Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Seiji Okumura
And why do they not have such certification? Probably I think that this is because Japanese importer and Elecraft do not apply to JARD for the examination with a certificate of K3. Oku JK1KSB - Original Message - From: Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com To:

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Robert Nobis
Jim, I assume it requires a business decision. There may not be sufficient enough customer base in Japan to warrant the cost of Elecraft getting the certification for the K3 and KX3. Bob - N7RJN On 1/6/14, 10:37 PM, Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On 1/6/2014 9:01 AM, Seiji

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Doug Turnbull
Friends, These approvals: CE, UL, FCC and JARD all cost money to obtain. There is some redundancy between them and type approvals can be used as barriers to free trade. Standards are needed but when each nation has its own then it is expensive and time consuming for a small manufacturer to

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Jörg Hochheimer, DL6ZBN
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Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Seiji Okumura
Bob-san, Of course I think so, too.hi. Oku JK1KSB - Original Message - From: Robert Nobis n7...@nobis.net To: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 5:51 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3

[Elecraft] QRQ KPA500 amp

2014-01-07 Thread Dyarnes
Mike and All, Not sure what was so humorous exactly, about Full QRQ break-in, but my reaction would be more like are you kidding me? . Full QRQ break-in says two things--Not only does it have QSK capability (the full break-in part of that phrase), but also at really high CW speeds (QRQ),

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/8/2014 3:09 AM, Doug Turnbull wrote: I assume it requires a business decision. Actually, I was looking for a factual answer, not a guess. Having been alive for 73 years and working in business for the last 40 or so, I can guess as well as the next man. :) And yes, I smell restraint

[Elecraft] Storing Macros in K3

2014-01-07 Thread K5HM
Wondering what is the best practice for saving macros? If I read the manual correctly, assigning a macro to M1-M4, then I lose the ability to use that button to store a voice message. Did I read that right? It seems to me that having the macro available on the front panel is more convenient

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread 須崎 純一
To friends coming to Japan with KX3, A Japanese agent may apply JARD Technical Standard Certification Number, however,this number is basically assigned to the equipment with high completeness after critical check. We know the firmware of KX-3 is currently revised even now. JARD can

[Elecraft] Fwd: Re: JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Jörg Hochheimer, DL6ZBN
Re-send of my previous message... a nice OM informed me that the reflector doesn't accept HTML messages, so I'm trying it again with plain text (hopefully). Sorry for any inconveniences! Vy 73 de Joerg, DL6ZBN Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical

[Elecraft] FS: K3 400 Hz, 8-Pole Filter

2014-01-07 Thread John Reilly
For sale: K3 KFL3A-400, 400 Hz, 8-Pole filter - $100. Includes USPS Priority mail shipping to the US. The filter was purchased June, 2012, and has been installed in my lightly used second K3. PayPal preferred, but check is acceptable. Please contact me directly (off list). Thanks, - 73,

[Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Jim Bennett
Hi All - On the KAT500 - what antenna port is operational when the unit is powered off? Is it the last one selected prior to power off, or does it operate like the LDG AT-600 where it always reverts to a specific antenna port (in that model, ANT2) at power off? Jim / W6JHB

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff
ANT1, ATU bypassed when power is removed. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Jan 7, 2014, at 9:58 AM, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com wrote: Hi All - On the KAT500 - what antenna port is operational when the unit is powered off? Is it the last one selected prior to power off, or does it operate like the LDG

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Jim Bennett
Thanks folks - I knew I read it in the manual at one time but couldn't find it again! Jim On Tuesday, Jan 7, 2014, at Tuesday, 10:06 AM, george fritkin wrote: Consult Page 11 of manual George, W6GF On Tuesday, January 7, 2014 9:59 AM, Jim Bennett w6...@mac.com wrote: Hi All -

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Phil Hystad
Yes, couldn't find it again ... and, I too have stumbled into that refrain many times and not just with Elecraft manuals. What would be nice are user manuals that are web-based (not PDF), that are heavily hyper-linked with cross references, side-bars, detail pages, and so on. It takes a lot

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Oliver Dröse
What's so difficult about using the search function in a PDF document? ;-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA Am 07.01.2014 19:47, schrieb Phil Hystad: Yes, couldn't find it again ... and, I too have stumbled into that refrain many times and not just with Elecraft manuals. What would be nice are user

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Rose
Phil, Google KE7X manuals - I think you'll find just what you're looking for. 73! K0PP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post:

