
connecting Red Cross shelters, hospitals, 911
For KX1 users who wonder what it would look like:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZvKZ9aXCf4
73, Stan WB2LQF
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Great idea. Next would be the Elecraft twins. What a station that would be!
Blue skies,
Tom
KF5WBS
On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:09 AM, Robert Jackson wb2...@verizon.net wrote:
I have a suggestion for Elecraft. How about designing a receiver for the SWL
crowd? They could use the receiver in
Dear OMs and Yls,
DSP helps us all but the analogue side of electronics will be with us
for some time. Audio and RF are both analogue signals Amplifiers are
needed and amplifiers often benefit from some filtering.The DAC and ADC
are of course both digital and analogue.What we want
Hi,
No, no crystal filters in a pure SDR. But if they sampled after the 1st
mixer but before the roofing filter bank, maybe. If Elecraft added
demodulator software and an audio output to the P3 that's exactly what the
combination would be. Being able to display and record a significant portion
of
And, it gets more vaster and wastier as you go up in Hz from there.
PEH's iPad
On Aug 19, 2013, at 12:23 PM, Reginald J Mackey SR k...@icloud.com wrote:
2m/440 is a vast waste land..
Reggie K6xr
Ham Radio Since 1955
DXCC, RCC, WAZ
QRP IS KING
On Aug 19, 2013, at 11:41 AM,
There is already an SWL receiver available ... it is the K3-10
with the general coverage bandpass filter - just disable the low
power amplifier. It already includes an AM synchronous detector
and offers the choice of 13, 6 and 2.8 KHz first IF filters.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
On Aug 19, 2013,
And some who append silly quotations to the end of their message . Who
really reads those canned quotes and who really cares what device was used
to send the message? Or the really interesting fact that you fat fingered
your smartphone or whatever and maybe made some typos ???
But please, please
In fact about all that is included in direct conversion SDR is basic
BP filter and possibly a preamp/attenuator. Not sure on those
FUN-cube dongle receivers.
73, Ed - KL7UW
==snip==
I'm not familiar with the other Software Defined Radios out there, but
I'll bet that nearly all of them do
I'm sure Ron AC7AC's ideas were somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but think of the
possibilities, all within reach:
1. Voice operated - K3, go to 14313 USB, tune the antenna, and set output
power at 100 watts
2. Voice recognition - the K3 scans the bands looking for a SSB signal, then
detects the
You could do #5 today if you happened to have Google Glass and some (um, a
lot of) spare time. :)
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On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Don Putnick don.n...@earthlink.net wrote:
5. Heads-up display.
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Voice recognition is just so yesterday.
Think of the radio as simple set of extended senses and peripheral extensions
controlled by the autonomic nervous system ...
Grant NQ5T
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On Aug 19, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Don Putnick don.n...@earthlink.net wrote:
I'm sure Ron AC7AC's
Item .5: source 'DX countries' 'logbook' | grep 'unconfirmed' 'DX needed
Item .6:if 'callsign' true /usr/make_noise fi: exit 0
;o)
No I'm not a programmer, but you can get the gist of it. It's almost that
easy already.
Rick wa6nhc
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From: Don Putnick
I'm
I think, darn I hate that, that the correct answer is a dual band module for
the KX3. It is already the size of a HT, come on. I would give up the higher
power for a good 1-2 watt 2/440 transverter and IT would be GREAT.
Mel, K6KBE
From: w0...@aol.com
I'd say the knobs will get in the way when trying to hang it on your
belt. It would need some kind of box to protect knobs/buttons and the
display.
Oh is it waterproof or does it float?
73 de Brian/K3KO
On 8/19/2013 22:19, Mel Farrer wrote:
I think, darn I hate that, that the correct
It would be competing with the likes of this:
http://www.amazon.com/Baofeng-UV5RA-136-174-Dual-Band-Transceiver/dp/B009MAKWC0/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8qid=1376951738sr=8-2keywords=baofeng
Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
Big Bear Lake, CA
-Original Message-
From: Mel Farrer
Sent: Monday, August 19,
Thanks for all the responses. The new K3 was way out of calibration and I
think it was done by me accidentally. I recalibrated both K3’s in a 80 F deg
room. The old one with no sub running around 37 C and the new one 39 C after
over an hour powered on. 73 Mike K4PI
On 8/19/2013 2:15 PM, Don Putnick wrote:
I'm sure Ron AC7AC's ideas were somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but think
of the possibilities, all within reach:
1. Voice operated - K3, go to 14313 USB, tune the antenna, and set
output power at 100 watts
Followed by the next enhancement where the K3
End of thread.