Re: [Elecraft] Storing Macros in K3

2014-01-07 Thread Oliver Dröse
Hi Ron, correct, you'll loose the voice memories then. But you know there's PF1/PF2 for macros available on the front panel, too, right? Might save you from needing to assign to M1-M4 if 2 are enough. ;-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA Am 07.01.2014 15:48, schrieb K5HM: Wondering what is the best

[Elecraft] OT: JA certification of Elecraft rigs

2014-01-07 Thread Rose
Maybe that explains why that out of almost 2K covers and cases sold there's only been one order from JA. (;-) 73! Rose - N7HKW elecraftcov...@gmail.com __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Too many PDFs are created by scanning a printed document, and not converted to text via OCR. Those can't be searched. On 1/7/2014 10:55 AM, Oliver Dröse wrote: What's so difficult about using the search function in a PDF document? ;-) 73, Olli - DH8BQA

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Oliver Dröse
Sure. But we were talking about Elecraft PDFs here, right? They sure are searchable. ;-) Am 07.01.2014 20:15, schrieb Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT: Too many PDFs are created by scanning a printed document, and not converted to text via OCR. Those can't be searched. On 1/7/2014 10:55 AM, Oliver

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread Phil Hystad
I have all editions of the KE7X manuals (K3 and KX3) since the beginning -- these are not hyperlinked. No, that is not anywhere close to what I am suggesting. Let me describe a few features of how such a thing is put together or at least this is the kind of thing I have worked with in the

Re: [Elecraft] Storing Macros in K3

2014-01-07 Thread Elliott Lawrence
When you are in cw the M1-M4 can be assigned to cw messages. Change to SBB and they can contain voice messages. 73 Elliott WA6TLA - Original Message - From: Oliver Dröse dro...@necg.de To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2014 11:02 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft]

Re: [Elecraft] Storing Macros in K3

2014-01-07 Thread Sverre Holm (LA3ZA)
I just wrote about storing macros for the PF1 and PF2 buttons on my blog, so perhaps you will find it useful. There's a description there on how a button can reprogram itself to toggle Split and related settings on/off . See Clever K3 macro trick

[Elecraft] K3 Internal Tuner

2014-01-07 Thread WY2E
Anyone know how to read the settings of the K3 internal ATU after a tune cycle. I want to compare to my KAT500. TNX 73 Fred, WY2E __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] KAT500 Question

2014-01-07 Thread amsctalx
Hyperlinking has its own limits; I have seen documents with so many hyperlinks so as to be difficult to read. Searching, on the other hand, doesn't require the author to try to anticipate all possible document uses and provides a cleaner interface. I opened Search in Acrobat 9 (name varies

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Tuner

2014-01-07 Thread Dick Dievendorff
It’s described in the KAT3 menu entry on page 56 of the K3 Owner’s Manual. You can set L, C, and Cs / Ct, and you can read the values the ATU has currently, for example right after it has completed tuning. 73 de Dick, K6KR On Jan 7, 2014, at 12:14 PM, WY2E w...@arrl.net wrote: Anyone know

Re: [Elecraft] K3 Internal Tuner

2014-01-07 Thread Cady, Fred
Hi Fred Reading the L and C ATU Values 1. Select LC SEt in the CONFIG menu. 2. Tap MENU to exit. 3. Tap ATU TUNE; VFO A shows the capacitance (CA indicates the capacitance on the antenna side, Ct on the transmitter side). VFO B shows the inductance. 4. Tap MENU to exit.

Re: [Elecraft] Dual Pass Band

2014-01-07 Thread ab2tc
Hi, I'll chance another entry on this topic. I am sure that those who are experts in statistical communications theory can prove analytically that the optimal filter ahead of the decoder in the presence of plain white Gaussian noise is some form of Gaussian response with bandwidth slightly wider

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Jim Brown
On 1/7/2014 6:53 AM, 須崎 純一 wrote: JARD can never accept such a moving spec.machine. Not sure I follow that logic. But they can certify an FT1000MP, which generates nasty clicks, and a Mark V, which generates nasty clicks. And a 7600 which generates nasty clicks. 73, Jim K9YC

Re: [Elecraft] Storing Macros in K3

2014-01-07 Thread Oliver Dröse
Sure. As long as you do not overwrite them with macros. ;-) Yes, you can then assign M1-M4 to CW/voice messages again but then your macros are gone again. Doesn't solve the original problem. It's either or. But of course you can mix them, i.e. M1+M2 for macros and M3+M4 for CW/voice