Let's close this thread now in the interest of reducing list traffic overload.
Eric
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On Aug 19, 2013, at 2:06 PM, F5vjc foxfive@gmail.com wrote:
And some who append silly quotations to the end of their message . Who
really reads those canned quotes and
Folks, let's end the handie talkie thread. and please do not criticize the
rudely postings of others. Several posts in this thread have been inappropriate
and outside of the list guidelines.
Eric
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I just discovered by accident that my KX3 will xmit out of the ham bands. Is
this able to be locked so I can't do that? I confirmed it was really
transmitting using another radio. I didn't try voice, just a CW tune by
accident.
Typo. The second sentence should read:
And please do not rudely criticize the postings of others.
Eric
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wrote:
Folks, let's end the handie talkie thread. and please do not criticize the
rudely
I believe thats so people who do MARS work can operate.. learn to
monitor yourself thats part of being a ham...
Locking the firmware would be wrong. this is not just a ham
transceiver. its a full op transceiver..
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R.Neese
KB3VGW
Perhaps the next new thing isn#x27;t a thing but a new way to get products to
the market. Little add ons like 2meter modules will have a small incremental
revenue but not generate the dollars for developing products.
Let#x27;s say Elecraft does 10 to 12 million a year in gross sales. I
I didn't ask to be taught how to operate. I didn't criticize that it CAN
transmit out of band, or that it was a bad thing. I understand the uses for
xmitting out of band. I asked if there was a feature to lock it into ham bands
that can be OPTIONALLY enabled.
Get off your high horse.
On
I may be in the minority but I would like another high end kit that will
provide as much fun and satisfaction as the K2 gave me.
Brian KB1VBF
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On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:03 PM, george fritkin georgefrit...@yahoo.com wrote:
Perhaps the next new thing isn#x27;t a thing but a new
Since we have some time to wait, I was wondering if I could get some advice on
any available amps that could be used to boost the 1mW projected output of the
KX3's upcoming 2M module to higher power levels. I could use this on my Flex
6700 2M radio as well. Either something to drive a
Please remove my name and call from this reflector. Thank you.
Frank Meacher
KQ4FM
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Out of band means different things in each of more than a hundred countries,
so it is a lot of work to put that in firmware. Handy, but very tedious, and it
would probably delay other features.
I wouldn't mind band edge beeps myself, I am a bit absent-minded about that.
wunder
K6WRU
On Aug
That's a good idea, especially if I can set them myself.
A text warning on the display would be nice too.
-- Lynn
On 8/19/2013 8:14 PM, Walter Underwood wrote:
I wouldn't mind band edge beeps myself, I am a bit absent-minded about that.
wunder
K6WRU
right side panel is 38c,,, ( where two regulators are) and that is
with the radio somewhat enclosed in a cabinet...
At 03:13 PM 8/19/2013, Paul VanOveren wrote:
Mike, my K3 w/sub rx, at start up, the Front Panel is 15C and the PA temp
is 28, how does yours compare?
PaulNF8J
On Mon, Aug
I can appreciate that. And I would not want it to delay other features. But
to compare to other radios, most are inverted in this operating method. They
are locked into bands of their localization and require either modification or
proof of MARS license to open it.I'm not for locking
Right after a cold startup, the temperature of both the Front Panel and
the PA temperature should be close to the room ambient which should be
close to 23 degC (assuming a room temperature of 73 degF). The
temperature will increase from there.
73,
Don W3FPR
On 8/19/2013 11:28 PM, bill
Chris,
That would be 'nice', but consider that not only the band limits of the
various countries is involved, but domestically, the band limits
depend on the operator's license class. Should this be extended to
include the CW band limits for Technician hams, phone bands and CW bands
for
I really need out of band TX of KX3. In combination with the build in SWR
meter it is a great help in antenna tuning process and saves me carrying MFJ
259 in expeditions. Besides it is the only antenna SWR meter that I can use
on 160 and 80 meters in the vicinity of a powerful broadcasting
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Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] What is next from Elecraft?
I may be in the minority but I would like another high
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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Out of Band Xmit
What am I missing here. In CW, my KX3 (US Kit build) rolls the power back and
gives me the message, BND
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