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread David Withers
Pretty standard restraint of trade, similar in other industries. Not much to do, just the way it is in Japan. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID Jim Brown j...@audiosystemsgroup.com wrote: On 1/7/2014 6:53 AM, 須崎 純一 wrote: JARD can never accept such a moving spec.machine. Not sure I

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Robert Nobis
Jim, I suspect the issue is that Elecraft simply has not pursued getting the certification. Possibly the ROI doesn’t justify doing this. At any rate, there is a procedure for an individual to get a temporary certification for use while traveling in Japan. Bob - N7RJN On 1/7/14, 2:08 PM,

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2014-01-07 Thread ai2n
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Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Bill Frantz
This situation might contribute to the reasons we don't get continuous product improvement on our Japanese radios the way we do from Elecraft. Cheers - Bill, AE6JV On 1/7/14 at 6:53 AM, ji1...@jarl.com wrote: We know the firmware of KX-3 is currently revised even now. JARD can never accept

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Walter Underwood
Radios in the US need FCC approval, too. I don't think this is all that different. --wunder On Jan 7, 2014, at 6:28 PM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote: This situation might contribute to the reasons we don't get continuous product improvement on our Japanese radios the way we do

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
That and if your only goal as a company is to make money it doesn't pay to give away upgrades. If you are going to do an upgrade, make a new radio with new features and sell it. If your goal is to produce great stuff, take care of your customers (get referrals) and make a living, you do it

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Bill Frantz
But Elecraft doesn't have to get a new type approval from the FCC every time they change the firmware. The post I quoted (included below) indicates that the Japanese manufacturers need to get approval from JARD whenever they want to change the firmware. Having the expense of jumping thru a

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Walter Underwood
One Japanese amateur had the opinion that firmware upgrades would require recertification. Perhaps that is true, but it also might be just as accurate as my opinion about what the FCC would do. If I were a betting man, I would not bet on my opinion about the FCC. Basically, let's not jump to

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Keith Onishi
Having JARD Technical Standard Certification Number is not mandatory for ham radio transmitters. The transmitter without JARD Technical Standard Certification Number can get individually certified for the licensed amateur who has applied the certification to add the transmitter into his

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
We've all got our copies of 47 CFR part 97 handy, right? Every FCC licensee is supposed to have a copy of the rules for their radio service... As best I can tell, in the U.S. there is no requirement for type acceptance for amateur radio transmitters, and as licensees in the Amateur Radio

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Hi Curr Warning

2014-01-07 Thread Tighe Kuykendall
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[Elecraft] KX3 Construction

2014-01-07 Thread Eugene Balinski
All, I am finally getting around to assembling my KX3. If I read the invoice correctly, the Serno is 888. I know that there have been a number of ECO's for various issues. Is there some place that they are all collected such that I can order the necessary parts at once ? How about

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Keith Onishi
Transmitters do not require type acceptance or certification. We as licensed amateur radio operators are free to build or modify our transmitters at will. Here in Japan, it is different story. All transmitters must be certified by either JARD Technical Standard Certification Number or

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3 orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
George, Please feel free to cite the appropriate section from Title 47. I may have missed something. 73 -- Lynn On 1/7/2014 9:41 PM, george fritkin wrote: Lynn, I think you need a little brushing-up on the FCC regs George, W6GF

Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Hi Curr Warning

2014-01-07 Thread Tighe Kuykendall
Sorry about the empty message. Not sure what happened. Wanted to close the loop on this. Thanks to those that responded off-list. I was running MCU 1.57 firmware which is where I was seeing high current warnings. I hadn't noticed the changes in MCU 1.61 but just upgraded to MCU 1.79 and

[Elecraft] KXPA100 Shipping Status Update

2014-01-07 Thread Kevin Luxford
Hi Wayne and Eric, The KPA100 shipping status appears not to have been updated since around mid November 2013. What is the current status, please? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help:

Re: [Elecraft] JARD Technical Standard Certification Number for K3orK3X

2014-01-07 Thread Seiji Okumura
It is not necessary to take a new certification number at the time of renewal of all the firmware in Japan. The certification number did not change even at the time of firmware renewal of FTDX-9000D I have . When a technical change is added , and when the quality and mode of an electric wave